Microcenter

[Mark Anderson]

Had to stop by Microcenter today.

Gone are the $99 refurb special desktops (at least today).

The Samsung tablet I bought 2 years ago on sale for $185 is now $115.
It hasn't improved much over mine but probably runs the latest OS.
Samsung keeps asking me to upgrade but Mark never upgrades OS on current
hardware -- especially upgrades to firmware because Mark doesn't like
turning his perfectly working device into a door stop and having to buy
another one.

They turned the games section which used to be part of the book section
into a mini Radio Shack. Arduinos, Pis, Beagle boards, transistors,
soldering irons, all kinds of stuff for the kid who wants to be the next
Steve Wozniak (Jobs was only the marketing guy).

[Bruce Esquibel]

Mark Anderson <m...@nospambradnylion.com> wrote:

> They turned the games section which used to be part of the book section
> into a mini Radio Shack. Arduinos, Pis, Beagle boards, transistors,
> soldering irons, all kinds of stuff for the kid who wants to be the next
> Steve Wozniak (Jobs was only the marketing guy).

Yeah but at least they are trying, look where Radio Shack is today.

Keep in mind when MC opened (1997/98?), the computer market was totally
different from today. They need to keep changing shit to get people in the
door.

I'm not a gamer but it's obvious from posts, news articles and feeds that
the game market is mostly "online" these days. I don't quite get what Steam
is, but it's obvious it's some pay to play system. That and all the console
machines that only work over the net. With all that going on, I can't see
where carrying them in a store works anymore.

Maybe MC is trying to take a stab at Fry's, although I haven't been out to
the one in Downers Grove (or wherever the hell it is) in a while, last time
I was there they had a couple aisles dedicated to loose "parts". Seems like
a waste of floor space but who knows.

And along the same lines, unless I hit my head pretty hard and didn't
realize it, I swear I saw a Menards commerical advertising mattresses. You
know, the ones you sleep on.

I know it's an uphill battle for them to compete with Home Depot and Lowes
but mattresses?

-bruce
b...@ripco.com

[core]

Hey Bruce,

You didn't know you can buy a mattress at Tiger Direct ?

Everybody sells mattresses.

[Mark Anderson]

In article b...@ripco.com says...

> Yeah but at least they are trying, look where Radio Shack is today.
>
> Keep in mind when MC opened (1997/98?), the computer market was totally
> different from today. They need to keep changing shit to get people in the
> door.

Remember Handy Andy? They tried to charge me $108 for a 12 pack of
fluorescent tube bulbs because the cashier thought it was $8/bulb
instead of $8/12 pack. Had to get a manager to figure that out.

Microcenter hasn't changed much since they opened. After a few years
opening they became a better deal for a lot of things than that monthly
COD computer fair. Do they still do that?

> I'm not a gamer but it's obvious from posts, news articles and feeds
that
> the game market is mostly "online" these days. I don't quite get what Steam
> is, but it's obvious it's some pay to play system. That and all the console
> machines that only work over the net. With all that going on, I can't see
> where carrying them in a store works anymore.
>
> Maybe MC is trying to take a stab at Fry's, although I haven't been out to
> the one in Downers Grove (or wherever the hell it is) in a while, last time
> I was there they had a couple aisles dedicated to loose "parts". Seems like
> a waste of floor space but who knows.

I'm not a gamer either. I was looking for PS2 games in some bargain bin
but now PS3 are the bargain platform. Microcenter used to have those
bargain bins of random stuff that you could spend a lot of time looking
through for something you might need and get it cheap. They don't do
that anymore.

Microcenter always had Raspberry Pis and Arduino stuff but this was
quite an expansion. If I were a lot younger or had young kids it would
be interesting to play with these kits and learn how to build a robot
and program embedded systems.

> And along the same lines, unless I hit my head pretty hard and didn't
> realize it, I swear I saw a Menards commerical advertising mattresses. You
> know, the ones you sleep on.
>
> I know it's an uphill battle for them to compete with Home Depot and Lowes
> but mattresses?

