STKaiti

[Cheng & Tsui]

I'm trying to create a PDF with characters in STKaiti, but every time
I export my InDesign document, I get the following error message:

"华文楷体: This font could not be embedded due to restrictions in the font
file. The font must be installed to view or print this file properly
with Adobe Acrobat."

I called Adobe, and the customer support technician ran into the same
problem when he tried it on his computer, which leads me to think that
it's definitely not a problem with my InDesign settings, but rather a
copyright issue with the font (as the error message says). When I
look at the font information in Font Book, the copyright is given to
Changzhou SinoType Technology Co., Ltd., a foundry I couldn't find out
much about on the internet. Because this is a system font that came
pre-installed on my Mac (OS X 10.4.11), I thought Apple might have
their contact information, and I assume they do but they won't
disclose it. I was hoping to get in touch with the foundry to find
out if there's a newer version of the font available -- ideally one
that would embed in PDFs. And it has to be STKaiti, because that's
the only font I've found that supports the specific character
variations I need: 蔥, 望, 拐, 帶 , 英, 廣, 顏, 植, etc. If any of you have a
phone number or email for the foundry, I'd appreciate it (or any
advice about how to get around the restriction/embedding problem on my
computer).

Regards,

Sumanth Prabhaker

[Eric Okorie]

Good question.

Try using open source Arphic True Type fonts. :-)
http://code.google.com/p/pzphp/source/browse/#svn/trunk/free_chinese_fonts_arphic

bkai is traditional
gkai is simplified

If you have SVN, you can simply checkout the fonts from my Google Code project
http://code.google.com/p/pzphp/source/browse/trunk/free_chinese_fonts_arphic/readme_arphic.txt

I hope they embed.

Live long and prosper. :-)

Eric

[TenThousandThings]

For some technical information from Adobe, geared toward developers,
not users, but still informative, see here:

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/acrobat/pdfs/FontPolicies.pdf

I guess maybe it is the fsType information embedded in the font that
ID/Acrobat is using. It seems somewhat unlikely that Apple would
license basic fonts for the system that can't be embedded (though be
careful about commercial-use restrictions, which may not be
immediately apparent) -- or it could be an Adobe thing where they're
placing undue restrictions on third-party fonts (maybe erring a bit
too far on the side of caution -- I don't know -- it's conceivable
that ID/Acrobat also balks is there is no fsType or FSType info at all
in the font). I have spent time in the past trying to find a web site
for SinoType, with no real success -- just a mention of their
existence on a business-oriented site for Changzhou.

I'm not sure how ID-dependent your document is, but you could
experiment with exporting to a different format and then using Mac OS
X's built-in PDF option in the standard print dialog.

If not, then you should be able to find a Kai-family font that meets
your needs -- you just need a GBK or GB18030 font produced in China.
STKaiti is a GB18030 font which follows mainland typographical norms
(for both simplified and traditional characters). Besides STKaiti, I
have one other GB18030 font on my machine that will work, brought over
from Windows Vista: KaiTi v. 5.01 (the font file is "simkai.ttf") by
Beijing "ZhongYi" (now largely goes by the name "Founder"), which is
easy to find on the web:

http://www.founder.com.cn/

A quick test shows that it does not generate the embedding warning, so
KaiTi seems to work (ID CS 3 and Acrobat 8 running in OS 10.5 Leopard,
but it shouldn't matter).

Regards, Eric

[王龍駒]

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On Mon, Sep 15, 2008, Eric Okorie wrote:

> Try using open source Arphic True Type fonts. :-)
> http://code.google.com/p/pzphp/source/browse/#svn/trunk/free_chinese_fonts_arphic
>
> bkai is traditional
> gkai is simplified

Just a note:

I get the following error page when clicking on the links rather than
being able to download them:

"This file is too large to display."

Clicking on the "View raw file" link underneath that, however, begins
the download.

Weird way of doing that.

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[Cheng & Tsui]

Thanks for your help, everyone...I can't tell you how much more
competent I feel just having read these posts. I'll try out your
ideas and let you know what works and what doesn't.

- Sumanth

On Sep 16, 9:37 am, "王龍駒" <wanglon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> .
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008, Eric Okorie wrote:
> > Try using open source Arphic True Type fonts. :-)

> >http://code.google.com/p/pzphp/source/browse/#svn/trunk/free_chinese_...

[王龍駒]

On Mon, 2008/9/15, Sumanth Prabhaker at Cheng & Tsui wrote:

> I'm trying to create a PDF with characters in STKaiti, but every time
> I export my InDesign document, I get the following error message:
>
> "华文楷体: This font could not be embedded due to restrictions in the font
> file. The font must be installed to view or print this file properly
> with Adobe Acrobat."

Have you tried generating a PDF from the Print dialogue rather than exporting?

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[TenThousandThings]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 7:27 PM, 王龍駒 <wangl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have you tried generating a PDF from the Print dialogue rather than exporting?

Not possible from within InDesign. It has its own "Save to PDF" option
and doesn't support Mac OS X's in the Print dialog.

It might be possible to export to a different format and do it, but
that's beyond my user level. And it would require another program to
handle the exported document. Pages might be an option, I guess.

The easiest answer is to switch to Vista's KaiTi, although it handles
spaces differently from STKaiti, so some adjustments would be
required. But visually the two fonts are pretty much identical.

Eric

[王龍駒]

On Thu, 2008/9/18 Eric wrote:

> > Have you tried generating a PDF from the Print dialogue rather than exporting?
>
> Not possible from within InDesign. It has its own "Save to PDF" option
> and doesn't support Mac OS X's in the Print dialog.

I had a suspicion this was the case ... being Adobe and all.

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