Re: How are you connected to the Clan Grant in Canada?

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Mike Grant

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Feb 2, 2013, 9:39:57 PM2/2/13
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My name is Mike Grant (Michael Louis) Grant.
I am member of the McRobbie of Trois-Rivieres cadet, descended from William Grant of Trois-Rivieres.
My father was Louis Seymour Grant (born Winnipeg MB; died Vancouver, BC); grandfather was Richard Seymour Grant (born PEI; died Vancouver, BC); great grandfather was Louis Joseph Grant (born Fort Hall, ID; died Winnipeg, MB [I think]; great, great grandfather was Stanislaus Richard Grant (born Fort Edmonton, AB; died Soda Spring, ID); and great great great grandfather was Captain Richard Grant chief trader Fort Hall Idaho (born Trois-Rivieres Quebec, died Walla Walla, WA).
My son is Robert Richard Grant and his two sons are Henry and Charles. My daughter is Elspeth Gillian Grant-Smith and her two sons are Jordan and Brendan.


On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:29:30 PM UTC-8, Penny Grant wrote:
If you are a Canadian with the surname "Grant,"  let the rest of us know how you think you are connected to the Grants. For example, if you know your grandfather's name, where he lived, and his approximate date of death - please post it. Maybe you'll find that you have lots of cousins and kinsmen out there that you never knew about. This is our first discussion topic and we hope it will be interesting. Thank you!

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My great grandmother, Margaret Katherine Grant (Rankin) lived in Maine but came from French River, Pictou county Nova Scotia. Her parents names were James and Mary Grant (Fraser) from French River Nova Scotia. James Grant's parents were Paul and Mary Grant (McDonald) from French River Nova Scotia. I was hoping to discover how and when my ancestors came to Canada.

Gina Grant

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Jul 25, 2013, 11:51:40 AM7/25/13
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My name is Gina Grant.  Currently I live in Watertown, South Dakota.  I am hoping to find more info and break through a brick wall I have come upon.

Here is my Grant story: Our Grants (through story) came over from England.  During the revolutionary war they sided with the British which in turn gave them land somewhere in Canada where they settled.  My dad said there is a place somewhere in Canada called "Grant's Pass" (not Grant's Pass, OR) that was the family land.  My great-grandfather, Lawrence Bethune Grant b. 1866 in Ontario and d. 1912 (father John A Grant birth and death unknown and mother Mary Bethune b. 1841 d. 1880) came down from Canada to Clear Lake, South Dakota.  He was a buggy maker.  He was married at the time to a woman only know to us as "Em".  She soon died of some sickness and Lawrence married her nurse, Nettie Allen (my great-grandmother).  Lawrence developed diabetes and wanted to see his brother who lived in California.  He packed up my pregnant great grandmother and 7 children and headed to California where he then died.  

After browsing some Grant sites, I have not found any info about Lawrence or his parents.  I know that many of the Grants came over from Scotland and I am not 100% sure of where we came from :)  If anyone would have any info, that would be great!  I also have some pictures of Lawrence,

Gina Grant


Anita Steele

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Aug 24, 2013, 2:59:48 AM8/24/13
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Gina,
I'm not familiar with your Grant history, though I have somewhere seen the Bethune surname connected with Grant. Check out genealogy site, 'genforum'.  Also, you may find it helpful if there is a surviving Grant male will join the Grant DNA project; it may prove a productive starting point for your history.

Anita Steele

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Aug 24, 2013, 3:04:37 AM8/24/13
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Have you checked out the genealogy site, "genforum"?
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Barbara Gressel

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Oct 3, 2013, 8:24:21 PM10/3/13
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Hi Penny,
My family are Grants but we have been in the US since 1884.  Here is my family line:
Peter Grant  from Scotland I think is UEL
John Grant from Scotland I think is UEL (I am working on my submission to the UELAC).
Peter Grant from Summerstown, Ontario, Canada
James Wright Grant from Summerstown, Ontario, Canada
James Wright Grant from Savannah Missouri
Thelma Jeanette Grant from Auburn, Nebraska
Me:  Barbara Sue Clark
Peter came to America in 1774 and was either from Glenmorriston or Stratspey.  He lived on Sir John Johnson's land in the Mohawk Valley of New York.  He served in the KRRNY and received land on the Front of Charlottenburgh.  His son John eventually received his lot (lot 10, 1st Conc) and lived for many years.His oldest son, Peter Grant married Ellen Wright and bought a lot that was very close (lot 16, 1st Conc).  Peter died very young.  In his will, he seemed to know that he would be dying soon, making plans for his youngest children.  Peter's son James Wright Grant became an adult and ended up being the head of the household and married Adelaide Maud Summers.  In 1884 he sold his Canadian property and moved to the US.  Adeleaide died and he remarried Gertrude Richardson.  Ellen Wright, James Wright Grant, Adelaide Grant, and Gertrude Grant are all buried in the Savannah, MO cemetery.  His son, James Wright Grant married Ethel Kelly and moved to Auburn, NE.  James and Ethel were the parents of my mother, Jeanette Grant.  

