CEDICT for Apple Dictionary

[Kyrie1965]

Hello!

CEDICT for Apple Dictionary:
http://www.yuriev.info/CEDICT.zip

Based on latest version of MDBG CC-CEDICT.

Requirements: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)

To install just unzip the file to /Library/Dictionaries

Sreenshoots:
http://yuriev.info/c1.jpg
http://yuriev.info/c2.jpg
http://yuriev.info/c3.jpg
http://yuriev.info/c4.jpg

--
Yuri Yuriev

[Magnus Lewan]

Excellent job! Was it a lot of work? It would be interesting if one
easily could get http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/nihongo/enamdict.gz as
well.

Cheers
Magnus

--
http://lewan.chez-alice.fr/

[Kyrie1965]

It was not easy, but it was done.

ENAMDICT for Apple Dictionary (sreenshots):
http://yuriev.info/j1.jpg
http://yuriev.info/j2.jpg

Will post link in this thread after I upload dictionary.

P.S. I found 2 bugs in enamdict source.

--
Yuri Yuriev

On 10 дек, 15:35, "Magnus Lewan" <magnus.le...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Excellent job! Was it a lot of work? It would be interesting if one
> easily could gethttp://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/nihongo/enamdict.gzas
> well.
>
> Cheers
> Magnus
>

[Joe Wicentowski]

Very impressive, Yuri,

ENAMDICT is an enormously useful resource. I've used WordLookup to
access EDICT and ENAMDICT (and CEDICT, though I find that less useful
than Wenlin). Seeing as these sources are all updated often, it would
be really helpful and a great service if you could write up directions
for 'building' these dictionaries so we can update them in the future
if needed.

Thanks,
Joe

[Kyrie1965]

ENAMDICT for Apple Dictionary:
http://rapidshare.com/files/76047199/ENAMDICT.zip.html

On 11 дек, 17:43, Kyrie1965 <Yuri.Yur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It was not easy, but it was done.
>

> ENAMDICT for Apple Dictionary (sreenshots):http://yuriev.info/j1.jpghttp://yuriev.info/j2.jpg

[Kyrie1965]

Joe, i will think about it. I can post 2 tools (and its sources) to
generate Apple Dictionary source XML files for CEDICT and ENAMDICT.

On 11 дек, 19:09, "Joe Wicentowski" <joe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Very impressive, Yuri,
>
> ENAMDICT is an enormously useful resource.  I've used WordLookup to
> access EDICT and ENAMDICT (and CEDICT, though I find that less useful
> than Wenlin).  Seeing as these sources are all updated often, it would
> be really helpful and a great service if you could write up directions
> for 'building' these dictionaries so we can update them in the future
> if needed.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
>

[Magnus Lewan]

Perfect! Спасибо a million!

240M! It's about the same size as an episode of Dr. Who I just
recorded from television. But enamdict is more entertaining!

Cheers
Magnus

[Andrew Main]

Kyrie1965 group wrote:

> I can post 2 tools (and its sources) to generate Apple Dictionary
> source XML files for CEDICT and ENAMDICT.

I know very little about this, but if it's some kind of XML file
that's needed, I wonder if it might be possible to adapt the
"Dictionary of Chinese Buddhist Terms" of Soothill and Hodous for use
with the Apple Dictionary? An "XML Source" file is downloadable:
<http://www.hm.tyg.jp/~acmuller/soothill/soothill-hodous.html>

Andrew Main

[Dav-id]

This is really great!

I use dictionary all of the time and now that I can check meaning for
Chinese directly from it is so useful!

Thanks

[Kyrie1965]

CEDICT for Apple Dictionary (v1.2):
http://www.yuriev.info/CEDICT.zip

What's New:

- Added pinyin with tone marks (Pinyin to Unicode Converter (C) 2002
Konrad Mitchell Lawson)
- Added Mandarin voice soundset ( http://www.chinese-lessons.com/ )
- New CC-CEDICT database (MDBG 2007-12-16)

[Patrick]

Thanks so much! I haven't been reading this list in a long time, and
hadn't previously been able to figure out how to use CEDICT properly.
Quite cool, and a motivator for me to boot into Leopard rather than
Tiger.
Any chance a dictionary of classical Chinese can be made available in
this Apple Dictionary friendly format?
Happy Festivus (as the folks at Nisus say)!
J Patrick Draine

[Joe Wicentowski]

Yuri - Let me second Patrick's thanks for your work on the CEDICT for
Apple Dictionary. v1.2 works very nicely.