Menards carries Purina One dog food. I always feel funny buying dog
food and socks there.

[smr]

People who refer to themselves in the third person are absolute cock
goblins.

--
smr

[smr]

Steam is the primary (and original) online source for games, you just
buy them there and download them instead of having to sneak a big box
that screams "I just spent $60!" past the wife.

I game rarely, so I appreciate not having to dig up a box or a CD and
find a serial key and all that 90's bullshit when I do get the urge to
play something.

--
smr

[Mark Anderson]

In article m...@shawnritchie.com says...

> People who refer to themselves in the third person are absolute cock
> goblins.

Is the cock goblin related to the cock robin?

[Cydrome Leader]

Bruce Esquibel <b...@ripco.com> wrote:
> Mark Anderson <m...@nospambradnylion.com> wrote:
>
>> They turned the games section which used to be part of the book section
>> into a mini Radio Shack. Arduinos, Pis, Beagle boards, transistors,
>> soldering irons, all kinds of stuff for the kid who wants to be the next
>> Steve Wozniak (Jobs was only the marketing guy).
>
> Yeah but at least they are trying, look where Radio Shack is today.
>
> Keep in mind when MC opened (1997/98?), the computer market was totally
> different from today. They need to keep changing shit to get people in the
> door.

Yeah, MC was known in my circles for having a really badass computer book
section when it opened. I still have piles of computer books at the desk,
mostly because removing them would make make the pile collapse.

> I'm not a gamer but it's obvious from posts, news articles and feeds that
> the game market is mostly "online" these days. I don't quite get what Steam
> is, but it's obvious it's some pay to play system. That and all the console
> machines that only work over the net. With all that going on, I can't see
> where carrying them in a store works anymore.
>
> Maybe MC is trying to take a stab at Fry's, although I haven't been out to
> the one in Downers Grove (or wherever the hell it is) in a while, last time
> I was there they had a couple aisles dedicated to loose "parts". Seems like
> a waste of floor space but who knows.
>
> And along the same lines, unless I hit my head pretty hard and didn't
> realize it, I swear I saw a Menards commerical advertising mattresses. You
> know, the ones you sleep on.
>
> I know it's an uphill battle for them to compete with Home Depot and Lowes
> but mattresses?

Menards is pretty batshit crazy with stuff like that. Hell, they did have
a mountain of canning wax in the middle of Feb. I'd get a mattress from
menards over one of those sketchy foreign places with the ratty mattress
in dirty plastic bags propped up on the sidewalk as some sort of "proof"
they really sell mattresses.

The local Menards now sells tampons, vitamins and eye drops. I got the
eyedrops as they were cheaper than from walgreens. They also had bar soap,
but not ivory, so I was dissapointed.

They're really got all bases covered. The only thing you need to leave
their store for to purchase are airline tickets, shows, wigs, bowling
balls and maybe spiral cut ham.

[Geoff Gass]

there seems to be a sleepy's on every damned corner lately

> The local Menards now sells tampons, vitamins and eye drops. I got the
> eyedrops as they were cheaper than from walgreens. They also had bar soap,
> but not ivory, so I was dissapointed.
>
> They're really got all bases covered. The only thing you need to leave
> their store for to purchase are airline tickets, shows, wigs, bowling
> balls and maybe spiral cut ham.

which one is next? my bets are bowling balls or spiral cut ham

[Adam H. Kerman]

Bruce Esquibel <b...@ripco.com> wrote:

>And along the same lines, unless I hit my head pretty hard and didn't
>realize it, I swear I saw a Menards commerical advertising mattresses. You
>know, the ones you sleep on.

>I know it's an uphill battle for them to compete with Home Depot and Lowes
>but mattresses?

Menards has always sold eclectic stuff. The copy of a classic duck-hunting
jacket that I wear every fall and spring was an article of clothing I
purchased there, same with the carpenter's pants that have saved my legs
when I'm outside on bitter cold days.