My cousin, John Grant has had his DNA tested and he is in Group 11 on the Clan Grant website in the UK.  I would urge all Grants to have their DNA tested.  The DNA has been sorted into many sub-groups.  If you have your genealogical history, we will possibly find that we are related or you will find the group with which you will closely match.

If anyone knows about about my family, I would love to correspond.

Thank you so much.

Sincerely,
Barbara Gressl

Ken Fluto

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Jan 9, 2014, 2:03:03 PM1/9/14
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Hi. I am with Grants Old Mill Museum in Winnipeg. We have two priorities, to present the history of the fur trade and Cuthbert Grants involvement and to demonstrate how grain is ground into flour using a water wheel and mill stones. The mill is a replica of the one Cuthbert Grant built in 1829 to help feed his Metis people. You can follow our activities on www.grantsoldmill.ca.

Kathryn Brolliar

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Jan 12, 2014, 4:22:23 PM1/12/14
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We met  this last summer in Pocatello - Had a wonderful time- My son ,his wife and I are planning a trip to Scotland in august- Please let me know if there is a reunion planned there - we are going and would like to get our travel plans arranged- So if there is a reunion hopefully we can  connect.  Please Advise Kathryn

Penny Grant

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Jan 15, 2014, 8:56:56 PM1/15/14
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HI Kathryn

Thanks for joining clangrantcanada Google Group. I understand that there is a Grant Reunion in Scotland in August 2014 but I don't know the details. You may find something by going to http://www.clangrant.org/  - the UK Grant Society site. I am now going to try to start a new Topic and hope people will put up what they know for others to share.

jhoguecorrigan

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Jan 19, 2014, 6:59:19 PM1/19/14
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I am not a Grant descendant, but when I read the book A son of the fur trade: the memoirs of Johnny Grant and saw Anita’s genealogical charts I realized that three of Johnny's children have connections to my ancestors!

 

Mary Agnes Grant married William DEASE, Jr. (s/o William DEASE, Sr. and Marguerite GENTHON).  William was a first cousin of my great grandmother Philomene MCMILLAN (d/o Margaret DEASE and William MCMILLAN).

 

Richard Grant married Rosalie HOGUE (d/o Joseph HOGUE and Pelagie TURCOTTE).  Rosalie was a first cousin of my grandfather Thomas HOGUE (s/o Thomas HOGUE and Philomene MCMILLAN).

 

William Grant married Auxilia BERNARDIN (d/o Joseph BERNARDIN and Marie PELOQUIN).  William was a first cousin of my great grandfather Napoleon GIRARDIN (s/o Marie Louise BERNARDIN and Paul GIRARDIN).

THOMAS dease

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Feb 11, 2014, 6:47:29 PM2/11/14
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i am a dease late granfather william dease??

Doug Grant

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Apr 15, 2014, 10:57:17 PM4/15/14
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Still researching our family tree, but this is what I have so far:

 

Myself - Douglas Allan

Father - Ivan Allen Grant - B Sept. 24th 1912, Wellwood, Manitoba - D - Dec 23rd, 1980 Manitoba, Canada

GF- Allen James Grant - B March 10th 1882 Granton, Ontario- D Nov 29, 1910, Wellwood, Manitoba, Canada

GG - George W Grant - B Aug 18th, 1852, Granton, Ontario, Canada -  D - Dec 30th, 1940  Moose Jaw Saskatewan, Canada

GGG - Alexander (Sandy) Grant - B May 11th 1808, Inverurie, Aberdeenshire Scotland, D - Dec 26th 1877 Granton, Ontario Canada (one of 10 siblings)

GGGG -John Grant - B 1768 Drumblade, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, D - May 13th 1861, Granton, Ontario, Canada - Married Elspeth Jane Simson or Simpson B Oct 10th 1779, Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

GGGGG - Peter Grant (perhaps)

 

Would like to know GGGGG name for sure (Peter?) and also would like to find out the names of any siblings of John Grant, but not sure where to look.