Patrick - I imagine it's possible but would require a freely available
text-file-based classical Chinese dictionary, which I'm not aware of.
Do you know of any?

- Joe

[Phil Tseng]

Amazing - thanks so much!

[Phil Tseng]

Hey quick question - Can this also go from English to Chinese? Thanks
again!

On Dec 26, 10:41 pm, Phil Tseng <tse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Amazing - thanks so much!

[Kyrie1965]

Phil, if you know a good quality English to Chinese database with
source (plain text, XML, etc.) - dictionary source like CEDICT, i can
compile it for Apple Dictionary.

[Phil Tseng]

I guess I'm just thinking of the way WordLookup reads the CEDICT
files. It is able to go both ways. Can that also be done with
Dictionary, using the same CEDICT database?

[mkengel]

Hello,
can your dictionary building be automated for servers ?
If yes, could we eventually use your script ?
Is such a dictionary in a binary form ?

We make daily updates of our
Free Chinese-German Dictionary HanDeDict.
http://chdw.de
in a variety of formats

Thank you
Michael

[Jean Soulat (Smarthanzi.net)]

Hello,

I am not sure I understand the discussion about XML and formats. I
have developed two websites for Chinese and Japanese from the same
sources (I have just sent a separate post on this group about www.smarthanzi.net
and www.smartkanji.net on Mac). My understanding is that Yuri's
development is a standalone application for Mac, which is another
option. I am working on PC and have no Mac, so I cannot try it.

Compared to a website, a standalone application can be used offline
and has better response times. The main drawback is that the user has
to download updates on a regular basis to keep up-to-date.

XML is a very convenient format for developers at the cost of bigger
file size. In the case of applications based on EDICT or CEDICT type
files, I see no benefit in using XML: the text files are easy to use
(for the developer) and quicker to download (for the user). XML should
be preferred only when there is a good reason to do so:

1) JMDict (Japanese Multilingual Dictionary, available in XML)
supports different languages and provides more complete information
than EDICT.

2) Soothill and Hodous' Dictionary of Chinese Buddhist (also available
in XML) also provides detailed infos which could hardly be contained
in the EDICT or CEDICT format. Moreover, since it holds long
explanations for each Chinese word, the XML overhead is small in
percentage.

3) I believe that XML might be helpful for HanDeDict since there are
some valuable addtitional fields for each word: (u.E.), (S), (Chem),
(Int), (Dialect), (Geo), etc. Unless I missed something, there is no
formal documentation about these fields, and one has to parse the
translation if one wishes to capitalize on them. My view is that a XML
version of HanDeDict with a formal access to these fields would be
welcome.

Best wishes,
Jean

[Kyrie1965]

That is it...

English-Chinese Dictionary Pack v1.0 for Apple Dictionary
http://www.filefactory.com/file/2e1d05

Langdao English-Chinese Dictionary (Traditional Chinese)
Lazy Worm English-Chinese Dictionary (Traditional Chinese)
Babylon English-Chinese (Simplified Chinese)
Babylon English-Chinese (Traditional Chinese)

Just unzip into the "/Library/Dictionaries" folder.

Screenshot:
http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=44258015ax7.png

[王龍駒]

On Tue, Jan 22, 2008, Yuri wrote:

> That is it...
>
> English-Chinese Dictionary Pack v1.0 for Apple Dictionary
> http://www.filefactory.com/file/2e1d05
>
> Langdao English-Chinese Dictionary (Traditional Chinese)
> Lazy Worm English-Chinese Dictionary (Traditional Chinese)
> Babylon English-Chinese (Simplified Chinese)
> Babylon English-Chinese (Traditional Chinese)
>
> Just unzip into the "/Library/Dictionaries" folder.

