Can someone please help me translate the phrase "to hit the wall" into spanish? I am thinking it might be something like yo he chocado la pared/el muro.... or choqu el muro con mi espanol... o mi espanol ya ha chocado el muro.
Has anyone tried to learn a second language in earnest? The obvious choice is Spanish, since we all learned it in school. But I have heard German is actually easier to learn for native English speakers. Then there is the notoriously difficult Chinese, and all it's tones and characters that seem totally alien to westerners... yet, China is where the money is going, and where you should be too if you want to ride the wave of wealth and glory to the Middle Kingdom alongside Ray Dalio and Mark Zuckerberg. Latin based languages are great for travelling, especially in Europe. For business, Chinese? Any ideas?
during the pandemic I began getting fluent in spanish in earnest and have recently begun learning italian. I recommend learning a language you enjoy and not just out of pure utility. if you don't enjoy visiting the place where the language is spoken you won't use it or really stay passionate about it. I recommend abiding by the principles in the video below in terms of content that you enjoy and how to begin with the language (struggling through conversation, reading, etc.).
I'd consider another language that's distant from english if you seriously want to work there or want to marry someone from there. one of my good friends moved to japan after graduating, married a japanese girl, is fluent, but still was NEVER accepted into the culture because of their insularity and found it difficult to keep a job there so keep in mind the local culture as well.
in short, I'd ask yourself this - have there been opportunities you've been exposed to within your company/industry where having a second language would've sealed the deal? or, are you just thinking "china's growing, I should learn mandarin?" if the latter, I'd probably pause because mandarin (or so I've heard) is among the most difficult languages to learn and if you're not passionate about it, you won't learn it, and if you're not at least B2 level it won't do you any good.
rather, learn a language you're passionate about. maybe you're into BJJ and want to learn portuguese to do a camp in curitiba, maybe you're iranian american and want to learn farsi to impress your relatives, etc etc. not everything has to be about utility my friend, the benefits of language learning from a neuro perspective are plentiful and culturally, even more.
He estado estudiando espaol por un poco ms de un ao y ahora puedo conversar con los padres de mi novia. Me gustara viajar a Mexico para experimentar la cultura a travs del idioma. Gracias por compartir tu experiencia en llegar a ser fluido en este hermosa idioma. Adelante!
vale, que bueno! Te avisara que sigues practicando diariamente si sera posible. El proceso de ganar competencia en un idioma no es lineal, vas a sentirte que no ests progresando, pero en un momento, aparecer algo nuevo, posiblemente un momento como la habilidad de platicar totalmente en castellano, escuchar a un video o un podcast sin parar, as. Si sigas, mejorars. Buena suerte caballero
My Spanish has somewhat remained intact, but I never brush up on the language so it has faded a bit. My Mandarin was only basic and I learned about 800 characters, but the first thing to go is writing Chinese. Speaking Mandarin is not too difficult; the structure of the language is straightforward and there are no articles. But, the characters have no relation to pronunciation, so you have to memorize every character.
how do you maintain polyglotism and what're your native tongues? I'd consider myself fluent in 2, lower intermediate in 1 (italian) but would love to learn more once I get to upper intermediate or fluency in italian.
Natives: Russian (parents), Spanish (moved when was a kid in Spain). Russian is maintained by speaking it home and with friends. Spanish, even if I don't use often it's like a second mother language and you can't forget it + speaking with Spanish friends from where I lived). So, maintaining those two was easier due to travelling back and forth between those 2 countries (not now).
Italian was fairly easy to learn it because of it's similarity with Spanish. So I studied 6 months in Italy and followed courses of Itallian law getting into legal lingo. Although I now don't use it often, it's my favourite language and sometimes when I need to read about something more technical for example when I read a lof about any topic, I can switch to another paper on the same topic in a different language so it doesn't become monotonous and it gives a certain novelty to the reading (think books, research papers, etc.)
French is the most recent one, worked temporarily in France and because of Italian/Spanish, the writing and reading was fairly easy to grasp, for speaking it was usually to practice with co-workers, locals, language learning apps (Duolingo, Busuu) amd following mews. But I'm not very interested in it, I got into it just so I may not regret in a future that I went to France and didn't learn the language.
