Web hosting inquiry
Cuthbert Thistlethwaite
All of a sudden, I need to put up a web site, which I haven't done in
years and years.
When I google for hosting in Chicago and look at the sites that come up,
it all sounds like a lot of nonsense. Plus, they're not all in Chicago,
which I asked for. It appears web hosting operations are grossly
overstating the case for their businesses, to the point that I don't
know what they're talking about.
A server company that I pay for a shell account, and where I log onto
the server and make my directories, and then ftp my files to it, is all
I want. And modify my files with vi right on the server.
That's it. No consultants, no web "tools," no bull.
In the 90s there were plenty of these server services right here in
town, though I sure can't remember any names. Not one single name in
the phone book is at all familiar, either.
I looked up Ripco which people seem to like. Kenji has a site there but
it just says "hi." I called Ripco three times, hours apart, but their
answering machine was on all day.
Any suggestions?
kenji
Cuthbert Thistlethwaite <nosil...@myface.net> wrote:
> Kenji has a site there but
> it just says "hi."
I paid consultants $4000.00 for that in 1999.
Adam H. Kerman
>Any suggestions?
Yeah. Email Bruce directly instead of calling them.
After editing your code, don't forget to validate it.
http://validator.w3.org/
Here's an argument for composing in XHTML
http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/notes/xhtml.html
I tried converting some existing pages to xhtml+xml but it was painful.
There may be no reason not to write new pages in it.
kenji
"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> Here's an argument for composing in XHTML
what if he's just uploading some JPG's of a gay party from this past
weekend where they are drinking mojito's and prancing around in orange
colored feathered boa's?
core
Why does it have to be in Chicago?
I use HostPC for five or six sites. They're cheap, reasonably reliable
and you can ftp stuff there. For a few bucks (one time) you can even
get shell.
No, they're not in Chicago, but so what?
Cuthbert Thistlethwaite
"Adam H. Kerman" wrote:
> Yeah. Email Bruce directly instead of calling them.
OK I'll try. When the answering machine was on all day long, sad things
like swine flu came to mind.
> After editing your code, don't forget to validate it.
> http://validator.w3.org/
Thank you.
> Here's an argument for composing in XHTML
> http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/notes/xhtml.html
> I tried converting some existing pages to xhtml+xml but it was painful.
> There may be no reason not to write new pages in it.
No thanks to code fights. It will be HTML and CSS.
This will be a text site, with information and lobbying around a couple
of specific issues. It already exists but it sucks and needs to be
fixed.
Cuthbert Thistlethwaite
kenji wrote:
> what if he's just uploading some JPG's of a gay party from this past
> weekend where they are drinking mojito's and prancing around in orange
> colored feathered boa's?
Sorry, he's not.
But I wish I had that image of you in speedos from 70 years ago. I'd
link that for sure.
Cuthbert Thistlethwaite
core wrote:
> >Any suggestions?
> Why does it have to be in Chicago?
> I use HostPC for five or six sites. They're cheap, reasonably reliable
> and you can ftp stuff there. For a few bucks (one time) you can even
> get shell.
Thanks, I will look at HostPC.
> No, they're not in Chicago, but so what?
I am a small-minded, parochial person and support local suppliers, given
the choice.
kenji
Cuthbert Thistlethwaite <nosil...@myface.net> wrote:
back then:
i was hot
i was busy
kenji
Cuthbert Thistlethwaite <nosil...@myface.net> wrote:
bruce's stuff is nice if the price is right and you get the add-ons you
need
I might get picked on for this but godaddy has been fine for me for
domain hosting too. I've worked on and had real simple shit on godaddy.
Cydrome Leader
I still do hosting, 1990s style. mail me.
Bruce Esquibel
> I looked up Ripco which people seem to like. Kenji has a site there but
> it just says "hi." I called Ripco three times, hours apart, but their
> answering machine was on all day.
Yeah, we don't do "phone" anymore.
After the dialup service, which used to take the most manpower for support,
got down to a handful of people, we started to rely on email and live chat
and it's been fine. I mean with nearly 99% of other users getting
connectivity from somewhere else, getting a hold of us other than phone is a
trivial matter.
I think we're up your alley with what you are looking for, shell with vi,
ftp and direct access to the web directories from there, so email me if
interested.
I really don't think there are others anymore, I mean Xnet and Onshore are
still around (maybe) but went into more money making ventures than dealing
with end customers. I mean stuff like data centers, networks and colocation.
Not to slap you around but if you would of left a message on the vm, someone
would of gotten back to you. We don't ignore it (the phone) but it isn't
worth paying anyone to answer it live anymore.
Actually since last year when the economy tanked I was getting sick and
tired of the endless sales calls from vendors starting to panic. I'm not
joking, there was one day in december we received like 19 calls asking about
what our needs will be for the following year.
Anyway I don't think you'll find much bad press about us, we do put a lot of
effort in keeping the system running in tip-top shape and probably have the
oldest client base of most, many have been around for 10 years plus.
We own everything we operate.
