We often forget volume pedals in our bedroom setups but these are basically acting like an attenuator only placed at the end of your chain, which allows you to raise both the gain and master on your amp, as well as increasing the volume on your pedals to push the amp a bit and keep a low volume.
It needs to be a transparent, mids scooped booster like a Buffalo FX Powerbooster, TC Electronics Spark Booster or similar. Set the EQ on the pedal neutral, the volume slightly above unity and the gain as high as possible without the amp starting to break up.
More conventional boosters, like the Buffalo FX Power Booster and TC Electronics Spark Booster, are placed after your high gain pedals. To simulate the effect of a cranked tube amp, set the volume slightly higher than unity and the gain just at the edge of breakup (you might want to lower the treble accordingly). This will both make your cleans sound warmer and, when combined with other overdrives and distortions, these will sound smoother and have more sustain.
Some gain pedals has a dynamic volume stage, meaning that lowering or increasing the volume will change the character of the pedal. Increasing the volume on your overdrive or distortion will also boost the amp, which again will make the pedal sound smoother and slightly more compressed. Experiment with this and find the right balance between boost and not altering the tone too much.
Again, the lack of mid range and too much low end, will make your tone sound both thin and muddy so although you might find some of these mid range boosted pedals both boxy sounding and a bit thin in the lows, they will make your guitar sound warmer and stand out in a band mix.
Vintage style single coils has a low output and very little mids, which can sound rather thin on smaller amps and low volume. Try swapping your pickups for someone hotter, like Texas Specials or a full set of SSL5s. You can even go for P90s or mid 50s humbuckers. This will compensate for the warmth and natural compression you get from louder amps.
Thanks for your kind words Max! Depends on what pedals you are using. Modulation, delay and reverb usually works fine if you just plug them straight into a sound interface. Overdrive, distortion and fuzz will require a pre-amp or they will sound either flat and fizzy or too muddy. Garageband has some pedals and amps you can use to get a decent overdrive or distortion tone going.
Hello Bjorn,
I have followed gilmourish for a couple of years and enjoyed the columns and posts so thank you for a great site and long may it flourish.
I am in my seventies and have come late (after retiring) to playing guitar as a home hobby. Ive been an avid Pink Floyd fan since the early days of Arnold Layne & See Emily Play and have developed an urge to come as close as I can reasonably get to the guitar tone of Comfortably Numb 1st solo, but really need the advice as to where to start.
The gear I have is a Fender Strat Pro Series 2017. Lazy J10 amp fully kitted with tremolo & reverb. G2D Cream-tone Pedal.
Can you please advise me as to which pedals I should be buying ?
This was way longer than I had anticipated but I hope it helps out. If anything I just wanted to let you know you do not have to spend a fortune on most of the Pedals you need to get the Dave Gilmour sound.
Been looking at your page forever and finally have her Hiwatt, speakers, pedals everything. The final piece of the puzzles mic placement for recording. I have 2 sm-57 and a vintage Neumann 87 along with a steinheiusser 906. Could you tell me how many inches from center cone, how far out, for distorted fuzz tones and clean tones. Thanks so much. Big fan of your original stuff as well. All the best.
On Disconnected I was actually challenged by a friend who said I always sounded like Gilmour and he asked me if I could do Jeff Beck, so I did my best on that solo. Absolutely nowhere near Beck but I tried to do some of his tradeback pull-offs and whammy bends. I recorded that with a Strat using the bridge pickup into my Reeves (Hiwatt) Custom 50, with an SM57 placed about 10cm from the grille and probably 2-3cm off centre. I think I used a compressor and the Buffalo FX TDX set to a pretty high overdrive or near distortion. Delays are added in the mix using a stock tape delay plugin in Logic.
I have the EHX Green Big Muff and EHX Crayon which I have tried to use as a booster. I have tried different settings and I think boosting the Muff from behind helps a bit to open up the sound, likewise modulations with chorus and/or flanger, but still not getting there.
Depends on what Twin you have but it has considerably less mid range compared to a Bassman or the British amps like Hiwatt and Marshall. Big Muffs and Fuzz tend to sound thin and bright with the Twin, while more mid range oriented pedals, like the ToL, OCD, RAT etc will compensate for this. The pedals I have mentioned in the feature will go well with the amp. In regards to a loop, assuming you will run the amp clean and use pedals for gain, I would run all the pedals, including modulation and delays into the front end of the amp.
