ืงืฆื™ืŸ ืื’"ืž ื—ื˜ื™ื‘ื” 35 , ืชืงืฉื™ื‘ื•

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ื—ื–ื™,
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ืฉืžืขืชื™ ืžืคื™ ื’ื™ืœ ื“ื•ื“ ื›ืžื” ื‘ื™ื˜ื•ื™ื™ื, ืฉืื™ื ื ื™ ื‘ื˜ื•ื— ื›ื™ ื”ื ืžื“ื•ื™ืงื™ื:
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"ื”ืžืฆืจื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื’ื‘ืขื•ืช ื”ืฉื•ืœื˜ื•ืช" (ื’ื‘ืขื•ืชย - ืื•ย ย ื”ืคืจืฉื™ ื’ื•ื‘ื” ืฉืœ ืžื˜ืจื™ื ืกืคื•ืจื™ื?)
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"ื‘ื—ืกื•ืช ื”ืœื—ื™ืžื” ืฉืœื ื• ืขื‘ืจื• ื”ื“ื•ื‘ืจื•ืช"
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"ื”ืžืฆืจื™ื ื ืกื•ื’ื™ื ืงืžืขื”"
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"ืฆื”ืจื™ื™ื - ื‘ื™ืฆืขื ื• ื”ืžืฉื™ืžื”"
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ืื ื™ ืžื ื™ื— ืฉื‘ื™ื•ื ื”ื–ื™ื›ืจื•ืŸ, ื‘ืงื™ื‘ื•ืฅ ืฉื ืคืœ ื‘ื• ืฉื›ื•ืœ ื›ื” ื’ื“ื•ืœ - ื—ืœืงื• ื‘ื—ื•ื•ื” ื”ืกื™ื ื™ืช - ื’ื™ืœ ื“ื•ื“ ืœื ืจืฆื” ืœื”ืขื›ื™ืจ ืืช ื”ืื•ื•ื™ืจื” ื‘ืกื™ืคื•ืจื™ื "ืœื ื ืขื™ืžื™ื": ื ื˜ื™ืฉืช ืคืฆื•ืขื™ื ื•ืื™-ื—ื™ืœื•ืฆื; ื—ื™ืœื•ืฅ ืข"ื™ ืื ืฉื™ ื™ื—ื™ื“ื•ืช ืื—ืจื•ืช; ื•ืขื•ื“.
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ื•ืื•ืœื™, ืœืžืจื•ืช ื”ื›ืœ, ื™ืฉ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืžืฉื”ื• ื‘ื˜ืขื ื”, ื›ื™ ื”ื”ืชืขืกืงื•ืช ื‘ื’ื“ื•ื“ 890 ื”ืกื™ื˜ื” ืืช ืชืฉื•ืžืช ื”ืœื‘ ืฉืœ ื”ืžืฆืจื™ื ืžืžืขื‘ืจ ื”ื›ืœื™ื ืขืœ ืขื›ื‘ื™ืฉ, ื•ืœื›ืŸ ื”ืงื•ืจื‘ื ื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ื’ื“ื•ื“ ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืœืฉื•ื•ื. ื›ืคื™ ืฉื›ืชื‘ ืื™ืฆื™ืง, ื”ืžืฆืจื™ื ืœื ื™ื“ืขื• ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ืžื” ืงื•ืจื” ืืฆืœื ื•.
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ื”ื ืš ืžืชื‘ืงืฉ ืฉืœื ืœืฉื’ืจ ืœืงื‘ื•ืฆืช ื”ื“ื™ื•ืŸ ื›ืœ ืžื™ื“ืข ืฉืชื•ื›ื ื• ืžืื™ื™ื, ื ื’ื•ืข ื‘ืœืฉื•ืŸ ื”ืจืข ืื•
ื‘ื“ื™ื‘ื”, ืื• ื’ืก ืื• ืคื•ื’ืข ื‘ื‘ื™ื˜ื—ื•ืŸ ื”ืžื“ื™ื ื” ื•/ืื• ื ื•ื’ืข ืœืคืขื™ืœื•ืช ื‘ืœืชื™ ื—ื•ืงื™ืช ื•/ืื• ืืกื•ืจ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืชืงื ืช
ื”ืฆื™ื‘ื•ืจ ืื• ืขืœ ืคื™ ื›ืœ ื“ื™ืŸ ืื—ืจ, ืื• ื”ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ ืขื™ืœื” ืœืชื‘ื™ืขื” ืคืœื™ืœื™ืช ืื• ืื–ืจื—ื™ืช, ืžื•ื‘ื”ืจ ื‘ื–ืืช ืœืžืฉืชืžืฉ, ื›ื™ ืžื ื”ืœื™ ื”ืงื‘ื•ืฆื” ืื™ื ื ืื—ืจืื™ื ืœืชื•ื›ืŸ ื”ืžื™ื“ืข ื”ืžื•ืขื‘ืจ ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ืงื‘ื•ืฆืช ื”ื“ื™ื•ืŸ
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ืงื™ื‘ืœืช ื”ื•ื“ืขื” ื–ื• ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืืชื” ืžื ื•ื™ ืœืงื‘ื•ืฆื” 'Civil Forum' ื‘ืงื‘ื•ืฆื•ืช Google.
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ื‘ืงืจ ืงื‘ื•ืฆื” ื–ื• ื‘-http://groups.google.com/group/civil-forum.
ืœืืคืฉืจื•ื™ื•ืช ื ื•ืกืคื•ืช ื‘ืงืจ ื‘-https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

