Hi Paul and Desi:
Yes, it is off topic. He spent too much time on this and that is also why I am glad he wrote.
As I've stated before (here?), I've never met an honest atheist. Every atheist I've met, when I get them down and take a stick to their head(s) - metaphorically speaking -fesses up. As far as 'they' are concerned, there are two kinds of heads - square ones (right angles) and round ones. (like a serpent) I suppose there is an honest atheist out there, I just haven't met him or her. Desi spent a lot of time on this. He isn't alone in this regard. Why? Why legitimize them? They know they are joking and the joke is on us.
I begin every discussion with an atheist by saying that from my own experience, I never met an honest one. After all, reason and experience are supposed to be their guides. Put them on their heels from the get go. They can't attack anything I hold dear when I don't believe a word they are saying. That is my way of getting my hand firmly on their neck - then I begin to pound. Take everything they say and use it against them. Believe me, I think I've heard every argument. Sooner or later, they always fess up. Then I let them go.
'it' is crazy. We live in a den of vipers. In my estimation, they outnumber us by about 1000-1. Maybe more. No matter where you are right now, we all have a choice. Repent and believe. Stick a'round and be a square! Sure, we may be under now. 'They' have today, and 'they' need us to lead them to tomorrow. Our retirement is better. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden. If that ain't mysticism, I don't know what is.
God Bless,
Pete