Mageta's Replacement

[Cupkeyk]

If Mageta dies (or if Randall says that he is no longer relevant to the plot, which I hope is soon), I am replacing him with Mordant. Wiz na kurr sa party optimization, I miss being wizard; bahala na si Batman since kaya lang naman ako nagdefender ay para mapuno yung slot—hindi ako masaya maging defender… nobody cares about party role optimization, so why should I?   I like the coincidence that House Phiarlan’s symbol is a hydra and Mordant weapons are made from the venom and digestive juices of a Mordant Hydra.  Heck I even named him after the hydra. Lolz.   This build completes at 11 with preemptive strike against Poison Immunity with Venom Hand Master at level 14. Level 16 will have Improved Tome of Readiness for Illusory wall every encounter. Yummy.   I could use some help optimizing purchases.   ******************************************************** Mordant d'Phiarlan, level 14 Eladrin, Wizard, Phiarlan Phantasmist Arcane Implement Mastery: Tome of Readiness Background: Adventurer's Scion (Adventurer's Scion Benefit)   FINAL ABILITY SCORES Str 10, Con 14, Dex 15, Int 22, Wis 19, Cha 14.   STARTING ABILITY SCORES Str 9, Con 13, Dex 12, Int 16, Wis 15, Cha 14.     AC: 27 Fort: 22 Reflex: 26 Will: 27 HP: 76 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 19   TRAINED SKILLS Arcana +20, Diplomacy +14, Dungeoneering +16, Insight +16, Nature +16, Religion +18   UNTRAINED SKILLS Acrobatics +9, Athletics +7, Bluff +9, Endurance +9, Heal +11, History +15, Intimidate +9, Perception +11, Stealth +9, Streetwise +9, Thievery +9   FEATS Wizard: Ritual Caster Level 1: Mark of Shadow Level 2: Arcane Implement Proficiency (Dagger) Level 4: Versatile Expertise (Light Blade/Dagger) Level 6: Superior Weapon Proficiency (Accurate Dagger) Level 8: Poison Inured Level 10: Phantom Echoes (Retrained to Persistent Poison at level 11) Level 11: Spell Focus Level 12: Acolyte of the Veil Level 14: Venom Hand Master   POWERS Tome of Readiness: Color Spray Wizard at-will 1: Thunderwave Wizard at-will 1: Winged Horde Wizard encounter 1: Grasping Shadows Wizard daily 1: Horrid Whispers Wizard daily 1 Spellbook: Sleep Wizard utility 2: Shield Wizard utility 2 Spellbook: Memory to Mist Wizard encounter 3: Hypnotic Pattern Wizard daily 5: Visions of Avarice Wizard daily 5 Spellbook: Web Wizard utility 6: Refocus Wizard utility 6 Spellbook: Emerald Eye Wizard encounter 7: Twists of Space Wizard daily 9: Visions of Ruin Wizard daily 9 Spellbook: Summon Succubus Wizard utility 10: Illusory Wall Wizard utility 10 Spellbook: Repelling Shield Wizard Encounter 13: Illusory Assailant   ITEMS Torc of Power Preservation +3, Shimmering Feyweave Cloth +3, Mordant Silvered Accurate Dagger +3, Illusionist's Gloves, 12,800GP   RITUALS Comrade’s Succor, Unseen Servant, Brew Potion, Enchant Magic Item, Dark Light, Disenchant Magic Item, Linked Portal   ********************************************** Implement attacks with accurate dagger at +18.   Sources of Save Penalties: Spell Focus (Feat): Wizard Attacks Mindfire(Phiarlan phantasmist feature): Charm, fear, illusion, or psychic attacks Persistent Poison (Feat with Mordant weapon property): Poison Attacks Illusionist's Gloves: Illusion attacks with CA   Dailies (with keywords) with Save Penalties Horrid Whispers (Arcane, Illusion, Implement, Acid, Poison) Save Penalty 6, 8 with CA Visions of Avarice (Arcane, Illusion, Implement, Zone) Save Penalty 4, 6 with CA Visions of Ruin (Arcane, Fear, Illusion, Implement, Zone, Acid, Poison) 6, 8 with CA "sabi nga ng nanay ko: ang nasusunog, gumugulong!"

[Cupkeyk]

Lolz, i was told by the CO boards that the assassin MC feat grants me the use of any weapon i am proficient with as an implement and that one can use an implement one is proficient with with any power with the implement keyword. I freed up one feat slot.   And unlike what i had thought that persistent poison has a prereq of poison inured, it doesn't. I freed up another slot. Gosh.   Two Feat slots freed. Yay. This build can actually start playing immediately at level twelve. Yipeeeee.   I looked up mordant in wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordant its latin for bite.