Isaac Agam

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ืœื—ื–ื™,

ืื›ืŸ ืžืจื’ืฉ.

ืื™ืŸ ื›ืงื™ื‘ื•ืฆื™ื ื‘ืืจื’ื•ืŸ ืขืจื‘ื™ ื–ื›ืจื•ืŸ.

ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื‘ืฆื“ืง. ื”ื ื”ืงืจื™ื‘ื• ืจื‘ื™ื ืžื‘ื ื™ื”ื. ืจื‘ื™ื ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื™ื—ืกื ื‘ืื•ื›ืœื•ืกื™ื”.

ื•ื‘ื›ืœ ื–ืืช ืฆืจื ืœื™ ืžืื•ื“ ืกื™ืคื•ืจื• ืฉืœ ืืœ"ืž ื’ื™ืœ ื“ื•ื“.

ืื™ื ื ื™ ืื•ืžืจ ืฉื”ื•ื ืฆืจื™ืš ื‘ืื™ืจื•ืข ื›ื–ื” ืœืกืคืจ ืืช ื›ืœ ืคืจื˜ื™ ื”ืงืจื‘ ื”ื›ื•ืฉืœ ืฉืœ ื”ืฆื ื—ื ื™ื ื‘ื˜ืจื˜ื•ืจ 42 ื•ื”ืขื•ื‘ื“ื” ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืขืฆื ืงืจื‘ ื ืกื™ื’ื” (ื•ื‘ืจื™ื—ื”) ื‘ืœื‘ื“ ืฉื‘ื• ื”ื•ืฉืืจื• ื”ืฆื ื—ื ื™ื, ืคืฆื•ืขื™ื ื•ื‘ืจื™ืื™ื ืœื’ื•ืจืœื ื‘ืฉื˜ื— ืข"ื™ ืžืคืงื“ื™ื”ื.

ืื›ืŸ ื–ื” ืœื ื”ืžืงื•ื.

ืื‘ืœ ืฉื•ื‘ ืœื ื›ืก ื”ื›ืœ ืœืฆื ื—ื ื™ื ืฉื‘ื–ื›ื•ืช "ืขืžื™ื“ืชื ื”ืื™ืชื ื”" ื”ืชืืคืฉืจื” ื”ืขื‘ืจืช ื”ื’ืฉืจื™ื ืœืชืขืœื” ื–ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืžื•ื’ื–ื.

