scion wood exchange

[david stevens]

Hi, dont know if im in the right place, but im looking to exchange scionwood, if anyone is interested please email me , regards dave.

[Dick Dunn]

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> Hi, dont know if im in the right place, but im looking to exchange
> scionwood, if anyone is interested please email me , regards dave.

It would help a teensy bit if we knew where in the world you are.

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[david stevens]

On Saturday, 18 January 2014 21:31:05 UTC, david stevens wrote:

Hi, dont know if im in the right place, but im looking to exchange scionwood, if anyone is interested please email me , regards dave

hi again, im in reditch england b98 7he, im new to using google posts so please bear with me, my email address is drs...@blueyonder.co.uk, i have prepared a large amount of scions mainly apple , and will mail a list to anyone interested in swaps. thankyou again dave.

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[Edu coto]

Hi, i live in Frankfurt. I am interested in buying scion wood for cider apples ( kingston black, dabinett...)
So please contact me if you can sell.

Regards,

Edu

[david stevens]

hi edu, ive only got small amount of michellin,tale sweet,stoke red and major, if interested send me your details to drs...@blueyonder.co.uk,, i would prefer to swap scions if you have any available please let me know which types , i collect all types of fruit tree   regards dave

[Edu V Coto]

Hi Dave,

all of them are interesting.
How many scions could you provide?? With 20 for each variety would be perfect.

I can offer you traditional german cider apples scions. All of them good even for single variety cider Apfelwein (cider)

Bohnapfel, Boskoop, Goldparmäne and Rote Trierer Weinapfel.

Regards,

Edu

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[Claude Jolicoeur]

Hello Edu,
I am right in thinking Goldparmäne is synonym with King of the Pippins and Reine des reinettes? This is an apple that I also like to use in my ciders.
As of Boskoop, with its very high acid content, I am surprised to see you consider it as a traditional german cider apple. I also use it in my ciders, but blended with low acidity varieties.

Another question, have you measured the density and acidity of the juices from Bohnapfel and Roter Trierer? I would be very interested to see how those numbers would compare with other varieties.
And what other varieties are considered important traditional cider apples in germany?

Thanks,
Claude

[Edu V Coto]

Hi Claude,

Yes, Goldparmäne is also known as Wintergoldparmäne, King of the Peppins, Reine de Reinettes or Englische Wintergoldparmäne.

The origin of Boskoop is Holland, however it´s a frequent variety here, not just in street markets and supermarkets, also for cider making in Frankfurt (Hessen) region.

I just got some numbers from a friend :

Boskoop 10.5g/L

Bohnapfel 11.5g/L

I will check more numbers as soon as i get home.

Some traditional apples known as "old varieties" used in Germany to make Apfelwein are Boskoop, Bohnapfel, Goldparmäne,Holzapfel, Sternrenete, Kaiser Wilhelm, Bittenfelder, Winterrrambur, Schafsnasse or Graue Herbsrenette.

regards,

Edu

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[david stevens]

 Its true you learn something every day, i`ve got king of pippins and Reine de Reinettes, which i now know are the same apple,i collect all types inc cider culinary and desert, and all types fruit not just apples, i can only supply about 2 of each as the trees are still small stage ,having said that if your after a broad spectrum not just cider theres a long list to pick from ive tried to attach a file yet it wont work so leaving a long list see what you want, will be more in few weeks if interested. regards dave.

Available 2014




adams pearmain
aldoer
api etoile
appletown wonder
apricot apple
ashmeads kernal
balsam
bardsey island
baudsafer munster lauder
beauty of bath
bess pool
bramley
burr knot
catalac pear
cellini
charles ross
chivers delight
cockpit improved
cornish honey pippin
court royal
darcy spice
divine
doctor hogg
duke of devonshire
egremont russet
ellis bitter
ellisons orange
evening gold
falstaff
fiesta
galaxy
gascoines scarlet
golden russet new york
harry masters jersey 1 off
herrings pippin
hockings green
john standish
kids orange red
kingsnare pippin
Lc redflesh
loddington
lodgemere non pariel
lodi
long keeper
lord burghley
madresfield court
major
mc intosh red
merton knave
michellin
mirabelle du nancy
monmouth green
newton pippin
nine square
norfolk royal russet
payhembury
pendragon
pigs nose pippin
pitmaston pineapple
pixie rosso
port wine
red boskoop
red cave
red devil mine
red melba
Reine de reneitte
reinette gris ancient
reiva
santana
scarlet pimpernel
severn bank
somerset redstreak
sops in wine
starkrinson
starspur g.d.
stoke red cider apple
summerland mcintosh
sunburn 1off
surecrop
skyehouse russet
tale sweet
topaz
tremlitts bitter
upton pine
welspur delicious
winter banana
worcester pippin
wormsley pippin
xmas pearmain
yorkshire aromatic 

