RE: [ChurchillChat] Re: "Hussein Onyango Obama... tortured onChurchill's watch"
Smith, James M
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From: Quinn Bastian [mailto:qc...@msn.com]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 2:02 PM
To: Smith, James M; church...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Re: "Hussein Onyango Obama... tortured onChurchill's watch"
Wouldn't it be more appropriate if people in positions of influence checked the facts before making false statements?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Smith James M <james...@dwt.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:31:07
To: <church...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Re: "Hussein Onyango Obama... tortured on Churchill's watch"
Isn't it rather, if anything, the bigotry of the right to blame Obama for (in addition to everything else under the sun) holding a grudge against WSC for an event that didn't happen "on his watch", and alleging falsely that he claimed his grandfather was tortured? Both Ms. West and Richard's link to FH explode this myth.
The net of this is that the book reviewer was-- innocently or maliciously-- wrong in his attribution of anti-WSC feelings on the part of Obama.
James M. Smith
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From: church...@googlegroups.com [mailto:church...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Johan Arve
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 4:26 AM
To: church...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Re: "Hussein Onyango Obama... tortured on Churchill's watch"
Another example of the bigotry of the left.
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Editor/Finest Hour <tcc...@sneakemail.com <mailto:tcc...@sneakemail.com> > wrote:
Antoine, See "Winston is Back" and "Bust-Out 2013" in Finest Hour 142, pages 7&8, and/or http://xrl.us/bhwooo
Diana West wrote on Townhall.com: 'In his "Dreams of My Father," Obama describes his grandfather's detention as lasting "over six months"
before he was found innocent (no mention of torture). Whatever the case, Churchill didn't become prime minister for the second time until the end of 1951. The Mau Mau Rebellion didn't begin until the end of 1952, one year after Obama's grandfather's release.'
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Quinn Bastian
Editor/Finest Hour
"We remember the sardonic war-time joke about the optimist and the
pessimist. The optimist was the man who did not mind what happened so
long as it did not happen to him. The pessimist was the man who lived
with the optimist." --WSC, 1938
It was Finest Hour's judgment to make light of the whole business
because we knew the media were hoping we'd spout and fume so they
could pile fuel on the fire and hopefully improve their ratings--some
of them actually called us to see if we would bite.
"These gentlemen of the press were listening carefully to every word
you said—all eagerly anxious for a tiny morsel of cheese which they
could publish. And you go and give them a whole ruddy Stilton!"
--WSC, 1941, on an indiscreet interview by Rear Admiral Thompson
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I agree ... but in my view just to have obama and WINSTON in the same discussion makes me sad ...
G
Carey Stronach
CES
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I make it a habit to fact check absolutely everything I read as I am very much aware of confirmation bias (i.e., if you think person X is a low-down ornery polecat who would steal the wheels off a baby carriage, and someone says X cheats at cards, you'll probably believe it. But do you know whether person X even plays card games? Maybe he doesn't).
As Churchillians, we should be used to this - poor WSC, he's been accused of everything except the extinction of the dinosaurs (and I expect that will happen soon!!). It is very unfortunate that frequently journalists do not fact check but go with confirmation bias. It's a serious professional failing. It is a virtue of the Churchill Centre that they attempt to correct this. We have to live life as it is. In a perverse way, we should perhaps feel glad that WSC is still, 45 years after his death, considered important enough to be accused of ridiculous stuff like this.
Lordy, Lordy, Lordy. I learned long ago that if an idea is sufficiently ludicrous, you can't kill it. You can take it out to a cross-roads, beneath a gallows under a full moon and bury it with a stake through its heart and it will still rise and walk again. Expect it to continue because it will.
Jonathan Hayes
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