Just to clarify, before I go in and muck something up, is this still
limited to Leopard (10.5)?

.

[Kyrie1965]

Yep, 10.5 only.

[Steven Paul Day]

Thanks so much Yuri! Just wondering if these dictionaries all somehow
supplement one another, or if using a select combination (Langdao and
Babylon, for example) would generally suffice? Can we get more
information about the dictionaries somewhere as well?

[Jacky]

Is it possible to get Babylon German Chinese and Chinese German?

regards
Jacky

On Jan 22, 12:59 pm, Kyrie1965 <Yuri.Yur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That is it...
>

> English-Chinese Dictionary Pack v1.0 for Apple Dictionaryhttp://www.filefactory.com/file/2e1d05

[Kyrie1965]

Steven, you are welcome.

Langdao and Lazy Word are from StarDict (most popular open source
dictionary for *nix) sources - http://stardict.sourceforge.net/Dictionaries.php
.

Babylon is small dictionary - http://www.babylon.com/dictionary/1262/Babylon-Chinese(S)-English.html
.

They are not supplement each other. You may use only one dictionary if
you need, just select your favourite.

--
Yuri Yuriev

[Kyrie1965]

No, Jacky. Because it's not free (or am I wrong?).

May be you need HanDeDict - http://www.chinaboard.de/chinesisch_deutsch.php
?

[Michael Engel]

> StarDict

> open source dictionary for *nix) sources -
> http://stardict.sourceforge.net/Dictionaries.php

check
http://stardict.sourceforge.net/ChangeLog

"2006.7.7
...
KingSoft PowerWord support. This added 158 dictionaries. The data is
cracked by Dwing(http://free5.ys168.com/?dwing).
..."

cracked = opensource ?

[Kyrie1965]

Michael,
If you know or think that dictionaries was pirated, just do not use
them and warn a possessor of the right(s) about illegal materials.

On 23 янв, 11:47, "Michael Engel" <mken...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > StarDict
> > open source dictionary for *nix) sources -
> >http://stardict.sourceforge.net/Dictionaries.php
>

> checkhttp://stardict.sourceforge.net/ChangeLog

[Steven Paul Day]

Thanks again, Yuri.

I really have started to enjoy using Dictionary in Leopard, especially
the convenience of the popup window. One major issue with it, however,
is that the popup window size remains far too small. Changing the
popup display font is not too difficult (Applications/Dictionary.app/
Contents/ShareSupport/DictionaryPanel.app/Contents/Resources/
PopupStyle.css) but I would like to modify the window size as well
since it invariably involves scrolling to even see the definitions in
Chinese. Any ideas how to do this? (I already checked OSX hints but
found nothing).

I also have been using LiveDictionary,which does not have this issue
with popup window size. I especially like using this application since
it can be modified to load into a variety of applications simply by
adding their bundle identifiers to the plunin manager bundle. Hitting
a hot key then provides popup definitions from the CEDICT database.
The drawbacks to using LD are having to add bundle identifiers to hack
other applications and the fact that in certain applications
(NetNewsWire, for example), it does not parse things as well as
Apple's Dictionary. So I would like to use Dictionary more if the
popup window size problem can be resolved.

Steven

On Jan 23, 3:21 am, Kyrie1965 <Yuri.Yur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Steven, you are welcome.
>
> Langdao and Lazy Word are from StarDict (most popular open source

> dictionary for *nix) sources -http://stardict.sourceforge.net/Dictionaries.php
> .
>
> Babylon is small dictionary -http://www.babylon.com/dictionary/1262/Babylon-Chinese(S)-English.html

[Jacky]

wow at first I didn't know there was a popup window feature like
instant lookup.
Thx Steve for reminding me, now the Apple Dictionary is almost
perfect.
But I also like to know how to get a larger window.
Shortcut for Lookup in Dictionary CTRL+CMD+D.