I love Menards. Home Depot has been vile ever since they decided that they
could run a warehouse store without stock clerks and cashiers. Lowes is
just ok. At Menards, I can always find someone who can answer a question.

[Adam H. Kerman]

I had to write a report over the weekend in which I referred to myself
in the third person throughout. It sounded completely idiotic.

[smr]

The only person who doesn't sound like a cock goblin while doing this is
Ricky Henderson.

--
smr

[Cydrome Leader]

they probably have ham, just not spiral cut. Not sure what the "shows" in
my last post was supposed to be, maybe shoes?

[Brent]

Menards buys closeouts and odd lots on the wholesale level. This is
where much of their odd stuff comes from. However these days it's
looking like a number of things they found they can sell well enough are
becoming regularly stocked items at the bigger stores.

[Mark Anderson]

In article a...@chinet.com says...

> I had to write a report over the weekend in which I referred to myself
> in the third person throughout. It sounded completely idiotic.

Your arresting officer made you write his report?

[Geoff Gass]

my guess was theater tickets

[Michele]

You should check out the Menard's on Oakton in Morton Grove.

[Geoff Gass]

they have spiral cut ham?

[Michele]

I've bought bacon there before. is that close enough?

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

Your first raspberry pi one is only $.99 (at least it was earlier in the
month when I got one at MC).

I like MC and have purchased several macs from there and a number of windows
laptops for the kids for going away to college. Its a little annoying with
the sticker stuff, but otherwise, not a bad place to shop.

--
John Nelson
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[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

They still have bargan bins (well, more like tables).

>Microcenter always had Raspberry Pis and Arduino stuff but this was
>quite an expansion. If I were a lot younger or had young kids it would
>be interesting to play with these kits and learn how to build a robot
>and program embedded systems.

They have some quadcoptor stuff in that area too, lots of kids enjoy playing
with them.

>> And along the same lines, unless I hit my head pretty hard and didn't
>> realize it, I swear I saw a Menards commerical advertising mattresses. You
>> know, the ones you sleep on.
>>
>> I know it's an uphill battle for them to compete with Home Depot and Lowes
>> but mattresses?

>Menards carries Purina One dog food. I always feel funny buying dog
>food and socks there.

Menards carries kayaks too...

[Crawford Sausage Company]

I have my eye on a $1000 model but will wait a few years for
the price to come down. The el cheapo drones they sell are cheap
plastic toys.

[dye]

In article <ns7sgu$1th$2...@remote5bge0.ripco.com>,

....and Sprecher regular and low-cal root beer!

--Ken


--
Ken R. Dye an optimist is a guy |
Chicago, Illinois that has never had |
http://dye.datsun510.com/index1.html much experience |
dye1146 at g mail dot com archy |

[Geoff Gass]

was up in milwaukee last month and did the tour. couple of random things:
1. Menards is their biggest retailer
2. the only reason they have root beer is because back when they only had beer
and had started tours, they had nothing for kids to drink after the tour except
a water fountain. the owner saw some kids disappointed while parents had free
samples (which apparently were self-service and unlimited back then). he'd
been playing with a root beer recipe and decided to make some for the tours.
that leads to:
3. root beer now outsells all other products (all beers and the other sodas)
combined 3-to-1.

[Michele]

Their restaurant in Lake Geneva ain't half-bad either.

[dye]

In article <slrnnuom7...@ftupet.ftupet.com>,

And thru Oct 1st, you can get a 4-pack of 16oz botttles for $2.50!!

(the jewels charges $3.99)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzyp_TBTkjQXY1gtYUJyMThnSFk/view?usp=sharing

Did not know about (1.). They have quite a variety of Sprecher rootbeers,
colas, gingerales, etc. etc.....

--Ken

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

Does your still sell green pvc ammo cans? Mine stopped and I do use them
and Harbor Freights are more gray which just doesn't match the old pile.

[Cydrome Leader]

Are you a prepper?