Darkwolf34100

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My name is Zachary Randle and my grandmother is a Grant Ruth Kathryn Grant

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Hello my name is Bonnie Grant Cymbalista.. I am the 3rd great grand daughter of Robert Grant (b: abt 1745) and Isabel Forsyth (1757-1854).  Their son Roderick Grant (1786-1875) and his wife Elizabeth McKay (1803-1875) left Dornoch SutherlandShire in 1832 with 3 children (Alexander, Robert, & William) to Eldon Station in Victoria County Ontario Canada.   Roderick, was given a land patent for 100 acres  in Eldon township. I would love to connect with other relatives from around the world. Thank you.

Elaine Trackl nee Stewart

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Dec 31, 2013, 12:42:15 PM12/31/13
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Hi,
My name is Elaine Trackl nee Stewart I live with my husband Ron in Summerland British Columbia Canada.
This site is great.. very helpful in helping my search for my family roots.. will be sure to share with my cousins who are also interested.
 
Here is my direct lineage:
 
John Grant & Jean Forbes in Inverlochie, Scotland
 William Grant of Trois-Rivieres & Marguerite Fafard dit LaFramboise (Wm. was Sr. partner of NWC, Grant, Campion & Co.)
 Richard Grant & (1) Marie Anne Breland (This Richard Grant became HBC Chief Trader of Fort Hall, ID)
John Francis Grant Born January 7/1831 St. Boniface Manitoba& Clothilde Grant nee Bruneau Born January 08/1850 St. Boniface Manitoba
Maria Nutt nee Grant born October 9/1873, died March 25 1938 married Frank Nutt Feb 5, 1894 
Irene Blanche Ardies Nee Nutt (Born January 15 1907 died 1994 Penticton B.C. )

Constance Catherine Stewart Nee Ardies (Born January 11/1935 died Apr 2, 2010)

Elaine Trackl Nee Stewart (Born May 11/1961)

My son is Brian Ronald Trackl

 

 
 

Cindy Robichaud

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My name is Cindy Robichaud and I am from Chatham, Ontario. My 2x great grandfather was Ewen Grant born 1851 Aberdeenshire, Scotland (Inverness) He immigrated to Canada and in the 1881 Census he is living in Tilbury East Township, Kent County, Ontario in the household of James Kennedy and his daughter Ester. In 1882, Ewen and Ester married in Chatham, Kent County, Ontario. On the marriage registration, Ewen parents are listed as Robert and Jane. Ewen and Ester had 7 children; Albert (Paddy), Robert (Bob), Alvin, John (Jack), Percy, Christine and Edith (Peggy). I have an uncle who has agreed to take a DNA test. I am also planning a trip to Scotland May 2016 and hope to visit the family history society and Archives in Inverness. I have yet to make the connection back to Scotland but am hoping to connect with anyone with info or family links. Thank you. Cindyr

James Grant

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Mar 7, 2016, 1:12:22 PM3/7/16
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"My name s James Colin Grant from Antigonish N.S.. The first Grant of my clan, "John" arrived in Pictou N.S. on June 8th, 1801 on the ship Sarah from Fort William. He was born in 1767 in Strathglass Scotland  and married Catherine Fraser from Strathglass, Inverness-shire and sprung from John Mord Grant, natural son of John Grant, ninth Laird of Fueuchie.  I'm Generation 5 in Canada. Sorry but I don't think I can help you Cindy. Jim 

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Elaine Buonsante

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Aug 16, 2016, 12:25:47 AM8/16/16
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Hello Mike,

My grandmother's name was Clara Ellen Grant who married Charles Benoit de Paul Nov 6, 1909. I have confirmation from St Mary's Cathedral, Winnipeg, that the parents of Clara were named Louis Wm Grant (born in US) & Annie Steele (born in PEI). Older siblings of Clara are listed as Richard Joseph Grant (born Mar 8, 1876, bapt Mar 15, 1876 in Summerside PEI) and Mary Alice (born Oct 13, 1877,bapt Oct 21, 1877 in Summerside PEI). Clara Ellen Grant was born in Winnipeg Aug 10, 1883. PROBLEM: I was hoping you might be able to clarify an issue around Richard Joseph Grant. In Winnipeg census he is listed as follows: 1881 & 1901, Richard S Grant; 1891, Richard Grant. In 1902 a Richard Seymour Grant married Lillian May Motta. Richard Seymour Grant's Death Certificate lists his birth date,parents' names and place of birth identical to Richard Joseph Grant. So I am confused as to whether Richard Joseph & Richard Seymour are the same person or two different people. Can you shed any light?
Mary Alice Grant-B & Bap 3.JPG
Richard Joseph Grant-Birth & Bapt Cert.JPG
Richard Seymour Grant-D.JPG
Richard Seymour Grant-memorial.JPG

bonni...@charter.net

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Hi All, Is it possible that the issue of Richard Joseph/Richard Seymour Grant answer could be that Richard Seymour was his given name and Richard Joseph was his baptismal name?
 
