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Mark Anderson
Dec 15, 2011, 6:02:11 PM12/15/11
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I was perplexed by the numbers in the article about Sam Hurd in the
Chicago Tribune. According to the Trib, Sam Hurd wanted to move 1000
pounds of pot in Chicago per week. Using my degenerate pothead friend
as a baseline who seems to be stoned a lot, she goes through 1/4 ounce
per month. If she's a typical degenerate pothead and represents an
average user, then Hurd's distribution network would need:
4000 lbs/month * ~50 users/ounce * 16 ounces/lb = 320,000 average users.
Assuming 10% of the population are average users then 320,000 represents
just about the entire Chicago population for pot. How did Sam Hurd
think he was going to do this? It doesn't make sense. According to my
degenerate pothead friend, she said that at $450/pound it's probably
pretty shitty pot that no one in their right mind would waste a lung to
smoke or cook with anyway. I wouldn't know however, I stick to legal
booze.
From: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-report-
bears-receiver-hurd-arrested-on-drug-charges-20111215,0,461077.story
At the Wednesday night meeting, Hurd negotiated to buy five to 10
kilograms of cocaine and 1,000 pounds of marijuana a week for
distribution in the Chicago area, authorities alleged. He agreed to pay
$25,000 for each kilogram of cocaine and $450 a pound for the marijuana,
according to the charges.
Chicago Tribune. According to the Trib, Sam Hurd wanted to move 1000
pounds of pot in Chicago per week. Using my degenerate pothead friend
as a baseline who seems to be stoned a lot, she goes through 1/4 ounce
per month. If she's a typical degenerate pothead and represents an
average user, then Hurd's distribution network would need:
4000 lbs/month * ~50 users/ounce * 16 ounces/lb = 320,000 average users.
Assuming 10% of the population are average users then 320,000 represents
just about the entire Chicago population for pot. How did Sam Hurd
think he was going to do this? It doesn't make sense. According to my
degenerate pothead friend, she said that at $450/pound it's probably
pretty shitty pot that no one in their right mind would waste a lung to
smoke or cook with anyway. I wouldn't know however, I stick to legal
booze.
From: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-report-
bears-receiver-hurd-arrested-on-drug-charges-20111215,0,461077.story
At the Wednesday night meeting, Hurd negotiated to buy five to 10
kilograms of cocaine and 1,000 pounds of marijuana a week for
distribution in the Chicago area, authorities alleged. He agreed to pay
$25,000 for each kilogram of cocaine and $450 a pound for the marijuana,
according to the charges.
Mark Anderson
Dec 15, 2011, 6:09:29 PM12/15/11
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In article m...@nospambradnylion.com says...
shouldn't be drinking beer and doing math in my head at the same time.
> 4000 lbs/month * ~50 users/ounce * 16 ounces/lb = 320,000 average users.
Oops. Bad math. its ~50 users/pound or 200K average users. I
shouldn't be drinking beer and doing math in my head at the same time.
Bruce Esquibel
Dec 16, 2011, 8:13:31 AM12/16/11
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Mark Anderson <m...@nospambradnylion.com> wrote:
> Assuming 10% of the population are average users then 320,000 represents
> just about the entire Chicago population for pot. How did Sam Hurd
> think he was going to do this? It doesn't make sense. According to my
> degenerate pothead friend, she said that at $450/pound it's probably
> pretty shitty pot that no one in their right mind would waste a lung to
> smoke or cook with anyway. I wouldn't know however, I stick to legal
> booze.
My guess is, it's $450 a pound if you are buying 1000 pounds a week.
> Assuming 10% of the population are average users then 320,000 represents
> just about the entire Chicago population for pot. How did Sam Hurd
> think he was going to do this? It doesn't make sense. According to my
> degenerate pothead friend, she said that at $450/pound it's probably
> pretty shitty pot that no one in their right mind would waste a lung to
> smoke or cook with anyway. I wouldn't know however, I stick to legal
> booze.
It's probably the same stuff that sells for $1000-$1200 a pound on the
street. It does seem like it's still low end, appears "the good stuff" is
around $3K a pound depending which stoner website you want to beleive.
I think though, if you want to beleive the quantities (remember those
numbers are from the feds), he must of already had a distro network in
place. Since this thing started last year with one of his cars having 90K in
cash and a bunch of pot in it, he must of had shop set up in Texas already.
One or two contacts with gang members, the quantity might be on track for
major players.
I'm just saying if the numbers are accurate, was probably intended for a
multiple city distribution, not just Chicago.
I dunno anything about the guy or the drug biz, except what I just googled
but when I first heard this story, my gut reaction was he must of thought he
was untouchable. Maybe he figured since he was a NFL player, no one would
believe a rumor he was also a major drug distributor, if rumors started to
leak out.