[dye]

In article <ns7sgu$1th$2...@remote5bge0.ripco.com>,
Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:

My big MC bargin bin score was circa 1998...someone had returned a Palm
Pilot 7, which was better than the Palm 5 I went to buy, but also
*included wireless celluar*. The people who returned it had
activated a data plan and it worked wireless for free for about a
year and a half.

Not that it was fast or anything, probably an analog cellular connection,
but this was living large in 1998.

[barbie gee]

Hah!
I'm surprised they didn't cancel the account, but good for you!

I had two different Palm devices, and while they were fun to have, and I
could read my email on them, but looking back at them, boy, were they
clunky compared to our smartphones.

[Max]

On 2017-08-03 16:24:50 +0000, dye said:

> In article <alpine.DEB.2.10.1...@sghcrg.sghcrg.pbz>,
> barbie gee <boo...@nosespam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2017, tert in seattle wrote:
>>
>>> Cydrome Leader wrote:
>>>> barbie gee <boo...@nosespam.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Jul 2017, dye wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, I can see chi.general finally succumbing to the influx of
>>>>>> non-Chicago related Usenet .K00K rants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But why has chi.eats been relegated to followups to 7 YO threads?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where will I find out where the next (or final) chi.eats gathering?
>>>>>
>>>>> maybe we need to make a chi.eats Facebook group, but then we lose .max and
>>>>> geoff and other people...
>>>>>
>>>>> I dunno what the answer is.
>>>>
>>>> keep the chat going on in here.
>>>
>>> I heard Harold's was acquired by Sonic
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What???
>>
>> That's a weird combo.
>
> http://la.eater.com/2017/7/11/15953536/harolds-chicken-shack-chicago-expansion-hollywood-coming
>
>
> Nothing about sonic in the article.
>
> --Ken

That's pretty epic. Kudos.

[Cydrome Leader]

Maybe somebody here can remind me about all of this.

What the hell was a palm even for? I don't recall anybody who ever had one
being able to explain what it really did other than looks real stupid
hanging off an belt next to a two way pager. I don't recall them even
having "basic functionality" like being able to exchange "electronic
business cards" or anything like that by pointing them at each other.

Even those silly watches you'd link to your computer by letting the screen
flash made more sense.

[Geoff Gass]

I never had one that wasn't also a phone (the Treo line). That one had early
smart phone stuff on it. It was much easier to deal with contacts than on the
flip/candybar phones of the day. Calendar too. IIRC, it had a crappy email
client. From there I went to a Nokia 9300. Symbian, did okay with email, had
an ssh client, etc. Then it was Android from there.

[Don Seeley]

At the time I had my Palm 5 I was traveling a lot for work and used it
to keep track of my calendar & schedule and track expenses. I also
played solitaire and a couple of other games on flights and had a
couple of good Japanese practice apps.

As Barb said, I thought it was the shit at the time. By today's
standards it was slightly better than a wax tablet and a pointy stick.

--
Don Seeley
dschi at seeleyart.com
http://www.seeleyart.com

[Cydrome Leader]

I didn't even know there were telephone (AMPS?) enabled versions. Still
seems like a worthless product.

One of the more fun non-networked devices I had was thinkpad and a Fujitsu
tablet computer. The fujitsu was a full-out 386 with windows 3.1 and
PenDOS and/or stylus software for windows. Laplink was pretty much the
only way to get data on and off the thing.

[Michele]

I will never forget when I first noticed one of the carriage drivers
from another company wearing a Bluetooth headpiece with the blue blinky
light on it. He had a Palm phone and it made him look even more like the
douchebag he was.

[tert in seattle]

I got a Palm III from work in 1998 or thereabouts. It had some infrared way
of communicating with other Palm III's but I don't remember ever using that
feature. I used it for playing games and taking notes. The Palm script was
easy to learn and note taking wasn't too cumbersome. It had a backlight so
you could see the LCD screen in the dark. It also had a flip cover that made
it great for pretending you were on the USS Enterprise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_III

[David W. Tamkin]

kristian...@gmail.com wrote in
<slrn3vfsot8eu9.dug...@sdf.lonestar.org>:

| back in the day (99-06?),

That's not "back in the day." It's barely even yesterday.