[Edu V Coto]

Hi Claude,

Bohnapfel: 58Oe. , 12-13 sugar, 10-11,5gr/L acidity

Roter Triere: 75Oe, 14 sugar, 12 gr/L

Bittenfelder: 57Oe,  14 sugar, 14gr/L

Rhein Schafsnase: 56Oe, 12,2 sugar, 11gr/L

[Claude Jolicoeur]

Edu coto wrote:

Some traditional apples known as "old varieties" used in Germany to make Apfelwein are Boskoop, Bohnapfel, Goldparmäne,Holzapfel, Sternrenete, Kaiser Wilhelm, Bittenfelder, Winterrrambur, Schafsnasse or Graue Herbsrenette.

Many of those are known under other names I think... We already settled the case of Goldparmäne.
Holzapfel - sometimes seen with Waldhofler - as in: Waldhofler Holzapfel, would it be the same variety?
Sternrenete - I think this is same as Reinette rouge étoilée
Bittenfelder - I have seen this name with Samling, i.e. Bittenfelder Samling - is it the same?
Winterrrambur - Probably the Rambour d'hiver of the French
Schafsnase - sometimes seen with Rheinische, i.e. Rheinische Schafsnase, I guess it is the same?
Graue Herbsrenette - this would be some Reinette grise, but what does "Herb" stand for in Herbsrenette?


And in another post a bit later,

Bohnapfel: 58Oe. , 12-13 sugar, 10-11,5gr/L acidity

Roter Triere: 75Oe, 14 sugar, 12 gr/L

Bittenfelder: 57Oe,  14 sugar, 14gr/L

Rhein Schafsnase: 56Oe, 12,2 sugar, 11gr/L

I gather these acidity numbers would be in malic - these are very high numbers, ciders made with those would be quite sharp.
Is the number with sugar the Brix, i.e. 14 sugar would mean 14 degrees Brix.
And probably, for the Roter Triere, your fingers slipped and wrote 75 instead of 57 Oe?

Thanks very much for the informations.
Claude

[Edu V Coto]

Yes, almost every apple has different names in germany.

-Winterrrambur is the "Rambour d'hiver du Rhein" but also known as Rambo or Rambour Rouge. Original german apple already known in the 17century.

-Bittenfelder is the colloquial mame for Samling Bittenfelder. Probably one of the best rootstocks in the world.

-Stern Renette: calville Etoilee, Pomme de Cour, Herzapfel, Rote Herbstrenette and Weihnachtapfel. The origin is probably Maastricht in 17century.

-Schafsnase is the colloquial name for Rheinische Schafnase ( as you can see many of those apples borned somewhere close to the Rhein river). But there is another Schafsnase in Berlin, also known as Gestreifter Matapfel which is not the same.

-Graue herbstrenette: also Deutsch Graue Renette, Laderrenete and Reinette gris d'Automme in France. Origen probably in Metz, close to german border (old times was part of germany) from 17century.

-Holzapfel: ist synonym of wildapfel. It was the  Tree of the year in germany 2013.

Yes, all of them with high acidity. That's why are well known as 'Most' varieties. Apfelwein is sharp, but not too sharp. Just in same way as in Asturias or Basque Country, but without volatil acidity. 

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[Noah]

Hello Edu,

I'm very excited to have stumbled upon this post, I don't always have time to read the group's digest email that I get routinely. I live in Maine in the USA, but I have spent a lot of time in Germany and now that I am more seriously getting into cider making, I am trying to plan a trip to southern Germany to meet some cider makers and/or orchardists. In what capacity do you make cider or grow trees? Is it just a hobby for you, or do you do any of this professionally? Excuse me for asking, but are you originally from Germany? Your name makes me think you have a different heritage.

I know the winter is severly lacking in Germany so kind regards from wintery Maine,

Noah

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[Edu V Coto]

Hi Noah,

you are right, I am not german. I come from another cider region, Asturias, in North Spain. Asturias is were my family has always been making cider. There we have local cider varieties (amariega, regona, raxao, xuanina, mingan...)

