Piers Morgan challenges young anti-Churchill Scot

[Rafal Heydel-Mankoo]

A big social media story in the UK at the moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy8Bt_V971o

Piers Gets Into a Fiery Debate Over Scottish MP's Churchill Comments | Good Morning Britain Ross Greer Scottish MSP recently posted a tweet calling Winston Churchill a "white supremacist mass murderer". Piers challenges Ross on the comments which sparks a fiery debate. Subscribe now for more! http://bit.ly/1NbomQa Broadcast on 29/01/2019 Like, follow and subscribe to Good Morning Britain! The Good Morning Britain YouTube channel ... www.youtube.com

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[Richard Langworth]

"The Hon. Member is never lucky in the coincidence of his facts with the truth." —WSC, 14 July 1954

Wow. Piers Morgan must be reading from the HIllsdale Churchill Documents. The worrisome part is that Piers is middle aged, and Mr Greer has far more years ahead of him to spew his "eloquent stupidity."

Here's a handy guide to all of Greer's charges, and the best replies to them:

https://richardlangworth.com/assault-winston-churchill-readers-guide 

[Antoine Capet]

Winston Churchill was a villain, says John McDonnell

Shadow chancellor condemns wartime PM over his role in quelling of 1910
riots in Wales

Wed 13 Feb 2019

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/13/winston-churchill-was-more-villain-than-hero-says-john-mcdonnell?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVS19XZWVrZGF5cy0xOTAyMTQ%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK&CMP=GTUK_email


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[Mike Campbell]

Ha, someone send him the Roy Jenkins bio.

8-)

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[Robert Courts]

Friends, 

There has been a strong response on this story here last night and this morning:

https://twitter.com/robertcourts/status/1095946162836852737

https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2019-02-14/debates/F3F9CC25-D033-4FCB-8D3B-2D6BA201D411/BusinessOfTheHouse#contribution-EEE72F32-0BAE-47C5-BA91-0D2EA5A85FC4

All best

Robert

[Mike Campbell]

Thanks, Robert and Richard.

Just from Roy Jenkins' "Churchill: A Biography" (2001, Farrar, Straus and Giroux, pg.199):

"On any objective analysis it is difficult to fault Churchill in the Rhondda for any sin of aggression or vindictiveness towards labour.  Indeed at the time he was criticized from the opposite direction. The Times thundered at his weakness."

[Quinn Bastian]

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[Antoine Capet]

Dear All,

The Proceedings of the 2015 Churchill Conference at the Sorbonne and
Invalides, Paris, have just appeared :

Winston Churchill: At War and Thinking of War before 1939
Edited by B.J.C. McKercher & Antoine Capet
Hardcover. Routledge, 2019.
9780367133030
£115

Table of Contents

Introduction (B. J. C. McKercher and Antoine Capet) 1-14
1. At War on the Nile: What Winston Churchill Learned from the River War
(James W. Muller) 15-63
2. "A dangerous, if not malignant design": Winston Churchill and the German
Naval Challenge before the Great War (John H. Maurer) 64-80
3. "By God, I will make them fight!" Winston Churchill and Britain’s
Decision for War in 1914 (John W. Young) 81-101
4. Churchill's Downfall in 1915: The British Press and the Dardanelles
Campaign (Christopher M. Bell) 102-118
5. What Churchill and de Gaulle Learned from the Great War (Will Morrissey)
119-126
6. The Limitations of the Politician-Historian: Winston Churchill,
Rearmament, Appeasement, and the Origins of the Second World War (B. J. C.
McKercher) 127-152
7. Winston Churchill and the Golden Age of Journalism (Richard Toye) 153-168
8. Winston Churchill, France and the Middle East (Warren Dockter) 169-184
Consolidated Bibliography (A. Capet) 185-199
Index 200-206

https://www.routledge.com/Winston-Churchill-At-War-and-Thinking-of-War-before-1939-1st-Edition/McKercher-Capet/p/book/9780367133030

With best wishes to all,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoin...@univ-rouen.fr

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor
Royal Historical Society Bibliography

https://www.lisez.com/livre-grand-format/churchill/9782262065355

[Antoine Capet]

A book chapter which might interest List Members who can read German:

Kielinger, Thomas. 'Die britische Europa-Politik von Winston Churchill bis
David Cameron : Ein Beitrag zur Debatte um das EU-Referendum am 23.Juni
2016'. In Kellerhals, Andreas [Editor]. 70 Jahre Churchill-Rede in Zürich -
Europa wohin? : Referate zu Fragen der Zukunft Europas 2016. Zürich :
Referate zu Fragen der Zukunft Europas, 2017 : 69-86.


With all best wishes,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoin...@univ-rouen.fr

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor
Royal Historical Society Bibliography

Reviews Editor of CERCLES
http://www.cercles.com/review/reviews.html
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[Antoine Capet]

Dear All,

Interesting reference to Churchill and June 1940 by the former Conservative
minister Michael Heseltine :

As I told marchers at last Saturday’s demonstration in London, I dismiss
with contempt the image of us as an island wrapped in a union jack, glorying
in the famous phrase that captured, for so many, Winston Churchill’s spirit
of defiance in 1940: “Very well, alone”. I was there. I saw our army
evacuated, our cities bombed, our convoys sunk. Churchill did everything in
his power to end this isolation. Alone was never Churchill’s hope or wish:
it was his fear.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/25/theresa-may-leader-name-only-britain-brexit

With all best wishes,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoin...@univ-rouen.fr

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor
Royal Historical Society Bibliography

Reviews Editor of CERCLES
http://www.cercles.com/review/reviews.html
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[Antoine Capet]

Sir Winston Churchill's cigar box at Blenheim Palace

The ornate box, which is believed to be worth more than £1m, is part of a
new exhibition on the former Prime Minister at his birthplace in Woodstock.

Oxford Mail

Text and photos:

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/17611142.sir-winston-churchills-cigar-box-at-blenheim-palace-exhibition/?fbclid=IwAR1G9nhFR7_ViJ0DlJ6I-4dI7f3L1Wd759ODNzxG9fjx_qt7gzXOOL2Yqwc

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoin...@univ-rouen.fr

https://www.lisez.com/livre-grand-format/churchill/9782262065355

[Cita Stelzer]

Heseltine (I am no fan of his) was seven years old in 1940.
Cita Stelzer