[Michele]

On 10/4/2017 2:11 PM, Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:

> Hush, old man.
>


So, how old are the kids you're braising these days?

[David W. Tamkin]

kristian...@gmail.com wrote in
<slrn3vfsotacjp.pgn...@norge.freeshell.org>:

| Hush, old man.

What's that you say? Can't hear you. Left my earhorn at home.

[Michele]

On 10/7/2017 5:26 PM, Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:

> Feminine child is 8, masculine child is 6, with a birthday coming soon.
>


As Kenji said, time goes fast when you have kids.

[Cydrome Leader]

Kristian M Zoerhoff <kristian...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sheeeeeit.
>
> My wife worked for 3Com back in the day (99-06?), so I cycled through a Palm
> III, a IIIc (color screen!), a V, and a Sony Clie (their licensed clone of a
> Palm that, of course, used Memory Stick instead of SD). Man, fuck Sony sideways.
>
> You could beam certain data between units via IR, but it was wonky as fuck.
> Syncing it in a corporate environment was a challenge, but I do recall getting
> it to work with Lotus Notes (yeesh) when I was at IBM.

Back to my old question. What the fuck were you (or anybody really) even
syncing? Buzzord bingo terms? Did those piece of shit even do some sort of
off-line POP mail? I stil have zero understanding of why nerds used those
things.

[Geoff Gass]

word

[Michele]

Yours has to be closing in on 10, no?

[Geoff Gass]

yep, coupla months shy of 10.

[dye]

In article <oof96t$4i2$2...@reader2.panix.com>,

Mobiltex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobitex

Palm VII: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_VII

Retailed for $600? $15/month data plan? That was the MicroCenter
bargin bin find of the century!

[dye]

In article <orhdon$fv7$3...@reader2.panix.com>,

A pretty detailed contact list. Calendar. Todo/shopping list. Email.
Text documents, usually stuff you entered on your PC via typing or
pasting, and pushed on to the handheld for offline reading.

[Michele]

Le sigh.

[barbie gee]

and I remember when YOU were one of the youngsters around here...

[barbie gee]

On Sat, 7 Oct 2017, Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:

> Feminine child is 8, masculine child is 6, with a birthday coming soon.

Time sure flies, huh?

[barbie gee]

On Sat, 14 Oct 2017, dye wrote:

> In article <orhdon$fv7$3...@reader2.panix.com>,
> Cydrome Leader <pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>> Kristian M Zoerhoff <kristian...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> My wife worked for 3Com back in the day (99-06?), so I cycled through a Palm
>>> III, a IIIc (color screen!), a V, and a Sony Clie (their licensed clone of a
>>> Palm that, of course, used Memory Stick instead of SD). Man, fuck Sony
>> sideways.
>>>
>>> You could beam certain data between units via IR, but it was wonky as fuck.
>>> Syncing it in a corporate environment was a challenge, but I do recall getting
>>> it to work with Lotus Notes (yeesh) when I was at IBM.
>>
>> Back to my old question. What the fuck were you (or anybody really) even
>> syncing? Buzzord bingo terms? Did those piece of shit even do some sort of
>> off-line POP mail? I stil have zero understanding of why nerds used those
>> things.
>
> A pretty detailed contact list. Calendar. Todo/shopping list. Email.
> Text documents, usually stuff you entered on your PC via typing or
> pasting, and pushed on to the handheld for offline reading.

Yup, and back then it seemed like more than enough data transferring, huh?

[dye]

In article <alpine.DEB.2.10.1...@sghcrg.sghcrg.pbz>,
barbie gee <boo...@nosespam.com> wrote:
>
>

Indeed. That, and at the time I was working for U.S. Robotics, which
acquired Palm, so everyone had one!

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

Mark Anderson <m...@nospambradnylion.com> wrote:
>Had to stop by Microcenter today.

>Gone are the $99 refurb special desktops (at least today).