I live in Frankfurt (German cider capital)  since 7 years ago.

Cider is a hobby. I am the owner of the spanish blog 'Cider Guerrilla' , i writte in a monthly magazine about cider in Spain "La Sidra"..and quite few other things. I was last year in Michigan for GLINTCAP.

Here in Frankfurt i have good relations with many cidermakers. I also take part in projects with the local cider activist crew.
We share knowledge and make some activities as with the scions we want to graft here and there. Some friends have 10 trees, others 100...

Best place to visit cidermakers in Germany is around Frankfurt. It´s the most authentic cider culture with highest production consumption in the Country.

There is also kind of cider culture (ofter apples mixed with pears)  known as 'Most' in Bavaria, in Baden-Württemberg and Upper Austria, and 'Viez' in Saarland and Rheinland-Pfalz.

Regards,

Edu

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[Claude Jolicoeur]

Le mercredi 22 janvier 2014 01:28:43 UTC-5, Edu coto a écrit :

-Holzapfel: ist synonym of wildapfel. It was the  Tree of the year in germany 2013.

Edu
That is quite interesting... From this Wikipedia article (which I had Google translate) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holzapfel
Holzapfel would be the name given to the wild European crab Malus sylvestris.

Then, would I be right in assuming:

Holzapfel by itself refers to the M.sylvestris

When associated with another name, like in Waldhofler Holzapfel, it would mean the same as if we were writing Waldhofler crab, like we have here Virginia crab, Wickson crab, etc.

Does this interpretation makes any sense?
Thanks, Claude

[david stevens]

Hi Edu,

          Im starting to send scions out now, so please mail me which you want , just send me 2 of each you have please, label well what they are and i will work out what each is later.


ps inc name and full address regards dave

[Edu V Coto]

Mmm, it can make sense, but i know Holzapfel just as Holzapfel. I guess in Waldhof Holzapfel is also just Holzapfel.

Last year, as Holzapfel was the Tree of the year in Germany, children planted some of them in this village, but it has no relation with a new variety.

Maybe in USA they just added their state or council name to the M.Sylvestris they got there from european settlers.

El miércoles, 22 de enero de 2014, Claude Jolicoeur <cjol...@gmail.com> escribió:

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[David Llewellyn]

So, Edu, are these Holzapfel trees planted in your village just seedlings, or do you know whether they are grafted trees? And, likewise, this Tree Of The Year Holzapfel – is it a particular apple ‘variety’ that is actually propagated in nurseries by grafting, or is it M. sylvestris seedlings? And have you any idea why it is called Holzapfel? Could it be that if you wanted to grow apple trees for timber (Holz), this is what you would grow??

 

David

 

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[Claude Jolicoeur]

David wrote :

So, Edu, are these Holzapfel trees planted in your village just seedlings, or do you know whether they are grafted trees? And, likewise, this Tree Of The Year Holzapfel – is it a particular apple ‘variety’ that is actually propagated in nurseries by grafting, or is it M. sylvestris seedlings? And have you any idea why it is called Holzapfel? Could it be that if you wanted to grow apple trees for timber (Holz), this is what you would grow??

My guess David is that "wood" in that context should be interpreted as "forest" rather than "timber".
After all, in Latin, malus sylvestris means just that: apple of the forest.

Claude

[David Llewellyn]

Hi Claude, Holz in German specifically means timber. Unlike in English, they have specific words for forest and timber which are not interchangable. But who knows, the ‘holz’ part of the name could be a derivative of something else, or maybe it refers to the fruit itself in some way rather than to the actual tree….etc etc? I’d be curious if there happened to be a known explanation.

 

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[Edu V Coto]

Sorry, i did not explained correctly. I was talking about the village of Waldhof.

In Waldhof, childrens plant everyyear the Tree of the year in Germany, so there is right now a kind of avenue with 25 Trees of the year planted. But this happens in many villages or Towns in Germany, like Mannheim too. So last year new  Holzapfel trees have been planted in the country.

I have no idea why is called Holzapfel, but maybe has some relation with making Stilt houses, also known as pile dwellings or palafittes. wood from Holzapfel was finded in such old palafittes in Lake Constance, south Germany or in Mondsee in Austria.

