New Webmail.
Spencer
I've been told to "use the filters within the webmail."
My filter file is over 1,000 lines long !!!
I can't believe Clara would knacker a really useful mail filter program like
this !
Anybody know anyway to manually edit (i.e. copy, & paste) mail filters
within the new webmail system ?
anne
> It appears like Clara are removing all direct access to mail filters.
>
> within the new webmail system ?
>
I wish, and will be watching this thread, more in hope than expectation!
Also, some tool tips on the individual filter line icons would be useful
- there's what looks like a pencil, and up and down arrows, but no
indication as to what they might do, so when combined with the lack of
direct access, that makes two bits of lost functionality.
I reserve judgement as to whether there are any gains until I've used it
for a while.
Tim Hall
The filters seem to be broken.
I have the following in my "old" filter list:
If the X-Envelope-To header contains 'myuse...@claranet.com' then
delete the e-mail
If the Cc header is 'myuse...@clara.co.uk' then deliver the mail
into my inbox
If the To header is
'[^m][^y][^u][^s][^e][^r][^n][^a][^m][^e][^@][^c][^l][^a][^r][^a][^.][^c][^o][^.][^u][^k]'
then delete the e-mail
If the X-Sender-Verification-Failed header contains '.' then delete
the e-mail
I'm now getting spam where I'm on the Bcc: as myuse...@claranet.com
There dosn't seem to be an option in the pulldown box to make a filter
for Bcc: either.
--
Tim
Stephen Howard
<tim...@nospamtoday.clara.co.uk> wrote:
Seems to me that all the features I signed up ( and paid ) for are
being slowly eroded....logging...sms alerts...text filter
management...
Regards,
<snip>.
>>
>The filters seem to be broken.
>
>I have the following in my "old" filter list:
>
>
>
>If the X-Envelope-To header contains 'myuse...@claranet.com' then
>delete the e-mail
>
>If the Cc header is 'myuse...@clara.co.uk' then deliver the mail
>into my inbox
>
>If the To header is
>'[^m][^y][^u][^s][^e][^r][^n][^a][^m][^e][^@][^c][^l][^a][^r][^a][^.][^c][^o][^.][^u][^k]'
>then delete the e-mail
>
>If the X-Sender-Verification-Failed header contains '.' then delete
>the e-mail
>
>
>I'm now getting spam where I'm on the Bcc: as myuse...@claranet.com
>
>There dosn't seem to be an option in the pulldown box to make a filter
>for Bcc: either.
--
Steve ( out in the sticks )
Email: Take time to reply: timefrom_usenet{at}gmx.net
Spencer
> being slowly eroded....logging...sms alerts...text filter
> management...
Doesn't anybody from ClaraNet ever read this Claranet Support newsgroup ?
I actually e-mail's Steve R (he never got back to me) but then again Tagadab
is still part of the Clara group !
I find it hard to believe he's happy about his mail filters being
effectively kneecapped!
Stephen Howard
wrote:
>> Seems to me that all the features I signed up ( and paid ) for are
>> being slowly eroded....logging...sms alerts...text filter
>> management...
>
>Doesn't anybody from ClaraNet ever read this Claranet Support newsgroup ?
I doubt it.
>
>I actually e-mail's Steve R (he never got back to me) but then again Tagadab
>is still part of the Clara group !
>
>I find it hard to believe he's happy about his mail filters being
>effectively kneecapped!
That's a polite way of saying they're completely fucked up.
I mean, c'mon, a hoster with a mail service that doesn't provide logs
or a detailed help page on their webmail filters - let alone a
text-based entry system?
Time to move on, I think.
Regards,
Spencer
> That's a polite way of saying they're completely fucked up.
> I mean, c'mon, a hoster with a mail service that doesn't provide logs
> or a detailed help page on their webmail filters - let alone a
> text-based entry system?
>
> Time to move on, I think.
>
Not really 'moving on' more like 'forced out' !
Who has mail filters akin to Steve R's ?
Kevin Reilly
> Not really 'moving on' more like 'forced out' !
I'm reluctantly forced to agree. ClaraNet just ain't what it used to be, at
least for individual users. Perhaps their enterprise solutions are more
impressive but their consumer packages are dying the death of a thousand
cuts. I was using a ClaraNet Mail account mainly as a backup but I did used
to run all my e-mail through there because of the great filters. Alas no more.
I remain with Clara partly in the hope that things might get better again
but mainly because it's only costing me a tenner a year and I'm too
apathetic and nostalgic to cancel the subscription.
> Who has mail filters akin to Steve R's ?
Fastmail uses something called Sieve which is at least as powerful as
Steve's filters, much more so if you delve deep within its capabilities.
It's not as user-friendly as the old Clara filters, being more dependent on
regular expressions for its more powerful functions, but anyone happy with
the Clara filters shouldn't have too much trouble with it.
With the default Fastmail settings its accessible only through a web-based
interface (one that leaves Clara's current effort standing, BTW) but a few
mouse clicks enables it in its full cut-and-paste glory.
Note that Fastmail are an IMAP / webmail ESP not an ISP so their users also
need a) an independent means of connecting to the internet and b)
confidence enough to leave all their e-mail "in the cloud" or work out a
mirroring solution.
Disclaimer: other ESPs and ISPs use Sieve; it's not unique to Fastmail. I'm
just a satisfied customer of the latter with no experience of using it
elsewhere.
--
Kev
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General Bernard W. Rogers
anne
> On 13/09/2009 21:00, Spencer wrote:
>
>
I was using a ClaraNet Mail account mainly as a backup
> but I did used to run all my e-mail through there because of the great
> filters. Alas no more.
>
> I remain with Clara partly in the hope that things might get better
> again but mainly because it's only costing me a tenner a year and I'm
> too apathetic and nostalgic to cancel the subscription.
Likewise. Clara is no longer my ISP, but I too hung onto the mail
address because it was cheap, easier than changing, and I was *really*
happy with the filtering.
>
>> Who has mail filters akin to Steve R's ?
> Fastmail uses something called Sieve
Isn't the new clara system based on sieve? I know nothing about it,
but notice that some of the webmail filter icons include 'sieveadd' in
the URL when you hover over them.
Just a matter now of getting a recommendation for a replacement.
Spencer
>>filters. Alas no more.
>>
>> I remain with Clara partly in the hope that things might get better again
>> but mainly because it's only costing me a tenner a year and I'm too
>> apathetic and nostalgic to cancel the subscription.
>
> Likewise. Clara is no longer my ISP, but I too hung onto the mail
> address because it was cheap, easier than changing, and I was *really*
> happy with the filtering.
>>
>
I received an e-mail from Steve R today !!!
He said would look into it, & he didn't know about the new webmail system.
As others have said - I used to run all our business e-mails through my
ClaraNet mail box, & use the filtering to divert them off to the correct
place, not to mention a couple of domains clara are hosting, & a couple of
broadbands as well.
I did look at fastmail recently, & the 'raw sieve looked a little bit
daunting.
My main mailbox has been 'upgraded' today, & they 'they have completely
knackered lots of filter lines, any line with Redirect in it has been
deleted.