ื’ื ืœื”ืชืขืœื ืžื”ืงืจื‘ื•ืช ื”ื—ืฉื•ื‘ื™ื ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฉื‘ื”ื ืœื—ืžื• ื•ื ืคืœื• ื‘ื ื™ ื‘ื™ืช-ื”ืฉื™ื˜ื” ื”ืื—ืจื™ื ื‘"ื—ื•ื•ื” ื”ืกื™ื ื™ืช" (ื”ื’ื“ืจื” ืžื•ืจื—ื‘ืช) ืฉื›ื•ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืื ืฉื™ ืฉืจื™ื•ืŸ ื•ืฉื‘ืขื–ืจืชื ื ื›ื‘ืฉื” ื”ื—ื•ื•ื” ื”ืกื™ื ื™ืช ื•ื ื•ืฆืจ ืจืืฉ ื’ืฉืจ ืœืฆืœื™ื—ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ื’ื–ื.

ื”ื›ืœ ื”ืฆื ื—ื ื™ื.

ืœื”ืชืขืœื ืœื—ืœื•ื˜ื™ืŸ ืžืชืจื•ืžืชื• ืฉืœ ื”ืฉืจื™ื•ืŸ ืœืฉื™ืชื•ืงื ืฉืœ ื”ืžืฆืจื™ื ื›ืš ืฉื”ื’ืฉืจื™ื ื™ื•ื›ืœื• ืœืขื‘ื•ืจ ื•ืžืชืคืงื™ื“ื• ื”ื”ื™ืจื•ืื™ ืฉืœ ื”ืฉืจื™ื•ืŸ ื‘ื—ื™ืœื•ืฅ ื›ืœ ื”ืฆื ื—ื ื™ื ืขื“ ื”ืื—ืจื•ืŸ ืฉื‘ื”ื ื–ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืฉืขืจื•ืจื™ื”.

ื•ืขื•ื“ ืœื”ืขื™ืจ ื”ืขืจื” ืฉืœื™ืœื™ืช ืขืœ ื”ืฉืจื™ื•ืŸ ืฉ"ื‘ื ื’ื“ื•ื“ ืฉืจื™ื•ืŸ ื•ื ืกื•ื’".

ื‘ืื• ื›ื™ื“ื•ืข ืฉื ื™ ื’ื“ื•ื“ื™ ืฉืจื™ื•ืŸ ื•ืคืœ' ื‘ืžื‘ืžื” ื•ืœื ื ืกื•ื’ื• ืืœื ื”ืขืกื™ืงื• ืืช ื”ืžืฆืจื™ื ื•ื”ืฆื™ืœื• ืืช ื”ืฆื ื—ื ื™ื ื‘ื ื™ืฆื•ื—ื• ืฉืœ ืžื—"ื˜ 460 ื’ื‘ื™ ืขืžื™ืจ.

ื’ื ืืช ื”ืืจื˜ื™ืœืจื™ื” ืฉ"ื”ื•ืจื™ื“" ื’ื™ืœ ื“ื•ื“ ื”ื•ืจื™ื“ ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ื’ื‘ื™ ืขืžื™ืจ ืžื—"ื˜ ื”ืฉืจื™ื•ืŸ.

ืื ื˜ืจื— ื’ื™ืœ ื“ื•ื“ ืœื”ื–ื›ื™ืจ ืืช ื”"ืคืฉืœื”" ืขื ื”ื”ืขืจื” ืฉืœื• ืœื’ื‘ื™ ื”ื›ื— ื”ืžืฆืจื™ ื‘ื˜ืจื˜ื•ืจ (ืฉืื ื ืืžืจื” ื”ื™ืชื” ื ื›ื•ื ื” ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ) ื•ื‘ื›ืš ืจืžื– ืฉืžื™ืฉื”ื• "ืืฉื" ื‘ืžื•ืช ื”ืฆื ื—ื ื™ื, ืžืŸ ื”ืจืื•ื™ ื”ื™ื” ืœืกืคืจ ืฉืื•ืชื• ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ื’ื ืฉืœื— ืืช ืฉืจื™ื•ื ื™ื• ืœื—ืœืฅ ืืช ื”ืฆื ื—ื ื™ื ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื–ื” ืฉืฉื™ืชืง ืืช ื”ืžืฆืจื™ื ื•ืœื ื”ืฆื ื—ื ื™ื ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื–ื” ืฉื—ื™ืœืฅ ืืช ื”ืฆื ื—ื ื™ื ืžื”ืชื•ืคืช ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื–ื” ืฉื”ืขื‘ื™ืจ ืืช ื”ื’ืฉืจื™ื ืœืชืขืœื”.

