American Golden Russet

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love.client

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May 29, 2024, 8:17:59 PMMay 29
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Hello! 

Does anybody know somebody who sells American Golden Russet trees - or scion wood - in Europe? Or somebody in the US that would actually send trees or scion wood overseas. I really want to grow this apple, but seems difficult to get a hold on in Europe.

All input is wecome!

Best regards 
Love

jeff.k...@gmail.com

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May 30, 2024, 8:06:23 AMMay 30
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Hi Love,

I have Early Golden Russet in Umeå.  It is too late to send scions this year but get in touch next year and I can collect some.  For what it is worth, Golden Russets do not thrive here, which surprises me.  I have had several die and the others struggle.  No fruit yet, the oldest ones are 4 years old this year on Antonovka.

/J

LL

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Jun 2, 2024, 3:25:44 PMJun 2
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Hi Jeff,
Thanks for your offer! We are in south eastern Skåne, so quite different conditions here than in Umeå. However, I am specifically looking for the American Golden Russet. The Early Golden Russet seems to be synonymous with Saint Edmund's Pippin, which is a different variety (see links below).
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jeff.k...@gmail.com

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Jun 4, 2024, 12:42:53 PMJun 4
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OK!  Please let me know if you find a source for scions.  I would be interested as well.

Cheers!

Jeff

Matt Moser Miller

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Jun 4, 2024, 5:49:22 PMJun 4
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It’s really worth asking: what do you mean by “American Golden Russet”? There are a number of different varieties known by that name (at least 10, according to Dan Bussey’s Illustrated History), some of which still haven’t been sorted out; at a minimum, there are Golden Russet of (Western) New York and Golden Russet of Massachusetts (also called Hunt Russet), which are both sometimes simplified to Golden Russet (which is also sometimes called English Golden Russet). 

It’s also worth spelling out that it’ll likely be difficult/impossible to find someone willing to send you scion wood from the US, which would almost certainly require multi-year quarantine unless it’s being smuggled/breaking biological importation laws. Have you tried with a national body/germ repository, to see if they have (any of the varied) American Golden Russets and if they distribute scion wood?

Best,
Matt Moser Miller
Pealer Mill Cider

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Jun 4, 2024, 6:58:16 PMJun 4
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It looks like American golden russet it is available from Keepers -Nursery in the UK.   It is listed by them and the picture looks like my American Golden Russet. My scionwood came from Century Farms Nursery in North Carolina who specializes in American Heirloom and Southern American apples.   See the link below:


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love.client

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Jun 4, 2024, 8:02:19 PMJun 4
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Hi Matt,

Thanks for your input!

I am no expert on Golden Russet varieties (or apple varieties in general) and I do not have a DNA sequence to give you to identify the variety I am looking for. The reason I am looking for an American Golden Russet is that varieties by that name (which might or might not be genetically identical) seem to give more consistently high Brix measurements in published scientific papers than Golden Russet varieties attributed other names.

I am aware of the difficulties with exporting plant material, which is why I specifically asked for a source in Europe, by which I mean the European Union, since plant material can be moved between countries in the EU. I have found suppliers in the UK but - unfortunately - they have left the EU.

I am not sure our national apple collection keeps American varieties. Anyhow, I was asking here to see if it was available by other chanels.

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Jun 4, 2024, 8:07:54 PMJun 4
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Thanks Bill!

Yes, I have found one or two nurseries in the UK. Unfortunately, I would probably need to either smuggle them to Sweden or go through testing of the trees, since the UK is no longer in the EU. So I should have written the EU rather than Europe.

Are you happy with your Golden Russets?

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Yes.  My one tree is young on MM7 but very vigorous.  A tip bearer that crops heavily.   Ripens here in Central Virginia around the end of September.  Apples have high sugar and moderately acidic to acidic but good flavor for fresh eating and a good base for cider blending.  Apparently they are quite adaptable to most regions of the US
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