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[Thomas Fehige]

Edu is right, in standard German Holz = timber. But there are many regional dialects and, I think, an obsolete usage in standard German, where Holz can also mean "wood" as in "forest". This meaning also still exists in town names like Osterholz (i.e. Eastwood, like in Clint ;) )

Holzapfel = crab apple = malus sylvestris, yes, but with the same caveat as in the rest of the world: Many of those Holzäpfel are seedlings of malus domestica, some biologists even think the real malus sylvestris doesn't exist anymore. ("Holzapfel" on German Wikipedia)

Some German apple names are fun. One of the various sorts of Schafsnase (sheep's nose) is regionally also known as Saurüssel (sow's trunk), (although there seems to be also an Austrian white wine of that name. And a mountain ...).

Cheers -- Thomas

[drs...@blueyonder.co.uk]

Hi David, to side track you, would you be interested in exchanging any scions or selling any, i notice your only in ireland so close by to me. regards dave.

[Claude Jolicoeur]

Interestingly, the Waldhofler Holzapfel I was refering to is actually a Swiss cider apple, that originated in Thurgovia (German part of Switzerland) by 1850. So I guess this has nothing to do with the village of Waldhof in Germany!

I originally asked the question because I had seen some information on this apple named Waldhofler Holzapfel, and in some other source of information there was something on Waldhofler (alone) and I was wondering if this would be the same apple variety.
So guess the answer is yes, like Bramley is the same as Bramley's Seedling, or Wickson Crab is the same as Wickson...

Claude

[David Llewellyn]

Hi Dave, I don’t know whether I’d have scionwood of interest to you. I didn’t see you saying what exactly you wanted! I myself am not looking for particular scionwood this year, apart from perry pear wood, for which I am making a journey in early March to Herefordshire, Worc, and Gloucs, on a perry pear quest! If you think I could be of any help let me know. But I don’t have anything that’s not fairly common across your side of the water.

 

I’ll be meeting Dave Matthews, and going with him to visit some perry pear growers and makers. I’m going to plant a little plantation of perry pears, choosing a few ‘likely’ varieties that might thrive in our relatively ‘pear-unfriendly’ climate, and I’m open to adding any variety to my collection that is relatively reliable in cooler spring/summer/autumn conditions.

 

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[Edu V Coto]

Hi David,

Please many greating to Dave Matthews from Edu, Konstantin, Michael and Coady from Frankfurt!

Thanks

[david stevens]

Hi David,  perry pear no i don`t have, just started buying from brogdale but very pricey,and of no use if you need volume, be interested to see where you go in worcestershire as that`s where`i`m from,  i`m just looking for diferent varieties of all types and on a small scale

On Friday, 24 January 2014 05:18:44 UTC, Edu coto wrote:

Hi David,

Please many greating to Dave Matthews from Edu, Konstantin, Michael and Coady from Frankfurt!

Thanks
El viernes, 24 de enero de 2014, David Llewellyn <da...@llewellynsorchard.ie> escribió:

Hi Dave, I don’t know whether I’d have scionwood of interest to you. I didn’t see you saying what exactly you wanted! I myself am not looking for particular scionwood this year, apart from perry pear wood, for which I am making a journey in early March to Herefordshire, Worc, and Gloucs, on a perry pear quest! If you think I could be of any help let me know. But I don’t have anything that’s not fairly common across your side of the water.

 

I’ll be meeting Dave Matthews, and going with him to visit some perry pear growers and makers. I’m going to plant a little plantation of perry pears, choosing a few ‘likely’ varieties that might thrive in our relatively ‘pear-unfriendly’ climate, and I’m open to adding any variety to my collection that is relatively reliable in cooler spring/summer/autumn conditions.

 

David Llewellyn

Tel: + 353 87 2843879

www.llewellynsorchard.ie

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Hi David, to side track you, would you be interested in exchanging any scions or selling any, i notice your only in ireland so close by to me. regards dave.





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Hi, dont know if im in the right place, but im looking to exchange scionwood, if anyone is interested please email me , regards dave.

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[Celine Emilia Emerson]

Hello David ,    I am  looking for apple varieties for all uses and for cider.  I have several hundred varieties that you could choose from if you would like to trade . I am looking for  Muscadet de Dieppe , Stoke Red , Souvenir de Fernand Cognet , Dymock Red , Collaos , Broxwood Foxwhelp , Nehou , Harry Masters J , Browns Apple , Medaille d Or , Ellis Bitter , Porter's Perfection , Peau d Ane , Plum , Captain Broad , Black Vallis , Doux Normandie , Rouget d Born , Norfolk Coleman  , and others.

