Apple Identification SW England

[Paul Rolfe]

Hi All

Does anyone know of a cider apple sleuth in the Southwest of England who could help in identifying cider apple varieties?  I know what I varieties I supposably have but not which trees are which.

 

I understand that Liz Copaz created an inventory here some years ago, but the previous owner could not find it or her contact details.

 

Kindest Regards

 

Paul

[Andrew Lea]

Suggest you buy a copy of Liz’s book https://www.vigopresses.co.uk/Catalogue/Books/Celebrating-Apples-and-Orchards/Book-Cider-Apples-the-New-Pomona-Copas-99011  so you can ID them yourself. If you already have their names this shouldn’t be too hard. Or see here http://www.cider.org.uk/identification.html

You can also get DNA profiling done via FruitID https://www.fruitid.com but I think it may have closed now for this season. 

Andrew 

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[Paul Rolfe]

Thanks Andrew.

The New Pomona was the first book I bought when I obtained the orchard.  I will give it a go.

Kindest Regards

Paul

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Kindest Regards

Paul

Paul Rolfe

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[Andy Backinsell]

I am using the older edition, 'a Somerset Pomona;'  and slowly getting the hang of the distinctions. 

Just in case; has anyone thought to put the identification 'filters' into a spreadsheet?  I wouldn't want to undertake this for all cider apples but the Somerset book is achievable!

I often find I can narrow it down to a few cultivars however by the time I start doubting my interpretation, I lose track! I'm thinking Dabinett for this one, but it could be any number of them really.

Did you get far with identification Paul?

Andy B

[Ian Shields]

Looks more like Harry Masters Jersey to me.

Ian

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[Andy Backinsell]

Thanks Ian - I spent a while thinking HMJ too, was put off by 'bluish bloom' but re-reading it again there's loads of other characteristics that fit.  That's what I mean about the spreadsheet, might stop me getting lost an moving onto the next.

Andy

[Gloria Bell]

for some reason I am unable to view the photo or did I miss the link?

[Andy Backinsell]

Hi Gloria, the link is here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XGjmUUc1Dw5Hwi5ercHmCRfC_qinjYg48073wOu1Pl0/edit#heading=h.axhcy52l4pix

Andy

[Paul Rolfe]

Hi Andy

I managed to get several varieties identified by:

a) Speaking directly to Liz Copaz

b) Using the New Pomona book once the apples had fully ripened

c) Speaking to other local orchard owners

d) Posting photos of the apples on Instagram to lots of cider makers in the UK.

The Apples I have identified are:

Browns

Ellis Bitter

Dabinett

Morgan Sweet

Yarlington Mill

Michelin

Somerset Redstreak

Kingston Black

I still haven't found the Tremlits Bitter or Ashton Bitter.

I tried to use the identification tool here but with little success.

https://www.fruitid.com/#identification/1

Regards

Paul

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[Vince Wakefield]

You could also try this site

 

https://pomiferous.com/

 

Vince

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