Bonnie Lingle
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Cindy Robichaud

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Aug 18, 2016, 2:39:54 PM8/18/16
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Hi all,

I just submitted my uncles DNA. Hoping the results will point me in the right direction and hopefully I will make some connections. I'm still learning about the possibilities of DNA. Excited to s eye the results. Just thought I would share. I am also on my w at to PE I today on holidays.
Cindy
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Joyce Grant-Worley

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Aug 18, 2016, 3:33:05 PM8/18/16
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I'm the 3rd great Granddaughter of Cuthbert Grant II of Winnipeg, through his son Charles Cuthbert Grant "Bay-ris" who moved to Belcourt North Dakota. I, my son, and my paternal uncle have had a test done through 23andme about 3 or 4 years ago before the FDA made them quit doing some advertising around their medical probabilities. I had my raw DNA (which you can download) transferred to FamilyTree DNA (there was a $30 transfer fee).


I've had other family members test via AncestryDNA and others through Family Tree DNA based on sales they might be running. I understand that only FamilyTreeDNA allow you to transfer in your test to their system. 


At the Genealogical Forum of Oregon (GFO.org) two of the most knowledgeable members about DNA , one a medical doctor prefers 23andMe (however they've doubled their price to $199 for an autosomal test). The other member represents FamilyTreeDNA and prefers that company as you can also have males take the YDNA test. FTDNA also offers mitochondrial tests for the maternal side of families. They don't seem to keen on AncestryDNA as it seems a little murky about their privacy provisions. 


When I started I was interested in the medical issues which a friend had previously used. He noticed that when he had a test done with both 23andMe and FamilyTreeDNA that he would get more responses to his matches from people interested in genealogy. More contacts came through FamilyTreeDNA than 23&me.


You also need to load a family tree or ged.com file out to the sites with names so other relatives can find you. I made contact with a 2nd cousin through 23andme.  It seems like a full time job to track these connections and keep your family tree up to date, but it is a great puzzle hunt. 


Remember if you find a connection introduce yourself and tell the recipient how you might be related and to whom you might be related through. Offer to send you DNA match to them or share your family tree.


Good luck in your hunt.

Joyce Grant-Worley






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Beverly Grant

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Aug 18, 2016, 4:22:53 PM8/18/16
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Would you recommend my husband does the y67 through FamilyTreeDNA, as there is an open Grant project there?  It is currently $268 USD.

Thanks

Bev

Cindy Robichaud

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Aug 18, 2016, 5:56:46 PM8/18/16
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Thanks for the info Joyce. I chose to go with FTDNA and had the Y and the Family Finder tests done. Yes i have heard about uploading to Gedmatch so I will look into it as well. Cindy

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Would you recommend my husband does the y67 through FamilyTreeDNA, as there is an open Grant project there?  It is currently $268 USD.

Thanks

Bev



On Aug 18, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Joyce Grant-Worley <metis...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I'm the 3rd great Granddaughter of Cuthbert Grant II of Winnipeg, through his son Charles Cuthbert Grant "Bay-ris" who moved to Belcourt North Dakota. I, my son, and my paternal uncle have had a test done through 23andme about 3 or 4 years ago before the FDA made them quit doing some advertising around their medical probabilities. I had my raw DNA (which you can download) transferred to FamilyTree DNA (there was a $30 transfer fee).


I've had other family members test via AncestryDNA and others through Family Tree DNA based on sales they might be running. I understand that only FamilyTreeDNA allow you to transfer in your test to their system. 


At the Genealogical Forum of Oregon (GFO.org) two of the most knowledgeable members about DNA , one a medical doctor prefers 23andMe (however they've doubled their price to $199 for an autosomal test). The other member represents FamilyTreeDNA and prefers that company as you can also have males take the YDNA test. FTDNA also offers mitochondrial tests for the maternal side of families. They don't seem to keen on AncestryDNA as it seems a little murky about their privacy provisions. 


When I started I was interested in the medical issues which a friend had previously used. He noticed that when he had a test done with both 23andMe and FamilyTreeDNA that he would get more responses to his matches from people interested in genealogy. More contacts came through FamilyTreeDNA than 23&me.


You also need to load a family tree or ged.com file out to the sites with names so other relatives can find you. I made contact with a 2nd cousin through 23andme.  It seems like a full time job to track these connections and keep your family tree up to date, but it is a great puzzle hunt. 


