How to display Chinese characters in Palm Desktop program in Mac OS X 10.5.8?

[Ant]

Hello.

My client used to use his old Windows 2000 SP4 Dell PC for his Palm
Treo 680 desktop, Hotsync (backups too), and Palm Desktop with English
and Chinese data (characters with CJKOS -- http://www.dyts.com/en/products.html).
He switched to his 3+ years old MacBook Pro with updated Mac OS X
10.5.8 since Palm finally released software for it compared to years
ago. However, Mac's Palm Desktop does not show these Chinese
characters.

How do we display Chinese characters in this program? Other programs
like Office 2008, Firefox v3.6.24, etc. show and input Chinese
characters just fine. I know my client has to use TwinBridge CJK/
Chinese Partner v6.0 in Windows 2000 SP4 to show them so I assume it
is similiar for Mac OS X. TwinBridge doesn't seem to have a Mac OS X
product port. :(

Thank you in advance. :)

P.S. Happy Chinese New Year in advance. ;)

[TenThousandThings]

Palm Desktop always had issues with Chinese in OS X. All of the
versions for OS X, including the last one, 4.2.1, were basically just
ports of the OS 9 application so it runs in Rosetta on that machine in
10.5.8.

I killed the Palm OS page a while back, but the old versions of it are
still in the WayBack machine:

http://web.archive.org/web/20060831192302/http://www.yale.edu/chinesemac/pages/palm.html

There may be something there that can help you. Later versions of the
page don't have the Palm Desktop entry -- this one is from August 31,
2006.

Eric

On Jan 21, 6:39 am, Ant <antd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello.
>
> My client used to use his old Windows 2000 SP4 Dell PC for his Palm
> Treo 680 desktop, Hotsync (backups too), and Palm Desktop with English

> and Chinese data (characters with CJKOS --http://www.dyts.com/en/products.html).

[Ant]

Thanks. Those information helped a lot. I wonder why Palm Desktop from
stripping Chinese-language information from your text in Mac. Windows
doesn't do that and TwinBridge show it.

On Jan 24, 4:39 pm, TenThousandThings <hello.ras...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Palm Desktop always had issues with Chinese in OS X. All of the
> versions for OS X, including the last one, 4.2.1, were basically just
> ports of the OS 9 application so it runs in Rosetta on that machine in
> 10.5.8.
>
> I killed the Palm OS page a while back, but the old versions of it are
> still in the WayBack machine:
>

> http://web.archive.org/web/20060831192302/http://www.yale.edu/chinese...

[Ant]

On http://web.archive.org/web/20060831192302/http://www.yale.edu/chinesemac/pages/palm.html
for Troubleshooting guide, does anyone have the working download links/
files in
the broken http://web.archive.org/web/20060831192302/http://www.exomanic.com/modules/mydownloads/
link?

Also, opening the exported Palm Desktop's VCF file file did not want
to open in TextEdit:
"...
3. Open TextEdit.
4. Choose Open from the File menu.
5. Open the file you just saved, with the Plain Text Encoding pop-up
menu set to "Traditional Chinese (Mac OS)".
6. The file should open fine. All your Chinese data should be visible
amidst the other stuff.
..."

Is it because of the missing link/files I need from exomanic.com to
synchronize or can I skip that? I did try skipping it and setting Palm
Desktop's preferences fonts to a Chinese font ("Apple LiGothic for
Traditional Chinese, or Hei for Simplified Chinese"). I see a few
blocks. I assume that is normal by "not perfect". :(

On Jan 24, 4:39 pm, TenThousandThings <hello.ras...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Palm Desktop always had issues with Chinese in OS X. All of the
> versions for OS X, including the last one, 4.2.1, were basically just
> ports of the OS 9 application so it runs in Rosetta on that machine in
> 10.5.8.
>
> I killed the Palm OS page a while back, but the old versions of it are
> still in the WayBack machine:
>

> http://web.archive.org/web/20060831192302/http://www.yale.edu/chinese...

[Kerim Friedman]

Dear Ant Dude,

This is Kerim. I wrote most of that palm syncing FAQ. It will not work without the patched conduits. Without them, the sync process is stripping the additional code necessary to read Chinese, and there is no way you can make this information re-appear once it has been stripped. If you can't find the application to do the patch, I suggest a much easier way to do this: sync the data to Windows, export the data from the Windows version of Palm Desktop and then import that file to the Mac. Then buy an iPhone. 

Cheers,

Kerim

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[Ant]

Hi Kerim. Nice FAQ even if it is very old.

We managed to get some Chinese to HotSynch with Palm Desktop (Date
Book, Memos, Addressbook) with that Palm encoder in Mac OS X 10.5.8.
Now, we can see Chinese characters in Mac OS X 10.5.8. Now, how do we
see those Chinese in Apple's iCal (totally messed up even with
English), Address Books, etc. after importing Palm Desktop's exported
VCF files?

Thank you in advance. :)

On Jan 29, 4:02 pm, Kerim Friedman <oxus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Ant Dude,
>
> This is Kerim. I wrote most of that palm syncing FAQ. It will not work
> without the patched conduits. Without them, the sync process is stripping
> the additional code necessary to read Chinese, and there is no way you can
> make this information re-appear once it has been stripped. If you can't
> find the application to do the patch, I suggest a much easier way to do
> this: sync the data to Windows, export the data from the Windows version of
> Palm Desktop and then import that file to the Mac. Then buy an iPhone.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Kerim
>
>
>

> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Ant <antd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On
> >http://web.archive.org/web/20060831192302/http://www.yale.edu/chinese...

> > for Troubleshooting guide, does anyone have the working download links/
> > files in
> > the broken

> >http://web.archive.org/web/20060831192302/http://www.exomanic.com/mod...

[Kerim Friedman]

The FAQ describes the process for the address book. You may look at that solution for a general solution to iCal as well. Main thing is to change from Chinese encoding to unicode.

Good luck!

kerim

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College of Indigenous Studies

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[Ant]

Where's the FAQ at? I didn't see it in
http://web.archive.org/web/20060831192302/http://www.yale.edu/chinesemac/pages/palm.html
...

[Kerim Friedman]

Sorry, the entire page is a FAQ, or it used to be. It isn't called that anymore.

Cheers,

kerim

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[Ant]

Oh OK. Thanks. :)

On Jan 30, 4:10 pm, Kerim Friedman <ke...@oxus.net> wrote:
> Sorry, the entire page is a FAQ, or it used to be. It isn't called that
> anymore.
>
> Cheers,
>
> kerim
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 5:49 AM, Ant <antd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Where's the FAQ at? I didn't see it in
>

> >http://web.archive.org/web/20060831192302/http://www.yale.edu/chinese...