Learning languages has also a certain compound effect, the more languages you speak the more you see similarities with other languages in words, sentance structure, etc. and you can grasp it easier. Also, during some years learning foreign languages was one of my main interests, so the curiosity and desire was there. Now I'm tired
I agree with most of what you have said, but I think it's important to note the vast majority (if not every) German person I have encountered can speak English fairly easily (unlike Spanish, French and Italian people), so it might not be that crucial to learn IMO (could perfectly be wrong). For some reason, Portugal (not Brazil) also has a lot of "fluent" English speakers.
True, from that point of view a better language would be French considering that the majority of France is monolingual (read: pride) BUT when you speak German you separate yourself from the majority and Germans also appreciate the effort.
Also, read some time ago a post from a guy in US who worked closely with some engineers from Germany and everyday after work he went with them to the bar and spoke with them only in German. They liked it and offered him a better position in Germany, so sometimes putting an additional effort to speak their language may open some interesting doors.
I think that makes the most sense. The last time this question was asked, it was a toss-up between Spanish and French. French has more cachet internationally (diplomacy, etc.), but really at that point you'll already be speaking English, so for a day to day kind of thing, I think thebrofessor's comment above about really trying to immerse yourself in the culture in question will guide most people
Don't do Chinese unless you're really serious about it. I took Chinese in college and after three semesters of hard work our professor told us that almost nobody in the class should speak about their Chinese skills in interviews as none of what we had learned would be enough to be used in real-world scenarios. The Spanish and German kids on the other hand were all able to hold long conversations on most topics.
Conversational Mandarin Chinese is actually not that hard to learn, despite the self-perpetuating myths. The tonal pronunciation is likely the most challenging, but the grammar is simple and sentence structure straightforward.
Learn Dutch or German. Both very practical in European business and both are very easy to learn for English speaker (even easier than Spanish) and Dutch in particular is strikingly similar to English.
I've taken French and German. French is in the same family as Spanish, so I can talk a little about the differences. I would say that German is very easy to listen too. Very easy. This is because Germans enunciate every syllable very clearly. French was a shit show in this regard, Spanish will be in between, but probable closer to German than French in terms of easiness. German grammar came to me more easily. It's just more intuitive to native English speakers imo.
In terms of vocab, I like to group it into 2 groups: basic words like (I, you, he, it, the, a, etc....) German is *much* easier in this regard. In terms of non-basic words, you'll have an easier time with Spanish. Personally, I just think the Germanic world is super cool. I like the DACH countries a lot. In IB, no language is going to help you unless you're fluent, so just do what you think you'd enjoy the most. I think I would have taken Russian if I could start over.
I am working proficient in Mandarin and elementary-medium in Japanese. I would definitely NOT learn a language past the very basics if the only reason is because it seems good for business. I would say learning a crash-course in basic words is already very helpful for creating good will in most other countries. Then after that you kind of have to commit to being serious about it for the language to benefit you any more. Gotta have passion in order to motivate you to get over the hump of being a beginner.
Currently teaching myself Portuguese. 1000% recommend it, especially if you took basic Spanish in HS. It's basically a cooler, sexier, and livlier sounding version of Spanish. Not saying Spanish isn't those things, but Portuguese just sounds so sick. The sentences sound so melodic and calming, but also energetic and lively. Even more so with the Carioca (Rio) accent. You pretty much have a 40% headstart if you already took HS Spanish.
Whatever language you pick -- try to have some sort of deeper, emotional connection with it. Portuguese is a much less popular language vs. Spanish / French / Chinese / Hindi / Russian / etc. (9th most-spoken), but I really knew for a fact that I wanted to travel to Brazil & Portugal. A big thing for me was connecting with the people there on a deeper level, especially in Brazil where 95%+ don't speak any English. It's a great motivator to keep you going on your journey, especially once the Duolingo stuff starts to gets exhausting (trust me, it will.)
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