Mordant d'Phiarlan, level 14

Eladrin, Wizard, Phiarlan Phantasmist

Arcane Implement Mastery: Tome of Readiness

Background: Adventurer's Scion (Adventurer's Scion Benefit)

FINAL ABILITY SCORES

Str 10, Con 14, Dex 15, Int 22, Wis 19, Cha 14.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES

Str 9, Con 13, Dex 12, Int 16, Wis 15, Cha 14.

AC: 25 Fort: 21 Reflex: 24 Will: 25 HP: 68 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 17   TRAINED SKILLS Arcana +18, Diplomacy +13, Dungeoneering +14, Nature +14, Religion +16, Stealth +13   UNTRAINED SKILLS Acrobatics +8, Athletics +6, Bluff +8, Endurance +8, Heal +9, History +13, Insight +9, Intimidate +8, Perception +9, Streetwise +8, Thievery +8   FEATS Wizard: Ritual Caster

Level 1: Mark of Shadow

Level 2: Acolyte of the Veil

Level 4: Versatile Expertise (Light Blade/Dagger)

Level 6: Superior Weapon Proficiency (Accurate Dagger)

Level 8: Venom Hand Master

Level 10: Phantom Echoes (Retrained to Persistent Poison at level 11)

Level 11: Spell Focus Level 12: Improved Tome of Readiness    POWERS

Tome of Readiness: Color Spray

Improved Tome of Readiness (Daily): Horrid Whispers Improved tome of Readiness (Utility): Illusory Wall Wizard at-will 1: Thunderwave

Wizard at-will 1: Winged Horde

Wizard encounter 1: Grasping Shadows

Wizard daily 1: Horrid Whispers

Wizard daily 1 Spellbook: Sleep

Wizard utility 2: Shield

Wizard utility 2 Spellbook: Memory to Mist

Wizard encounter 3: Hypnotic Pattern

Wizard daily 5: Visions of Avarice

Wizard daily 5 Spellbook: Web

Wizard utility 6: Refocus

Wizard utility 6 Spellbook: Emerald Eye

Wizard encounter 7: Twists of Space

Wizard daily 9: Visions of Ruin

Wizard daily 9 Spellbook: Summon Succubus

Wizard utility 10: Repelling Shield Wizard utility 10 Spellbook: Illusory Wall

Wizard Encounter 13: Illusory Assailant

ITEMS Talisman of Terror +3, Magic Feyweave Cloth +3, Mordant Silvered Accurate Dagger +3, Illusionist's Gloves, 4,800GP

[randall angala]

akala ko cup was keeping maggie? --- On Fri, 9/3/10, Cupkeyk <cup...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Neal Janvier Saveron]

If cuppkeys is playing wiz, I'll bring Stingray in...

[Dong]

if cupkeyk brings in a wiz, wala nang defender ang party.
although if neal brings in stingray, we might not need one.
kaso wouldn't two frostcheesers seem redundant? besides andaling i-
metagame ni gandalf yan lolz.
think i should take out kitty na din and just bring in a pally? para
may healer na din?

sorry gandalf. parang wer ditching the story mid-telling. but think of
it as end of act I.
it is the perfect opportunity to introduce new characters and plot
hooks.
pero understandable naman ung feeling na di mashado trip ng player na
redundant na sya wen another character of the same class is introduced
diba?
so since parang domino effect nangyari, di na maiiwasang magkaron ng
shuffling. let me know your thoughts and decisions.
wala sana resentment - kasi this is all in fun naman. masaya gumawa ng
character. but i love kitty and i want to keep playing her.
trippings lang. lakbay diwa habang sabog. fun.

what do you gais think? palit ako ng character? paki-peach na din.
prince endymion, dark childe of selene and the sleeper.
code name: black-winged roses

"Such ugly meanies trying to steal the light of youthful love...In the
name of the moon, I have come to punish you!"
his challenges will be delivered by a black rose. area attack nya
would fill the air with black feathers. woot!
his attacks are directed against the heart and soul of his foes
(psychic).
he keeps the heart of a star, given to him by his mother, close to his
(shard of radiance - which he does not use).
he rides umbralufia, an obsidian steed - real cool-like and sekshi.
aiee kakkoieee! ayos ba? ayos ba?


====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Black-winged Roses, level 13
Half-Elf, Paladin, Hospitaler
Build: Protecting Paladin
Versatile Expertise: Versatile Expertise (Heavy Blade)
Versatile Expertise: Versatile Expertise (Holy Symbol)
Background: Auspicious Birth (Auspicious Birth Benefit)

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 11, Con 17, Dex 14, Int 9, Wis 18, Cha 20.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 14, Dex 13, Int 8, Wis 15, Cha 15.