>The Samsung tablet I bought 2 years ago on sale for $185 is now $115.
>It hasn't improved much over mine but probably runs the latest OS.
>Samsung keeps asking me to upgrade but Mark never upgrades OS on current
>hardware -- especially upgrades to firmware because Mark doesn't like
>turning his perfectly working device into a door stop and having to buy
>another one.

>They turned the games section which used to be part of the book section
>into a mini Radio Shack. Arduinos, Pis, Beagle boards, transistors,
>soldering irons, all kinds of stuff for the kid who wants to be the next
>Steve Wozniak (Jobs was only the marketing guy).

Bob Dole probably doesn't update Bob Dole's hardware either...

--
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[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

The sidekick (from Danger Inc) made a great replacement for Palm. Not quite
a smartphone, but close enough to put a lot of distance between it and Treo.

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

Cydrome Leader <pres...@mungepanix.com> wrote:
>Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
>> Brent <tetraethylle...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>On 2015-02-23, Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>>>> Cydrome Leader <pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

>>>>> Bruce Esquibel <b...@ripco.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Mark Anderson <m...@nospambradnylion.com> wrote:
>>>>>>

>>>>>>> They turned the games section which used to be part of the book section
>>>>>>> into a mini Radio Shack. Arduinos, Pis, Beagle boards, transistors,
>>>>>>> soldering irons, all kinds of stuff for the kid who wants to be the next
>>>>>>> Steve Wozniak (Jobs was only the marketing guy).
>>>>>>

>>>>>> Yeah but at least they are trying, look where Radio Shack is today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keep in mind when MC opened (1997/98?), the computer market was totally
>>>>>> different from today. They need to keep changing shit to get people in the
>>>>>> door.
>>>>>

>>>>> Yeah, MC was known in my circles for having a really badass computer book
>>>>> section when it opened. I still have piles of computer books at the desk,
>>>>> mostly because removing them would make make the pile collapse.

>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not a gamer but it's obvious from posts, news articles and feeds that
>>>>>> the game market is mostly "online" these days. I don't quite get what Steam
>>>>>> is, but it's obvious it's some pay to play system. That and all the console
>>>>>> machines that only work over the net. With all that going on, I can't see
>>>>>> where carrying them in a store works anymore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe MC is trying to take a stab at Fry's, although I haven't been out to
>>>>>> the one in Downers Grove (or wherever the hell it is) in a while, last time
>>>>>> I was there they had a couple aisles dedicated to loose "parts". Seems like
>>>>>> a waste of floor space but who knows.
>>>>>>

>>>>>> And along the same lines, unless I hit my head pretty hard and didn't
>>>>>> realize it, I swear I saw a Menards commerical advertising mattresses. You
>>>>>> know, the ones you sleep on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know it's an uphill battle for them to compete with Home Depot and Lowes
>>>>>> but mattresses?
>>>>>
>>>>> Menards is pretty batshit crazy with stuff like that. Hell, they did have
>>>>> a mountain of canning wax in the middle of Feb. I'd get a mattress from
>>>>> menards over one of those sketchy foreign places with the ratty mattress
>>>>> in dirty plastic bags propped up on the sidewalk as some sort of "proof"
>>>>> they really sell mattresses.
>>>>
>>>> there seems to be a sleepy's on every damned corner lately
>>>>
>>>>> The local Menards now sells tampons, vitamins and eye drops. I got the
>>>>> eyedrops as they were cheaper than from walgreens. They also had bar soap,
>>>>> but not ivory, so I was dissapointed.
>>>>>
>>>>> They're really got all bases covered. The only thing you need to leave
>>>>> their store for to purchase are airline tickets, shows, wigs, bowling
>>>>> balls and maybe spiral cut ham.
>>>>
>>>> which one is next? my bets are bowling balls or spiral cut ham
>>
>>>Menards buys closeouts and odd lots on the wholesale level. This is
>>>where much of their odd stuff comes from. However these days it's
>>>looking like a number of things they found they can sell well enough are
>>>becoming regularly stocked items at the bigger stores.
>>
>> Does your still sell green pvc ammo cans? Mine stopped and I do use them
>> and Harbor Freights are more gray which just doesn't match the old pile.

