New way to transcribe song lyrics?

[Lulu]

Hi! My transcribers just brought to my attention that the new CHAT manual changed the way how song lyrics should be transcribed from the previous manual. Specifically, instead of marking a whole utterance as a verse in a song with a symbol at the beginning and the end of the verse respectively, now the transcriber would need to add a symbol AFTER EACH WORD. The new way seems very labor-intensive. Is that right? Why the change? If it has to be done that way, is there any method to make it easier for the transcriber?

Any insights or tips would be appreciated. Thanks!

Lulu Song

[Brian MacWhinney]

Dear Lulu,

     I can't think of any change at any point that was specifically about marking songs.  I think perhaps you are referring to a change made three years ago in the method for marking quotations.  If that is what you are referring to, then there is indeed an easy way of marking that a whole utterance is a quotation.  This is to precede the utterance with +"   Is that possibly what you might be referring to?

-- Brian MacWhinney, Teresa Heinz

Professor of Cognitive Psychology,

Computational Linguistics, 

and Modern Languages, CMU

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[Lulu]

Dear Brian,

Thanks for your reply! You are right -- I double checked the manual and found that the parts about songs and singing remained the same in the latest manual. My transcriber thought one part was taken out but was apparently mistaken.

She used to transcribe lyrics in two ways:

<lyrics> [=! singing]

@si

But I think you just provided a third way (as quotations) which may be more preferable. The manual also mentioned of treating large chunks as regular speech and put singing in comments. If we are transcribing the morning meetings in preschool classrooms, which way do you think would be the best way to transcribe the singing of the teacher and children?

Thanks again!

Best,

Lulu

On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 7:48:16 PM UTC-5, macw wrote:

Dear Lulu,

     I can't think of any change at any point that was specifically about marking songs.  I think perhaps you are referring to a change made three years ago in the method for marking quotations.  If that is what you are referring to, then there is indeed an easy way of marking that a whole utterance is a quotation.  This is to precede the utterance with +"   Is that possibly what you might be referring to?

-- Brian MacWhinney, Teresa Heinz

Professor of Cognitive Psychology,

Computational Linguistics, 

and Modern Languages, CMU

On Feb 21, 2020, at 5:29 PM, Lulu <lulu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi! My transcribers just brought to my attention that the new CHAT manual changed the way how song lyrics should be transcribed from the previous manual. Specifically, instead of marking a whole utterance as a verse in a song with a symbol at the beginning and the end of the verse respectively, now the transcriber would need to add a symbol AFTER EACH WORD. The new way seems very labor-intensive. Is that right? Why the change? If it has to be done that way, is there any method to make it easier for the transcriber?

Any insights or tips would be appreciated. Thanks!

Lulu Song

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[Brian MacWhinney]

Dear Lulu,
Thanks for re-checking this. The one thing you probably want to avoid is marking every word in a song with @si. That would mess up all sorts of other analysis programs. Using +” at the beginning of each line of song works fine, unless you are really concerned with noting that the material is a song. I imagine it is pretty clear in most cases. If you really want to emphasize that a given stretch of lines is a song, then you could use the <lyrics> [=! singing] format. If they are very long songs and you need to analyze them specifically, you could even use Gem markers.

-- Brian MacWhinney

Teresa Heinz Professor of Cognitive Psychology,
Computational Linguistics,
and Modern Languages, CMU

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[Lulu]

Thank you so much, Brian! This is really helpful.

Best,

Lulu

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