[Steven Paul Day]

You're very welcome, Jacky. The keyboard shortcut for Dictionary can
also be customized. Go to System Preferences > Keyboard and Mouse >
Keyboard shortcuts. I changed mine to F7, which makes it easy to look
up things.

[Kyrie1965]

Steven, there is no problem :).

http://rapidshare.com/files/74178112/DictionaryPanel.zip.html

There is very usefull modified application DictionaryPanel.app in
archive that has increased size of the PopUp translate window. It is
located at the "/Applications/Dictionary.app/Contents/SharedSupport"
folder. You can access this folder through right clicking the
Dictionary.app and choosing the "Show the package content". Replace
the original DicrttionaryPanel.app with new one and do not forget
Logout ang Login your computer. Before doing so please archive the
original Dictionary.app (or DictionatyPanel.app) for safety if you
would like to restore initial conditions.

New app has effect only on English or Russian localizations.

Screenshot:
http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=91569558ny4.png

[Steven Paul Day]

Brilliant Yuri! Although the Dictionary.app popup is slightly slower
than LiveDictionary, the parsing is superior. It also seems that
LiveDictionary will not continue further development, so it's
reassuring to know there's a viable alternative out there already.
Now, if one could just add a Services feature to copy selected search
terms to a lexicon......

Thanks again for your help.

PS FYI, it took me two attempts to download this file.

[Eric Okorie]

Yuri,
This is very cool. Thank you so much!!

I am also working on the Chinese-English Dictionary for Apple
Dictionary, however; since you have completed most of the work in that
area I will probably introduce a Web Service that will allow you to
link to my Chinese Translation Tool in the same way we can link to
Wikipedia. What do you think?

I will post the links that are directly related to this discussion and
idea:

List of Features: http://www.primezero.com/chinese/features.php
Mac OS X Dashboard Widget: http://code.google.com/p/pzphp/wiki/PZDashboardWidget

Made on a Mac. ;-)

Best Regards,

Eric

On Jan 23, 1:25 am, Kyrie1965 <Yuri.Yur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, Jacky. Because it's not free (or am I wrong?).
>

> May be you need HanDeDict -http://www.chinaboard.de/chinesisch_deutsch.php

[Conal]

Is there anyway to make all those Apple Dictionaries (including the
CEDICT) appear in Apple's dictionary widget? I find it easier using
the widget than having to click to the dock to get the dictionary.

Thanks!

[Steven Paul Day]

If you're running Leopard you could try Dashcode to create widgets.
For more information, go here:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html#ical

In Safari 3, you can also make a clipping of an online dictionary
search field and create a widget. This is obviously much easier, but
I've had some mixed results with MGBG as a widget dictionary in
Dashboard.

[Judith M. Amory]

On Sun Jan 27 4:22 , Steven Paul Day <stevenp...@gmail.com> sent:

>On Jan 26, 1:06 pm, Conal cona...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is there anyway to make all those Apple Dictionaries (including the
>> CEDICT) appear in Apple's dictionary widget? I find it easier using
>> the widget than having to click to the dock to get the dictionary.
>>
>> Thanks!

All of the dictionaries including CEDICT appear in the dictionary widget supplied with Leopard -- I didn't do anything special.

Judy Amory (jam...@speakeasy.net

[Conal]

Oh you are right! They do appear in the dictionary widget. I had to
select on the large "Dictionary" word to change the dictionary
selection. I didn't realise that was a button itself. Well, seems like
my problem is solved! Thanks!

On Jan 27, 5:01 am, Judith M. Amory <jam...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> On Sun Jan 27  4:22 , Steven Paul Day <stevenpaul....@gmail.com> sent:

[Conal]

I have another issue.

I followed the post to change the font-size of the Pop-up panel for
Dictionary and it works. However, the English font size now is too
large for my taste. Is there a way just to increase the font size of
Chinese text (or the Chinese dictionary) but not the English text (or
English dictionary)? The default font size is 8 which is perfect for
English but too small for Chinese. Font size 12 is great for Chinese
but too big for English.

Thanks!