Churchill's last London home (in which he died) is up for sale - £23 million

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Rafal H. Mankoo

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This 'very special' home exudes the spirit of old Kensington, says Penny Churchill has she visits the former London home of Sir Winston Churchill.


Antoine Capet

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Dear Rafal,

Many thanks - Mary Soames mentions the back garden as one of the features of
the property which so pleased the family, but I had never seen any
photographs of it.

Is the author of the article, Penny Churchill, any relation ?

By the way, S. Buczacki says in Churchill & Chartwell (key to his ill. 181)
that the blue plaque is "inaccurate". What is wrong with it ?

Best wishes,

A.C.

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Cullen, Anthony

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Maybe the dates on the plaque? Churchill's date of birth and death are on it but not the time he lived there from (1945).

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Dear Rafal,

Many thanks - Mary Soames mentions the back garden as one of the features of the property which so pleased the family, but I had never seen any photographs of it.

Is the author of the article, Penny Churchill, any relation ?

By the way, S. Buczacki says in Churchill & Chartwell (key to his ill. 181) that the blue plaque is "inaccurate". What is wrong with it ?

Best wishes,

A.C.

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Rafal H. Mankoo

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Dear Antoine,

I wouldn't necessarily say that the plaque is inaccurate; however I assume Buczacki is referring to the fact that the plaque makes no mention of the exact period of Churchill's residency at Hyde Park Gate (unlike, for example, his blue plaque on 34 Eccleston Square or his green City of Westminster plaque on 29 St. James's Place).

Kind regards,

RHM




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Dear Rafal,

Many thanks - Mary Soames mentions the back garden as one of the features of
the property which so pleased the family, but I had never seen any
photographs of it.

Is the author of the article, Penny Churchill, any relation ?

By the way, S. Buczacki says in Churchill & Chartwell (key to his ill. 181)
that the blue plaque is "inaccurate".  What is wrong with it ?

Best wishes,

A.C.

Professor Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Head of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoin...@univ-rouen.fr

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor
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Richard Langworth

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On Thursday, February 9, 2017 at 3:07:57 PM UTC-5, Antoine Capet wrote:
 Mary Soames mentions the back garden as one of the features of
the property which so pleased the family, but I had never seen any
photographs of it.

Antoine,
Attached garden photo is from the estate agent (Knight, Frank & Rutley) brochure when HPG it was put up for sale after WSC's death. 
Years ago I reproduced this very elaborate illustrated document as an ICS publication, so copies may be around
Best
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Richard M Langworth 
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​e Churchill Project
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Garden.jpg

David Freeman

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Colleagues:

The blue plaque at 28 Hyde Park Gate reads "Sir Winston Churchill KG, 1874–1965, Prime Minister, lived and died here."

It is the penultimate word that is inaccurate. What actually happened is this:

After settling into #28, the Churchill's found their household operations growing to the point that more room was required. The family then acquired the adjoining property at #27, and the two residents were connected. When Churchill himself became extremely old and could no longer manage stairs, a bedroom was established for him on the ground floor of #27. It was in THIS room that he died. Thus Churchill did NOT die at 28 Hyde Park Gate but at the house next door, that is #27.

After her husband's death, Lady Churchill moved out, and the two properties were once again separated before being sold off.

So for strict historical accuracy, there should perhaps be two blue plaques: one at # 28 that simply says "Sir Winston Churchill lived here" and one at #27 that reads "Sir Winston Churchill died here."

KBO,
 
David Freeman


Antoine Capet

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Dear all,

Renewed thanks for this "old" photograph and for clearing the question of
the "inaccuracy". I was puzzled, finding nothing wrong with the plaque - I
had not thought about the No. 27 / 28 ambiguity !

By the way, the estate agents' site has more photographs of the garden, and
a very detailed plan of the property :

http://www.struttandparker.com/properties/hyde-park-gate-kensington-london-sw7

Scroll down until you reach "Download brochure".

Unfortunately the plan does not show the former "party wall" between No. 27
& No. 28. Presumably the bedroom where Churchill died would now be the
Dining Room on the right (24' x17'9") ?

The property is now on offer for £23m. Is the selling price in 1965 known ?
It would be interesting to see the rate of inflation in London real estate
prices since then !

Best wishes to all,

A.C.
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Rafal H. Mankoo

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Many thanks, David. That's no doubt what Buczacki was referring to. 

It's worth noting, however, that No. 27 is not a separate property. No. 27 was incorporated into No. 28 before the Blue Plaque was affixed (1985).  Therefore, as the two houses are now one single property (and are being sold as such), the plaque isn't necessarily inaccurate.

Best,

RHM




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The floorpan included in this latest brochure appears to be #28 HPG only not both #27 and #28. There since WSC died in #27, he did not die in the now dining room 24 x 17.9.

Does anyone know if the backyards have been separated again? WSC had the backyard wall removed when he acquired #27.

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Homeporter

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Feb 10, 2017, 5:11:17 PM2/10/17
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Here is a recent photo I took of #27 and # 28 HPG.


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WSC 27 and 28 Hyde Park Gate.jpg

Homeporter

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Two more of #27 HPG


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WSC 27 HPG B.jpg
WSC 27 HPG.jpg

Dave Turrell

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Richard is modest, as always, regarding the enormous contribution he made in making this material available to the Churchill community.  I have a copy of this reproduction and it is of excellent quality.  Sixteen pages and eleven illustrations.  The auction for the freehold was held on 28th October 1965.  A quick google yields little on the results.  Does anyone know what the properties (27 was bundled in with 28) fetched? 

 

I paid a visit to Hyde Park Gate somewhere around 1997, and got there at a time when the property was undergoing extensive renovation.  The front door of 28 was wide open, with a builder’s van parked outside – and clearly nobody in residence.  Alas, I lacked the courage to ask (bribe) the builder for a quick peek around.  I would have loved to have been able to look through the window where the iconic 90th birthday image was taken – from the inside.

 

Dave

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Antoine Capet

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Dear All,

There are more details on HPG in S. Buczacki’s excellent _Churchill &
Chartwell_ :

No. 27 was bought for £7,000 in August 1946 (p.257) - he has no figures for
No.28, bought the year before

Best wishes to all,

A.C.
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