-bruce
b...@ripco.com
kenji
barbie gee <boo...@nosespam.com> wrote:
> > i was a hot midget
>
> fixed yer post
jealousy will get you no where
kenji
Bruce Esquibel <b...@ripco.com> wrote:
> probably have the
> oldest client base of most
I'm only 49
Todd H.
> Anyway I don't think you'll find much bad press about us, we do put a lot of
> effort in keeping the system running in tip-top shape and probably have the
> oldest client base of most, many have been around for 10 years plus.
>
> We own everything we operate.
>
> -bruce
> b...@ripco.com
Bruce/Ripco rocks. End of story. Good karma supporting them to
boot.
--
Todd H.
http://toddh.net/
Gregory Morrow
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, kenji wrote:
>
>> i was a hot midget
>
> fixed yer post
Heehee, barb...
--
Best
Greg
Cuthbert Thistlethwaite
Thank you.
Sadly, even as I was asking for this information yesterday, the geniuses
in the company who want me to help them with this web site were busy
signing up with some GoDaddy business which, today, I learned provides
for ftp file transfers but no vi editor. I want a vi editor because you
can make changes and adjustments, and see them as fast as you can
re-read the browser.
I was trying to be quick to get a host supplier, but wasn't quick enough
to beat the know-it-alls.
Damn.
Cuthbert Thistlethwaite
Cydrome Leader wrote:
> I still do hosting, 1990s style. mail me.
Thanks but the company already signed up for something (GoDaddy),
proving once again that people who don't put much thought into things
can move really fast.
kenji
Cuthbert Thistlethwaite <nosil...@myface.net> wrote:
changes and adjutments to what files that might be hosted on godaddy?
Geoff Gass
they may have a web editor that lets you edit the files directly
Adam H. Kerman
You can still use their domain registration services. It's a good idea
not to use the same company for Web hosting and domain registration. You
don't want them to fuck you over on everything.
I get a kick out of registrars that redirect error traffic within
domains that you own to their own 404 ads, which can sometimes be pr0n.
Whenever I'm given a URL of www.example.invalid, I look to see if
example.invalid works to reduce future typing. We've gotten away from
the common use of subdomains for email addresses, but we're still using
virtual hosts for Web pages? That's specious.
Adam H. Kerman
>Thank you.
>Sadly, even as I was asking for this information yesterday, the geniuses
>in the company who want me to help them with this web site were busy
>signing up with some GoDaddy business which, today, I learned provides
>for ftp file transfers but no vi editor. I want a vi editor because you
>can make changes and adjustments, and see them as fast as you can
>re-read the browser.
>I was trying to be quick to get a host supplier, but wasn't quick enough
>to beat the know-it-alls.
>Damn.
That tells you that they don't want your help, that they know better.
You're out of it.
kenji
"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> We've gotten away from
> the common use of subdomains for email addresses, but we're still using
> virtual hosts for Web pages?
who is "we"?
Adam H. Kerman
>>We've gotten away from
>>the common use of subdomains for email addresses, but we're still using
>>virtual hosts for Web pages?
>who is "we"?
You're no longer using ke...@imamoron.didntpaymyripcobill.invalid, are
you, as an email address?
kenji
core
Or should be.
Bruce Esquibel
>>That tells you that they don't want your help, that they know better.
>>You're out of it.
> Or should be.
It is pretty weird with some behind the scenes shit.
We have a company/group with us now, which if I'm counting correctly, is on
the 3rd return visit.
They started hosting here 8-9 years ago, got someone who convinced them
things were better elsewhere, left for a year, came back, stayed another
year, left, came back again.
The problem is in most cases there is a hysteria or enthusiasm in the
beginning of the project that wears out eventually. People leave to do other
things, else get bored with the whole thing and fade away. Then something
goes wrong or needs to be changed and you get that deer in the headlights
look when they are trying to figure out what to do.
At first you think it's big corporate crap but I've seen it with little
associations and businesses with just 4 or 5 people making up the whole
company. Some of them have to get it done overnight for no reason other than
they have to, else it's six months of shopping around, having meetings,
taking votes, and still can't make their minds up.
-bruce
b...@ripco.com
Adam H. Kerman
>>Or should be.
Nothing like being a sole proprietor, is there.
Chicago Paddling-Fishing
>All of a sudden, I need to put up a web site, which I haven't done in
>years and years.
>When I google for hosting in Chicago and look at the sites that come up,
>it all sounds like a lot of nonsense. Plus, they're not all in Chicago,
>which I asked for. It appears web hosting operations are grossly
>overstating the case for their businesses, to the point that I don't
>know what they're talking about.
>A server company that I pay for a shell account, and where I log onto
>the server and make my directories, and then ftp my files to it, is all
>I want. And modify my files with vi right on the server.
>That's it. No consultants, no web "tools," no bull.
>In the 90s there were plenty of these server services right here in
>town, though I sure can't remember any names. Not one single name in
>the phone book is at all familiar, either.
>I looked up Ripco which people seem to like. Kenji has a site there but
>it just says "hi." I called Ripco three times, hours apart, but their
>answering machine was on all day.
>Any suggestions?
Ripco is good... my site was done with nothing but vi and got good ratings
back when we had time to often update it...
vi, a digital camera and a summasketch are all you need for a typical website.
--
John Nelson
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