After years and years without playing I started back playing guitar a few months and am really thrilled about it. I currently have a Vox VT20+ amplifier (a modeling amp) but would like now to change for a full tube amp (with a power attenuator since it is only to play in my apartment) but do not have a big budget for it. After many researches the Bugera V5 Infinium seems to have good reviews (even better at some point than other more expensive amps) and was wondering if by any chance you heard about it and what was your opinion.
I thought you would go for the Boss BD2 since you seem to really love that pedal and I was myself leaning for it after looking at a lot of different reviews (besides yours) but if you think the Crayon is the better choice between those two I will go for the Crayon then !
The same goes for the muff, if you think the Green Russian is the better choice here I am also going to follow you on this one !
On the lowest volumes I think the Tubemeister is probably the best between the two. You need to use the gain channel with pedals, set all clean, but it holds up very well on low volume. You should also check out the Laney Studio L5, which has an amazing tone and some very cool home recording features. My main home recording amp at the moment is actually a Marshall Silver Jubilee 20w combo. I needed one amp that can do everything from jazz to metall and one that can take just about any pedal and this amp is amazing. It also has a very good PS feature.
So I am using a Sennheiser E 906, as you are doing as well in the latest videos, and it sounds great, but I noticed when trying to mix it together with a produced backing track the sound no matter clean or distorted sounds a bit raw, boxy or muffled ocasionally I suppose. I know this comes also down to pedal, amp and guitar settings, but when I messed a bit with the EQ in Adobe Audition, I can make it sound phenomenal and fit right in with the backing track.
When I see e.g. an OCD Review on Youtube the knobs seem to be pretty cranked and when the Pedal is being kicked in there is very little overall volume change. I cannot do this without hurting my ears because the volume would literally explode..
This article is excellent. You have done a brilliant job. Being a beginner guitarist, I have not acquired so much knowledge on guitar tuning or tone setup. Well, I have the Peter Green les paul corsa guitar, manufacturer of best tone guitar. After playing this I -came to know what the best tone is. I was looking for some tips to set the tone myself. It is a nice approach by you. I will also try this.
If you would build a bedroom setup from scratch, with all the available options currently, would you still be going for a normal tube amp with its speaker or opt for an amp + speaker emulation product like the Two Notes Torpedo stuff?
Hey Bjorn, I have a Tubemeister 18 and would like to record my guitar playing (In early times I did it with amp simulation and an audio interface on my computer). I just read about that the RedBox recording output delivers high quality audio. Did you made any experience with this?
In regards to the booster pedals. I am interested in the Xotic EP Booster, and was wondering on getting good bedroom tones with just a booster, EQ, and compressor. I play a Tele through a Vox AC-10. Any suggestions? Can this be done? Using just the booster to get that warm creamy sound? ThNks for your time. I absolutely loved this entire article.
I will keep switching things around, trying different things. I was just curious! I have found some great tones already. I feel like it will just be a never ending thing for me lol. Always looking for suggestions.
Like you described in your volume pedal explanation, I think I can keep the volume of pedals and guitar even high at the desired volume, then max out the volume on the amp BUT at the same time having the volume of the EHX Signal Pad lowered down at a volume that is reasonable.
What do you think about it?
If it would be a good idea would you place it between gains and modulations, or at the end of the chain after delay?
(All the pedals in front of the amp without using the loop).
Yes they will. The biggest difference between tubes and solid state are often the dynamics, tubes are often more responsive to the playing and pedals, and the top end. Solid state amps often sound brighter or slightly harsher so you might want to experiment with the treble on the amp and tone controls on your pedals to get the best tone.
For the Blues Jr I think the Plexi Drive is a better fit, yes. It has a bit more mid range and compression, which fits the amp nicely. Settings depends on how you set the amp and what pickups you use. A good start is to set the pedal to unity output level and the tone fairly neutral.
HELP NEEDED
hey there my name is corey huge into wanting to find that tone but cant get it my self was big into the metal scene so thats all i really wanted to find at the time but now i just want a warm nice distorted tone like dave.
i have a jackson soloist witch duncan designed pick ups
metal muff
seymour duncan 805
low budget compression pedal
micro fender eq
and a mxr noise clamp
with a marshall mgcfx102
big help if you could you know how to sort this big mess i would like a real dark side of the moon tone or even a Pompeii tone something cool and funk but nice and warm hope to hear soon
regards
corey