[david stevens]

Hi Celine, i have traded most the scions i have for this year , i have  a list of the last lot of trees i now have left, these are

apricot variety named early
adams pearmain
aldoer
american summer pippin
api etoile
apricot apple
ashmeads kernal
balsam
bardsey island
baron ward
baron wolesley
borsdsofer munsterlander roter
beauty of bath
blenheim orange
blue tit plum (good allrounder)
bloody ploughman
bramley
broads meading
burr knot
cellini
chivers delight
cockpit improved
cornish aromatic
cornish honey pippin
court of wick
court royal
coxs pamona
domino
duke of devonshire
durondeau
egremont russet
ellis bitter
ellisons orange
evening gold
falstaff
fiesta limited now
flavour king pluot
galaxy
gascoines scarlet
golden russet new york
gravenstein
greensleeves
herrings pippin
hockings green
ida red
irish peach
jumbo
john standish
jonagold
kids orange red
kingsnare pippin
lanes prince albert
lemon pippin
Lc redflesh
lodgemere non pariel
lodi
lord burghley
madresfield court
markham pippin
major
mc intosh red limited
merton knave
mirabelle du nancy
monmouth green
newton pippin
nottingham medlar
norfolk royal russet
orleans rinette
payhembury
peasgood nonsuch
pigs nose pippin
pitmaston pineapple
port wine
red cave
red devil 
red melba
Reine de reneitte
reinette gris ancient
reiva
rosemary russet
scarlet pimpernel
scissons of worksop
severn bank
sennecca plium
sops in wine limited
spartan
starkrinson
starspur g.d.
summerland mcintosh
sunburn 1off
surecrop
skyehouse russet
upton pine
vicar of winkfield (small scions in length thou)
welspur delicious
wine apple
winter banana
winter king (winston)
worcester pippin
wormsley pippin
xmas pearmain

there will only be say 2 of each ,if of any interest to you please mail a list to this email address ,
could you also let me know what country you are from , regards dave

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[Gerald White]

On Saturday, January 18, 2014 at 9:31:05 PM UTC, david stevens wrote:

Hi, dont know if im in the right place, but im looking to exchange scionwood, if anyone is interested please email me , regards dave.

Hello Everyone

My name is Gerald White and I live in Wales in the UK. I have spent 60 years in horticulture and I am

a Member of the Royal Chartered Institute of Horticulture.

I am looking for all types of fruit tree graftwood and all types of soft fruit cuttings. I have an extensive

range of fruit so I would be very happy to do exchanges of material.

Looking forward to hearing from someone.

Best wishes...Gerald. 

[david stevens]

Hi Gerald and Group,   I sent you a package hopefully you have  received by now, will send a list soon of what`s left soon , was you sending rootstocks or scion`s please

 

also I had scion wood from someone from Europe, its plum with small splits that look like bite mark`s on it, any idea ,might just bin before grafting it

 is a weak spray of Jeyes Fluid fatal as Bordeaux is expensive and not so easy to get hold of as a precaution measure on plum/pear dormant season spray.

 Regards Dave.

[Gerald White]

Hello Dave

Will send rootstocks and a small amount of graftwood, bit of a delay because I have been in hospital. Do not use Jeyes Fluid, Phenol is toxic when in

contact with Meristem tissue. Use very weak Bicarbonate of Soda mix. A flat mustard spoon to a pint of water. Gumming disorder will cause the problem

you describe.

Best wishes,

Gerald

[Gerald White]

Hello Celine

What varieties do you have, please let me know. Do you want any Welsh Cider varieties.

Many thanks...Gerald.

[William Grote]

Guuude Edu, are you still in FFM? 

I lived there for 10 years, in Sachsenhausen, which is why I started making cider back here, to get my fix of ebbelwoi :-)

I'd like to try to get some scion wood for some Speierling (Sorbus domestica) trees,  hope to be able to grow them here in NH.  Have you had any luck on sources for other German varieties,  

Cheers

William

On Friday, January 24, 2014 at 12:18:44 AM UTC-5, Edu coto wrote:

Hi David,

Please many greating to Dave Matthews from Edu, Konstantin, Michael and Coady from Frankfurt!

Thanks
El viernes, 24 de enero de 2014, David Llewellyn <da...@llewellynsorchard.ie> escribió:

Hi Dave, I don’t know whether I’d have scionwood of interest to you. I didn’t see you saying what exactly you wanted! I myself am not looking for particular scionwood this year, apart from perry pear wood, for which I am making a journey in early March to Herefordshire, Worc, and Gloucs, on a perry pear quest! If you think I could be of any help let me know. But I don’t have anything that’s not fairly common across your side of the water.