Remember if you find a connection introduce yourself and tell the recipient how you might be related and to whom you might be related through. Offer to send you DNA match to them or share your family tree.


Good luck in your hunt.

Joyce Grant-Worley





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Geoff Grant

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Aug 18, 2016, 8:25:36 PM8/18/16
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The Grant DNA Project Admins will review the test results and let you know all they can regarding your results. Several different Grant lines have already been genetically defined, so depending on who you match there may be a lot of info ready to be discovered. 

Geoff. 



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I am related to the Grants by way of my mother, Audrey Elizabeth La Fournaise, who married Norman D Lingle, together they had me. Audrey’s parents were Agnes C Clarke and Alexandre La Fournaise (my grandparents). Alexander was the son of Marie Therese Mc Gillis and Joseph Napoleon La Fournaise (my Gr Grandparents).  Marie Therese Mc Gillis was the daughter of Isabelle Fagnant and Angus Mc Gillis (my 2nd Gr grandparents). Isabelle Fagnant was the daughter of Jean Baptiste Fagnant and Josephte Monet dite Bellehumeur (my 3rd Gr. grandparents).  Josephte Monet dite Bellehumeur was the daughter of Marie Marguerite Grant and Michel Monet dit Bellehumeur (my 4th Gr. grandparents). Marie Marguerite Grant was the daughter of Cuthbert James Grant, Sr. and Utinawasis (my 5th Gr. grandparents). Which would make Cuthbert James Grant, Jr. (warden of the plains) my 5th great uncle.
 
Further, I am related by blood to Cuthbert James Grant. Jr’s third wife, Marie Marguerite Mc Gillis (my 4th great Aunt) because, her parents, Angus Mc Gillis and Marguerite Notinikaban Vent de Bout are my 4th great grandparents. (They are the grandparents of my 2nd great grandfather, Angus Mc Gillis, who married Isabelle Fagnant.)
 
Hope this clarifies my relationship to the Grants.
 
Bonnie Lingle

Elaine Buonsante

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Aug 21, 2016, 4:56:31 PM8/21/16
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Hello Mike,
Its me again writing back on the issue of Richard Seymour Grant, he would be my great-uncle. I am attaching the info I have about my relationship to the Grant family. It seems like we might both be related to Richard Seymour Grant. I have one problem with that though. According to my research thus far, his father in my family is Louis/Lewis William Grant and Louis Joseph Grant in your family. Any help on this issue would be much appreciated.

Elaine Buonsante
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L. Grant

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Hello, just discovered your site, not sure how active it is now judging by the dates on some of the postings.

My husband's great great great grandfather was Alexander Grant 1817-1910, born in Tombae, Banffshire, Scotland, the 1851 census of Canada shows he lived in Norfolk County, Ontario, Canada, first wife Arvilla Massecar, second wife Rosalind Hunter.  He died in1910 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.   It is believed he entered Canada via Nova Scotia. His father was James Grant 1786-1876.   I'm constantly looking for further details.   All of our Grant family live in Ontario, Canada.


Beverly Grant

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Hi, my husband descended from William Grant born in Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia on December 31,1845.  Deceased Feb 9, 1916. First wife Christine Lord Brown ( no further info) Second wife Alvira Miller, born in Lawrencetown, NS. Jan 25, 1846 Deceased Yarmouth, NS Feb 29, 1921.

We are trying to find out if he was a descendant of John or James who arrived in Nova Scotia via the ship Hector, from Scotland.  Ship arrived in Nova Scotia in 1773. 

We are also jn process of having his DNA completed.

Bev and Earl Grant

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Hello, just discovered your site, not sure how active it is now judging by the dates on some of the postings.

My husband's great great great grandfather was Alexander Grant 1817-1910, born in Tombae, Banffshire, Scotland, the 1851 census of Canada shows he lived in Norfolk County, Ontario, Canada, first wife Arvilla Massecar, second wife Rosalind Hunter.  He died in1910 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.   It is believed he entered Canada via Nova Scotia. His father was James Grant 1786-1876.   I'm constantly looking for further details.   All of our Grant family live in Ontario, Canada.


Karstan Wiebe

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Hi there :) Cuthbert Grant Jr was my 5th great grandfather. His father, Cuthbert Sr came to Canada in approx 1778 to 1785 from Scotland and he was a member of Clan Grant of Strathespy 
Biography – GRANT, CUTHBERT (d. 1799) – Volume IV (1771-1800) – Dictionary of Canadian Biography (biographi.ca)
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