AC: 31 Fort: 22 Reflex: 23 Will: 24
HP: 107 Surges: 14 Surge Value: 26

TRAINED SKILLS
Religion +10, Intimidate +16, Endurance +10, Diplomacy +18

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +4, Arcana +5, Bluff +11, Dungeoneering +10, Heal +10,
History +5, Insight +12, Nature +10, Perception +11, Stealth +4,
Streetwise +11, Thievery +4, Athletics +2

FEATS
Level 1: Group Defense
Level 2: Mark of Warding
Level 4: Power of the Moon
Level 6: Versatile Expertise
Level 8: Mettle Proven
Level 10: Devoted Paladin
Level 11: Psychic Lock
Level 12: Honored Foe

POWERS
Dilettante: Demoralizing Strike
Lay on Hands: Lay on Hands
Paladin at-will 1: Enfeebling Strike
Paladin at-will 1: Virtuous Strike
Paladin encounter 1: Valorous Smite
Paladin daily 1: Majestic Halo
Paladin utility 2: Bless Weapon
Paladin encounter 3: Avenging Smite
Paladin daily 5: Radiant Delirium
Paladin utility 6: Wrath of the Gods
Paladin encounter 7: Price of Cowardice
Paladin daily 9: Ray of Reprisal
Paladin utility 10: Benediction
Paladin encounter 13: Castigating Strike (replaces Avenging Smite)

ITEMS
Adventurer's Kit, Iron Armbands of Power (heroic tier), Siberys Shard
of Radiance (heroic tier), Heavy Shield, Symbol of the Champion's Code
+3, Bloodiron Gith Plate Armor +3, Healer's Brooch +2, Githyanki
Silver Longsword +3, Headband of Intellect (heroic tier), Obsidian
Steed (heroic tier)
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[Vincent Coscolluela]

Ang daya nyo. Gawa nalang ako warden kung ganyan, hehe.

[Dong]

sinabi na ngang wala sanang resentment lolz kuleht.
tara post it - shoot the shitty breeze wif me. ano design cues nya?
skarr - son of hulk? toph - metal bending mastuhr? ano pa ba cool
warden tropes?
the mighty mightor? lolz.

anong race ba gawin mo? goliath? warforged? ano pa? ano pa?
post din ung iba! lolz.

[Cupkeyk]

Sinong may resentment?   i am just not happy with a fighter. its a good enough controller but i do the same thing every round. mark immobilize/prone. over and over. magbago man pangalan ng moves ko it does the same thing.   nabobore lang ako with hitting people with my big stick and flipping them around and waiting for my hp to drop enough so i can heal myself.   I haven't laughed maniacally in ages. every session I feel like i am waiting for something to happen and I realized mageta is not built that way. he's a dumb fighter. he hits people with sticks. that's his job.   But that's not me.   i made whaitiri kasi its was more plot involved. dragon marked heir, good social skills but he's even more redundant in combat. zap zap, push, prone.   Its not you, its me. lolz.   dati nga pinagpapaalam ko pa kay neal na hihiramin ko si sarek, kasi i miss playing wiz and laughing maniacally with my pinky sticking out.   so ayun. i resolve to take my happiness bu the horns. i am playing wiz.

[Cupkeyk]

Regarding Black-winged Roses(recycled name?) anyhoot, isn't the radiant combo dependent on a deva racial feat? Or you are taking deva heritage later for radiant recovery? Works wonders with Gith silver sword. Immortality!

[Joel Donato Jacob]

>if cupkeyk brings in a wiz, wala nang defender ang party.
>although if neal brings in stingray, we might not need one.
>kaso wouldn't two frostcheesers seem redundant? besides andaling i-
metagame >ni gandalf yan lolz.
>think i should take out kitty na din and just bring in a pally? para
may >healer na din?

Diba dong ikaw na nagsabing screw party optimization? Let's just play a
race and class combination we know we can commit with and screw
meta-building.

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[Joel Donato Jacob]

Wait I am confused. Bakit psychic damage? With radiant? Nasaan yung
combo?