ืชืžื™ื“ ืžืคืชื™ืข ืื•ืชื™ ืžื—ื“ืฉ ืื™ืš "ื›ื‘ืฉื•" ื•"ื—ืกืœื• ืื•ื™ื‘" ื•ื‘ื›ืœืœ ื”ื‘ื™ืื• ืืช ื”ื ื™ืฆื—ื•ืŸ ื”ืฆื ื—ื ื™ื.

ื”ืื ื–ื•ื”ื™ ืื•ืคื•ืจื™ื” ืขืฆืžื™ืช ืฉื›ื‘ืจ ืื™ื ื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ื™ืคื˜ืจ ืžืžื ื”, ืื• ืกืชื ื™ื”ื™ืจื•ืช ืื• ืื•ืœื™ ื“ื•ื•ืงื ืจื’ืฉื™ ื ื—ื™ืชื•ืช? ืื•ืœื™ ืชื•ื›ืœ ืœืคืชื•ืจ ืœื ื• ื–ืืช ื—ื–ื™?

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HD

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ื”ื‘ื”ืจื”

ืื ื™ ื”ื‘ืืชื™ ืœื™ื“ื™ืขื”

ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืœื ืžืชื™ื™ื—ืก ืœืชื•ื›ืŸ

ืฉื›ืŸ, ืžื“ื•ื‘ืจ ื‘ื˜ืงืก ื–ื™ื›ืจื•ืŸ

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ื—ื–ื™

Isaac Agam

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ืืชื” ืฆื•ื“ืง ื—ื–ื™.

ื”ื”ืขืจื•ืช ืžื‘ื•ื•ื ื•ืช ืœื—ื‘ืจื™ื ื•ืœื ืืœื™ืš ืื™ืฉื™ืช.

ืื ื›ื™ ืื•ืœื™ ื™ื•ื ืื—ื“ ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ื™ื•ื›ืœ ืœื”ืกื‘ื™ืจ ืœื ื• ืืช ื”ื—ืฉื™ื‘ื•ืช ื”ืขืฆืžื™ืช ื”ืขืฆื•ืžื” ืฉืœ ื”ืฆื ื—ื ื™ื.

ืžื›ืœ ืžืงื•ื ื”ื˜ืงืก ืžืจืฉื™ื ื•ื™ืคื” ืฉื”ื‘ืืช ืื•ืชื•.

ืฉื ื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื”,

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ืื™ืฆื™ืง

ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื™ื•ื“ืข ืขืœ ื”ืœื™ื ืง ื”ื–ื”

ืื—ื“ ืžื—ื™ื™ืœื™ ืฉืœื— ืœื™ ื”ืœื™ื ืง, ืชื•ืš ืฆื™ื•ืŸ ืจืฉื™ืžืช ื”ืื™ ื“ื™ื•ืงื™ื

ืฉืžืขืชื™ ื•ื›ืชื‘ืชื™ ืœื• , ืžื“ื•ื‘ืจ ื‘ื˜ืงืก ื–ื™ื›ืจื•ืŸ

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ืขื ื›ืœ ื–ืืช, ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™, ืฉืขื“ื•ืช ื™ืฉื™ืจื” ืžืคื™ ื’ื™ืœ ื“ื•ื“ ื›ืืฉืจ ืฉื•ื ืืจื™ ื‘ืงื”ืœ, ืขืœ ื”ืขื™ื“ื›ื•ืŸ ืฉืขืฉื” ืฉื•ื ืืจื™ ืœื’ื™ืœ ื‘-16 ืœื—ื•ื“ืฉ ื—ืฉื•ื‘ื”

ื•ืœื›ืŸ ื”ื‘ืืชื™ ืืช ื”ืœื™ื ืง

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