 

I’ll be meeting Dave Matthews, and going with him to visit some perry pear growers and makers. I’m going to plant a little plantation of perry pears, choosing a few ‘likely’ varieties that might thrive in our relatively ‘pear-unfriendly’ climate, and I’m open to adding any variety to my collection that is relatively reliable in cooler spring/summer/autumn conditions.

 

David Llewellyn

Tel: + 353 87 2843879

www.llewellynsorchard.ie

(previously 'fruitandvine.com')

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Subject: [Cider Workshop] Re: scion wood exchange

 

Hi David, to side track you, would you be interested in exchanging any scions or selling any, i notice your only in ireland so close by to me. regards dave.





On Saturday, January 18, 2014 9:31:05 PM UTC, david stevens wrote:

Hi, dont know if im in the right place, but im looking to exchange scionwood, if anyone is interested please email me , regards dave.

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[Edu V Coto]

Guuude!

Good luck with the Speierling...it takes loooong take until becomes productive.

There are some great german varieties in case you like acidity.

Probably, the most influential varieties for making traditional Apfelwein are Bohnapfel, Trier Weinapfel, Schafsnase, Goldparmäne, Boskoop & Kaiser Wilhelm.

Cheers!

Edu

2016-04-16 18:34 GMT+02:00 William Grote <bem...@gmail.com>:

Guuude Edu, are you still in FFM? 

I lived there for 10 years, in Sachsenhausen, which is why I started making cider back here, to get my fix of ebbelwoi :-)

I'd like to try to get some scion wood for some Speierling (Sorbus domestica) trees,  hope to be able to grow them here in NH.  Have you had any luck on sources for other German varieties,  

Cheers

William

On Friday, January 24, 2014 at 12:18:44 AM UTC-5, Edu coto wrote:

Hi David,

Please many greating to Dave Matthews from Edu, Konstantin, Michael and Coady from Frankfurt!

Thanks

El viernes, 24 de enero de 2014, David Llewellyn <da...@llewellynsorchard.ie> escribió:

Hi Dave, I don’t know whether I’d have scionwood of interest to you. I didn’t see you saying what exactly you wanted! I myself am not looking for particular scionwood this year, apart from perry pear wood, for which I am making a journey in early March to Herefordshire, Worc, and Gloucs, on a perry pear quest! If you think I could be of any help let me know. But I don’t have anything that’s not fairly common across your side of the water.

 

I’ll be meeting Dave Matthews, and going with him to visit some perry pear growers and makers. I’m going to plant a little plantation of perry pears, choosing a few ‘likely’ varieties that might thrive in our relatively ‘pear-unfriendly’ climate, and I’m open to adding any variety to my collection that is relatively reliable in cooler spring/summer/autumn conditions.

 

David Llewellyn

Tel: + 353 87 2843879

www.llewellynsorchard.ie

(previously 'fruitandvine.com')

From: cider-w...@googlegroups.com [mailto:cider-w...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of drs...@blueyonder.co.uk
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Subject: [Cider Workshop] Re: scion wood exchange

 

Hi David, to side track you, would you be interested in exchanging any scions or selling any, i notice your only in ireland so close by to me. regards dave.





On Saturday, January 18, 2014 9:31:05 PM UTC, david stevens wrote:

Hi, dont know if im in the right place, but im looking to exchange scionwood, if anyone is interested please email me , regards dave.

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Edu

Bembel greetings from Boston!  Do you ( or anyone here for that matter)  have scion sources for any of those varieties?  

Striving to re-create the perfect 'Schoppe' this side of the Atlantic

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[Claude Jolicoeur]

Le lundi 9 mai 2016 16:26:40 UTC-4, William Grote a écrit :

Bembel greetings from Boston!  Do you ( or anyone here for that matter)  have scion sources for any of those varieties? 

Probably, the most influential varieties for making traditional Apfelwein are Bohnapfel, Trier Weinapfel, Schafsnase, Goldparmäne, Boskoop & Kaiser

Of those, Boskoop and Goldparmaene (aka Reine de reinettes or King of the Pippins) are fairly easy to find in N.America. For the 4 others however, I am not aware of any N.American source...
Claude

[david watson]

Hi edu
I'm looking for scion wood for Austrian perry pears. Do you have any suggestions?

I have some interesting cider/ perry varieties I'm happy to exchange

Dave