>Are you a prepper?

Nope, but I used to drink Dr. Pepper...

Waterproof containers are useful for little computers, especially since
computers tend to not like getting wet...

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

Data... the goal is to never type the same thing twice... which included
backing up your contacts so if you reset the device they weren't all lost
although even back when I had the Franklan eBookman, I recall using a USB
cable to sync contacts back and forth (it had contacts and note taking
apps on it too and was pretty cheap back in 99 or so).

[Cydrome Leader]

Still just not getting it.

Why the hell would you backup a contact list on a device bigger than an
phone of the era?

Here's what it comes down to.

palm pilots were completely stupid devices for stupid people.

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

They weren't stupid... they were much better than little scraps of paper kept
inside your pocket protector so you could move them easily from shirt to
shirt each morning...

Back then you just didn't have the digital bandwidth (actually I think it was
still analog signals at that time... when I worked at Motorola cellular in the
80's it was all analog). Syncing with a USB cable in the 90's was a lot more
reliable than syncing with a watch flashing at a tube screen.

[Cydrome Leader]

Scraps of paper in pocket protectors? I think I've found the problem here.

> Back then you just didn't have the digital bandwidth (actually I think it was
> still analog signals at that time... when I worked at Motorola cellular in the
> 80's it was all analog). Syncing with a USB cable in the 90's was a lot more
> reliable than syncing with a watch flashing at a tube screen.

USB at any point in the 1990s was far less reliable than aiming a watch at
a 14" CRT.

Is this a website you maintain?

http://www.faughnan.com/palm.html

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

I would tend to disagree. Perhaps you were syncing usb devices using a cable
that had been cut?

>Is this a website you maintain?

>http://www.faughnan.com/palm.html

Not I (opted not to visit it)... The sidekick was a neat device too in its
day, but these days I prefer android.

[Cydrome Leader]

yeah, that was it. Every usb cable was cut. It had nothing to do with
every old implementation of USB chipsets being defective in addition to
none of the drivers working properly, and that's not even counting the
hardware on the peripheral side of things.

>>Is this a website you maintain?
>
>>http://www.faughnan.com/palm.html
>
> Not I (opted not to visit it)... The sidekick was a neat device too in its
> day, but these days I prefer android.

Were you scared there were 8 bit virues on that site that might cause the
nicad cells in your palm to blow up or something?

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

No doubt some intel USB chipsets were bad (ich5), but it depended on the
device how problematic it became;

My ICH5 worked fine until my M-I-L gave one of the kids a cheap binnocular
camera... then it smoked the motherboard.

http://pages.ripco.net/~jwn/tmp/ich5smoking.jpg

http://pages.ripco.net/~jwn/tmp/ich5hole.jpg

>>>Is this a website you maintain?
>>
>>>http://www.faughnan.com/palm.html
>>
>> Not I (opted not to visit it)... The sidekick was a neat device too in its
>> day, but these days I prefer android.

>Were you scared there were 8 bit virues on that site that might cause the
>nicad cells in your palm to blow up or something?

I've always trusted my anti-virus software.

[barbie gee]

On Mon, 13 Aug 2018, Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

> Cydrome Leader <pres...@mungepanix.com> wrote:
>> Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
>>> Cydrome Leader <pres...@mungepanix.com> wrote:
>>>> Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
>>>>> Cydrome Leader <pres...@mungepanix.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Cydrome Leader <pres...@mungepanix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Kristian M Zoerhoff <kristian...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-09-25, tert in seattle <te...@ftupet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Cydrome Leader wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> barbie gee <boo...@nosespam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 3 Aug 2017, dye wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <ns7sgu$1th$2...@remote5bge0.ripco.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Anderson <m...@nospambradnylion.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article b...@ripco.com says...

Where'd Cydrome Leader run off to, anyway?