[Dong]

> Diba dong ikaw na nagsabing screw party optimization? Let's just play a
> race and class combination we know we can commit with and screw
> meta-building.

bwehehe. honga no. well antagal na ding naka-tengga ni endymion e
lolz.
and i want to use the name bwr na din.
na-prove na din naman natin na kaya ng party kahit kulang.
but think about it. why would the party hire another wiz if the wiz
they had was doing fine? or another frost-cheeser for that matter?
lolz.
wouldn''t the mere existence of the other guy, bring to surface deep-
seated inadequacy issues? bwahahaha. joke. basta you get what i mean.

atsaka di sha gumagamit ng radiant combo - which by the way i don't
know - may radiant shard lang sha na suot on a chain.
i fluff it as the heart of a star - or going by sailor moon mythos, a
star seed. maybe to remind him of home or something. could be a plot
hook.
hinahabol ng witches because they want the star to make them young
again. and maybe the star turns into a girl under special
circumstances.
who knows. lolz.

[Joel Donato Jacob]

Akala ko nga you were using a radiant weapon with a radiant shard to
pump temp HP with all your attacks.

Yun din nga yung rationality ko dati. The corporation concept. Why would
a party hire a suboptimal character? Why would they fill in the HR
officer's role twice?

But that's metaparty building.

Look at Harry Potter's party. It's an all wiz party.

The g-Aang has three druids and one fighter.

What matters is FUN. :D

So if you are sure you will have fun with Endymion, play him.

I know you want a darker than black/sailormoon character; so its cool.

[Dong]

Level 4: Versatile Expertise (Light Blade/Dagger)

btw - how'd you get the CB to do that? was trying to get this for
ren's sorc din pero kailangan 2 diff weapliments e. so nag staff/
dagger na lang sha.
bakit di ka nalang nag implement expert light blade if you don't want
to mordant to be an expert in 2 weapliments?

[Cupkeyk]

I editted it manually, kasi sabi ni neal sa text niya. hahahaha. It was originally just Implement expertise(Dagger)

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Whoa?  I never edited anything… I just said you can select two weapon class, but apparently, the other one seem to be for an implement class lang.

 

 

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[Cupkeyk]

Sa text sabi mo you should remove implement/weapon expertise. Stupid CB doesn't want to cooperate so i just editted manually. But it doesn't really affect Mordant since he would be stupid to try to hit anything with his pointy stick.

[Dong]

quote:

"Look at Harry Potter's party. It's an all wiz party.

The g-Aang has three druids and one fighter.

What matters is FUN. :D"

yeah fun fo sho but lest we forget the other dude.
harry pota is an all wiz party - ayus yun pag pinagusapan nating all-
wiz party.
tapos kina aang - di sila nagsapawan ng racket - except for the chosen
one which everyone secretly resented.
yung party nung mga keso na lolo may 2 dun na firebenders - pero di
naman sila long-running adv grp.
parang one-time big-time lang. lets pwn ba sing sei. gets mo what im
trying to say?

sabi nga ng brilliant gameologists, if you're not into crossing
streams with another dood, buy out.
speaking for myself nalang - as a player with equal buy-in into this
reality we're shaping, pag di ko feel diba?
siempre pwede mo i-voice out and/or attempt to rectify the sitch.
getsh?

[Joel Donato Jacob]

Not really. Mageta was never a defender. He was a walking zone. That's
what I built him for. Sarek can duplicate everything he does in combat
with visions of avarice. That's not the class' fault. Its my fault
because I never really wanted a defender anyway. I wanted a controller.
Aminan lang. Inaamin kong ayaw ko ng defender and did badly with
Mageta's failed attempt at a one dimensional controller. Having admitted
that, I am dumping it and going for what I really want, which is a
controller. Now I get to do what mageta does (Visions of Avarice) and a
whole bunch of other shit; Illusory wall juggle, action denial with
visions of Ruin, debuff.

So kanya-kanya na lang. Party optimization means that someone will be
obligated to do a role they aren't happy with.

Look at a really optimized party in Avatar. Azula as
controller(blaster), Mei as leader(disable), Tai-Li as striker(single
target control, SoL effects). Optimized nga sila and they were pretty
unstoppable, but it broke down because Taili can't handle the negativity
and Mei didn't like Azula bossing her around. Party dynamic isn't what
looks good on paper, its what's effective on the battle field.

[Neal Janvier Saveron]

bakit di ko mahanap yung power of the moon?

And dong, why do you have 2 level 13 items? :P

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[Cupkeyk]

Its a domain feat. Baka hindi ka divine character kaya hindi mo mapili. Page 116 ng Divine power.   Dong is making a paladin version of a a Very Vicious Mocker. Kung may Very Vicious Mocker this would mean a single enemey will need a 20 to hit all the time. Actually, penalties pa lang ni black winged roses is a -6 na.

[Dong]

wak na ingay neal. ayaw ni endymion mag dwarven plate e.
de-leveled yan from lv 14 binura ko lang belt of vim.
kitty 4 life na nga lang ako.