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Iyashi
Sep 20, 2016, 7:54:23 PM9/20/16
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Hello everyone,
Case study help please.
6yo Water boy. Difficulty with First Time Listening. Things need to be repeated multiple times for him to hear you. But if under a firm and structured environment, he will begin to respond sooner. Tends to daydream, has body awareness issues as well. Getting OT for proioceptive issues (doesn't register info through the joints) and body awareness issues. Clumsy, worse when tired. Very picky eating, will even gag at certain textures. But poops very healthily and regularly. If he goes to bed after 7:45pm, he wakes up too early (5-5:30am). Still needs regular naps but can't get it during school so he falls apart by latter end of week if mother doesn't stay on top of putting him to bed by 6-6:45pm. Very bright and social, musically talented, but when overwhelmed gets very attitude-y, like a teenager. Talks back a lot. Catches cold easily. Runs hot, and even more at night, night sweating. Must have water at side of bed and will wake up just to drink water. Pale dusky tongue, no coat. Thready slippery pulse.
So much going on, I can't pinpoint if it's primarily SP issue or KD issue. Being a Water child, I don't know how much of this is a water imbalance and how much is SP and some LV. How would you treat this child, esp herbs? Help and thanks!
Luriko
Sent from my phone, excuse the brevity and any typos.
Case study help please.
6yo Water boy. Difficulty with First Time Listening. Things need to be repeated multiple times for him to hear you. But if under a firm and structured environment, he will begin to respond sooner. Tends to daydream, has body awareness issues as well. Getting OT for proioceptive issues (doesn't register info through the joints) and body awareness issues. Clumsy, worse when tired. Very picky eating, will even gag at certain textures. But poops very healthily and regularly. If he goes to bed after 7:45pm, he wakes up too early (5-5:30am). Still needs regular naps but can't get it during school so he falls apart by latter end of week if mother doesn't stay on top of putting him to bed by 6-6:45pm. Very bright and social, musically talented, but when overwhelmed gets very attitude-y, like a teenager. Talks back a lot. Catches cold easily. Runs hot, and even more at night, night sweating. Must have water at side of bed and will wake up just to drink water. Pale dusky tongue, no coat. Thready slippery pulse.
So much going on, I can't pinpoint if it's primarily SP issue or KD issue. Being a Water child, I don't know how much of this is a water imbalance and how much is SP and some LV. How would you treat this child, esp herbs? Help and thanks!
Luriko
Sent from my phone, excuse the brevity and any typos.
Efrem Korngold
Sep 21, 2016, 12:46:00 PM9/21/16
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If this 6 year old boy is truly a Water child, the constitutional ke triad is Water - Fire -Earth. Sensitivity to textures in the mouth corresponds to Fire and the Heart - a form of hypersensitivity in contrast to the hyposensitivity of his large muscles and joints. Picky eating is a very common characteristic of Water children, and, in my view, not an abnormality, except, in this case, as it relates to oral hypersensitivity.
Water children tend to have less body awareness than other children as well as less clock time awareness, since their inner life tends to dominate their consciousness. But, he could also be a Fire child with a weakness in the Water aspect of the Fire Triad: Fire-Metal-Water. Also, developmentally, he may be “stuck” in the Water stage and not fully progressed into the Wood and Fire stages - where does he stand developmentally? Are his teeth developing normally? Height and weight? Hair, muscle development, balance? You say he’s awkward, Water children do tend to be less coordinated at an early age than other types. Water children like to do things at their own pace, their own rhythm, one thing at a time. Overwhelming them with too much information or too many jobs at once causes them to “dig in their heels” and push back or retreat. Talking back can also be a way of voicing his own point of view rather than attacking that of his parents or teachers. Boys like this do well by engaging in physical disciplines like yoga, judo, aikido, ping pong, surfing, anything that get them into their physical bodies.
Getting overheated at night is a sing of Fire-Water, Yin-Yang, imbalance. Water Seeker is a good formula to consider for this boy at this time. Yin nourishing foods are also important: juicy fruits and vegetables, good fats and oils, pork and lightly cooked eggs.
Luriko Ozeki
Sep 21, 2016, 1:31:25 PM9/21/16
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Hi Efrem,
You pretty much described this boy to a T. His mother thinks he's more Fire b/c he is very outgoing and social and loves to dance and sing, but the boy thinks he's Water (based on reading Stephen's book together with his mother) as do I.
To answer your questions:
He was slightly slow in the walking as an infant, but all others developed normal to normal-late. He is big from birth - 8lbs at birth and continues to be on the taller/larger end of his age group. Hair is soft, curly, not too thick, not too thin. Muscles are poor tone, but parents are working on it (described below). Balance easily gets off and more so when he's tired. Literally trips the moment he starts to get tired. Teeth developing normally, none have come out yet. Very Water body, pudgy, and like a buddha when he was a baby. He is doing capoeira (Brazilian martial arts) and OT with daily OT homework to build muscle strength and fine motor strength, which both have helped him a lot to get more in his body.
Now that you mentioned being stuck in Water stage, that resonates with me. I will try the Water Seeker, and encourage mother to give him more good fats/oils, pork as the others she provides.
Thank you again Efrem.
Best regards,
Licensed adult and pediatric acupuncturist
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Efrem Korngold
Sep 21, 2016, 3:25:09 PM9/21/16
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Yes, I think it would be good to start with Water Seeker. But, then, at some point you want to move him into the developmental stage of Wood, which is all about developing physical strength and coordination and proprioceptive awareness of his body in space. When you’re at that point with him, think of switching to Wood Builder….for sure, this will be apparent once his permanent teeth start to come in (emergence of permanent teeth is the culmination of the first Water stage of development).
Efrem
Stephen Cowan
Sep 22, 2016, 1:22:18 PM9/22/16
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Luriko, I agree with Efrem here....the unbalanced water triad presents with a disharmony in engaging in back and forth conversation. From a developmental standpoint, 6years old is the beginning of the second developmental cycle, the second Water stage ....so a water kid in a water stage may easily get stuck there and yes it can look and sound like a little teenager. One of the important developmental milestones skills he needs to make this year is what's called "theory of mind" the idea that other people have different points of view and ideas....it's critical to social awareness, confidence and connection. The synchronization (conversation) that needs support is between listening (kidney), processing (spleen) and speaking (heart) and requires attention to all three organ networks. Choose your points accordingly. Water-seeker directly addresses these. the physical activity (wood) is extremely important here in unlocking the developmental path and promoting greater body awareness and presence. cultivating one strong solid friendship (earth) is equally important. get him cooking too!
When he is a little older, (over 7) he might need to have a auditory processing assessment to rule out Central auditory processing Disorder (CAPD)
best,
steve
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Luriko Ozeki
Sep 22, 2016, 2:33:39 PM9/22/16
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Thank you very much Stephen for your input.
You've also hit it in the nail. This boy's weakness right now is the listening and processing. He's excellent at communicating. But how you describe it really makes it easy to understand - and explain - the critical connection of synchronization.
I have gone ahead and prescribed Water Seeker and will treat accordingly.
Because the boy is smart, he is beginning to see that he is behind other kids in class and in his martial arts, so he's starting do to the "I'm stupid!" talk. It breaks my heart. I hope this input from you and Efrem will help the mother and I be able to support this boy and pivot him into the Wood phase and onward so that he can survive and thrive in a very Wood society.
Thank you again.
Best regards,
Licensed adult and pediatric acupuncturist
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