Vigo/Voran Distributor in the US

[winters...@gmail.com]

I am in the process of building a small commercial cidery in Iowa.  I am interested in the Voran presses, but I can't seem to locate a distributor in the US to get pricing, etc.  Anyone able to help?  Thanks

G

[Andrew Lea]

See http://www.voran.at/en/machinery/contact/partners/

They don't list a US agent. You need to contact them directly in Austria
http://www.voran.at/en/machinery/contact/

Andrew

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[Mike Beck]

You can buy a Belt Press in the US. They are not Vigo/Voran
Frontier Technology Inc, in Allegan, Michigan also produces a belt press.
You can get most wearable parts for it at a Grainger/McMacster-Carr website.
m. beck
St. John's, MI

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[WV Mountaineer Jack]

Have you looked at http://www.oescoinc.com/oesco-vertical-rack-cloth-hydraulic-cider-presses.html , pretty much the same thing right. 

WVMJ

[WV Mountaineer Jack]

Has anyone tried this apple grinder from http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/

WVMJ

[Kevin Ormond]

Hi

We manufacture similar presses in New Zealand. Check out http://www.oren.co.nz. Will upload videos in the very near future.

[darlenehayes]

Are you talking about the Maximizer?  It looks like the one we have.  We found that the resulting pomace had pretty large chunks - up to 1 inch in diameter - even if we started with quartered apples (using whole apples makes it almost impossible to turn the crank).  This makes juice extraction pretty inefficient.  And the hand crank aspect also made for very slow and labor intensive processing.  Last season we borrowed a neighbor's electric grinder and were able to process four times the apples in half the time.

Darlene

[WV Mountaineer Jack]

What kind of electric grinder did they have? Pleasant hill has what they are simply calling an electric apple grinder looks like the ones you see on the Euro sites but doesnt have many specifics like what kind of voltage etc. Take that hand crank off and throw it away, put a 3/4 inch drill with a locking trigger on, one person can use it this way with very good flowthru. I would like to get an electric one, just chunking out 1000$ for it far outweighs the loss of juice from using the big red grinder. WVMJ

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I think West Virginia Mountaineer Jack is talking about this pleasant hill grinder.

http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/Images/Electric%20Apple%20Grinder/Apple_grinder_electric_shoot_front_560H.jpg

You can also see it on this page.
http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/fruit_press.aspx?gclid=CILQtM3-xb8CFeVDMgod2i0Abw#eag
2 HP Electric Apple Grinder

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At $965 dollars it looks decent.

I am comparing it to the other semi-commercial grinder offered by oesco.

http://www.oescoinc.com/orchard-nursery/cider-elevator-grinder/6-inch-hdpe-apple-grinder.html

That one costs twice as much and is custom made.

You can find a video of the oesco grinder in use on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5Bg9w4uIEM

Grinding apples with my OESCO grinder

 

I am interested in taking my grinder to a more serious operation, and would like to choose something like one of the above.

Has anyone used the pleasant hill grinder.

I am in the USA.

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On Thursday, July 10, 2014 2:51:24 PM UTC-4, winters...@gmail.com wrote:

[Rich Everett]

Suggest you contact me as we have gone through all the details of presses and Equiptment  and can give you lots of good info

Contact me at reof...@gmail.com or call me at 831-566-0472

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On Jul 10, 2014, at 11:51 AM, winters...@gmail.com wrote:

I am in the process of building a small commercial cidery in Iowa.  I am interested in the Voran presses, but I can't seem to locate a distributor in the US to get pricing, etc.  Anyone able to help?  Thanks

G

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[Rich Everett]

I brought up your site and see nothing about apple presses?  Did you list the wrong address?  

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[Andrew Lea]

See http://www.oren.co.nz/index.php/9-uncategorised/77-ciderpress

Can I just point out from the admin side that this group doesn't permit advertising per se. However, the occasional mention of the availability of relevant goods and services from specific outlets as an assistance to members is of course acceptable.

Our rules state "Advertising of any commercial product or service on these forums is generally not permitted, unless it is ‘on topic’ and relevant to members. "

Andrew

On 15 Jul 2014, at 01:09, Rich Everett <reof...@gmail.com <mailto:reof...@gmail.com>> wrote:

> I brought up your site and see nothing about apple presses?  Did you
> list the wrong address?
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Jul 13, 2014, at 7:31 PM, Kevin Ormond <kiwia...@gmail.com

> <mailto:kiwia...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Hi
>>
>> We manufacture similar presses in New Zealand. Check out
>> http://www.oren.co.nz. Will upload videos in the very near future.
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>> On Friday, 11 July 2014 06:51:24 UTC+12, winters...@gmail.com

>> <http://gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I am in the process of building a small commercial cidery in Iowa.
>> I am interested in the Voran presses, but I can't seem to locate a
>> distributor in the US to get pricing, etc.  Anyone able to help?
>> Thanks G
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[Kevin Ormond]

Apologies Andrew. Totally understand why you need these rules and will abide by them in future. Enjoying the various postings in this group and learning lots more about cider production around the world.

Cheers

Kevin

[David Jordan]

Hi Rich,
I'm putting together a cider mill using Kiko-si equipment. you can check this equipment out on there web site www.kiko-si.si

[Ray Blockley]

The correct link is:

http://niko-si.si/

Ray

[David Jordan]

Voran doesn't ship to the US. I spoke to the factory. the closest supplier is in England. Belt presses are being replaced with pneumatic presses. ATI used to be the main supplier. Over the years cider mills switched to other ways of pressing apples. I do like the Voran press. Check out www. Niko-si.si they make pneumatic presses and belt presses

does anyone have an approved HACCP plan that I may use to modify for my cider mill

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[David Jordan]

thank you for the correction

[Andrew Lea]

On 15/07/2014 22:37, 'David Jordan' via Cider Workshop wrote:

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> does anyone have an approved HACCP plan that I may use to modify for my
> cider mill

See here for some ideas http://www.ciderworkshop.com/commercial_HACCP.html

Note that this is based on British practice. In other countries it may
be different. For instance, here in the UK it is normal practice to
harvest all cider fruit after shaking and falling on to the ground,
where it may lie for days or even weeks before collection. In other
jurisdictions this may be forbidden.

[nfcider]

Have you tried this firm,it was started up by the engineer who was at Voran,their UK distributor is Core Eqipment.
http://www.maschinensucher.de/ma2/bilderanzeigen-A660817-1-de.html
Barry

[Tim]

Beware of Core Equip, nasty tendency to leave customers in the lurch and back out of deals leaving customers with large bills for no reason, pay a little more and use Vigo, they know how to provide good service.

Tim in Dorset

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[Trevor FitzJohn]

Hi Richard, i have an Oren press. Here is a picture of mine. I have found it very reliable and a great step up from my old hand cranked one. Cheers Trevor

[darlenehayes]

It's actually a combination grind and press unit made by Corell (http://www.applejournal.com/correll/.  I'm probably mechanical enough to modify our hand crank grinder, but the pomace is smaller with the Corell, and having it drop from the grinder directly into the pressing basket saves time and energy, too.  I think we've been using either the medium or medium plus, which has worked well for volume we're currently producing.

Darlene

[Kelly McCune]

Did you decide on a press for your start-up? I've also noticed that there is no distributor for Voran in the U.S., regrettably.
Thanks --

[winters...@gmail.com]

Thanks for asking Kelly.  Current plan is to build our own press based on some others we have seen using a 20 ton air hydraulic bottle jack.  Hoping to combine good ideas from several presses we have seen.

 

[Kelly McCune]

Thanks -- that's likely to be where we end up as well.