-bruce
b...@ripco.com
max
Dec 16, 2011, 3:25:06 PM12/16/11
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In article <MPG.295448328...@news.speakeasy.net>,
WTF are you talking about???
A typ user will smoke about 1~2 oz month of shitty mexican. That means
8~20 customers/pound
The more potheads buy in volume, the more they smoke.
So i'm seeing 8,000~20,000 customers/month. The Chicagoland market,
call it the WXRT listening area, can easily absorb that kind of supply.
A typ user will smoke about 1~2 oz month of shitty mexican. That means
8~20 customers/pound
The more potheads buy in volume, the more they smoke.
So i'm seeing 8,000~20,000 customers/month. The Chicagoland market,
call it the WXRT listening area, can easily absorb that kind of supply.
Mark Anderson
Dec 16, 2011, 5:53:51 PM12/16/11
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In article b...@ripco.com says...
involved, the same outfit shutting down web sites, also makes this case
suspicious. Hurd is out on bond so if he's a major playa like those
numbers suggest, the government would have asked for more than $100K
bond. The news suggested there was a list of NFL players involved which
also doesn't make sense. I wouldn't think a major dealer would deal in
small amounts for personal use. Although the facts of this case aren't
out, with ICE involved I tend to think the corruption probably lies with
ICE -- especially the way they're doing mission creep getting into all
kinds of things like policing the Internet that they shouldn't be doing.
Meanwhile the Bears are out a backup receiver and a decent special teams
guy.
> I dunno anything about the guy or the drug biz, except what I just googled
> but when I first heard this story, my gut reaction was he must of thought he
> was untouchable. Maybe he figured since he was a NFL player, no one would
> believe a rumor he was also a major drug distributor, if rumors started to
> leak out.
The numbers make the entire thing sound fishy. That I.C.E agents were
> but when I first heard this story, my gut reaction was he must of thought he
> was untouchable. Maybe he figured since he was a NFL player, no one would
> believe a rumor he was also a major drug distributor, if rumors started to
> leak out.
involved, the same outfit shutting down web sites, also makes this case
suspicious. Hurd is out on bond so if he's a major playa like those
numbers suggest, the government would have asked for more than $100K
bond. The news suggested there was a list of NFL players involved which
also doesn't make sense. I wouldn't think a major dealer would deal in
small amounts for personal use. Although the facts of this case aren't
out, with ICE involved I tend to think the corruption probably lies with
ICE -- especially the way they're doing mission creep getting into all
kinds of things like policing the Internet that they shouldn't be doing.
Meanwhile the Bears are out a backup receiver and a decent special teams
guy.
JG
Dec 16, 2011, 7:35:39 PM12/16/11
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Doubtful, so a ring of second stringers could move dope nation wide
without any hassles. IIRC the Bears charters stop in some corner of
ORD. Hurd's dope was meant for the Benz crowd, not a toker in back of
the 152 bus.
Mark Anderson
Dec 16, 2011, 7:51:21 PM12/16/11
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In article jgro...@hotmail.com says...
meant for the kenji crowd.
> Do the team charter flights get the same xray and TSA treatment ???
> Doubtful, so a ring of second stringers could move dope nation wide
> without any hassles. IIRC the Bears charters stop in some corner of
> ORD. Hurd's dope was meant for the Benz crowd, not a toker in back of
> the 152 bus.
At $450/pound that's not dope meant for the Benz crowd, that's dope
> Doubtful, so a ring of second stringers could move dope nation wide
> without any hassles. IIRC the Bears charters stop in some corner of
> ORD. Hurd's dope was meant for the Benz crowd, not a toker in back of
> the 152 bus.
meant for the kenji crowd.
max
Dec 16, 2011, 8:17:16 PM12/16/11
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In article <MPG.2955b1926...@news.speakeasy.net>,
I watched the whole Miami Vice series this spring. I'm an expert in
this stuff.
I also _had_ a *passing* acquaintance with people who did this shit for
real, back in the 90s.
I realized my numbers are off by 4x. I didn't realize he wanted to
swing 1000# of pot/week. I though it was a monthly thing.
Even at 1000/week, its a lot and people would notice. At 4000/month...
wow. That's impacting someone else's livelihood; it's taking food from
someone's children so to speak.
We aren't even touching on the Peruvian marching powder, of which
several keys/week were mentioned, i think.
He either bullshitted himself into a lot of trouble or he's seriously
connected. Thing is, a car belonging to him got tagged with $80 large
down in dallas. That hints at seriously connected.
If he's able to move that kind of volume, there's no way he's in charge;
I can't see a NFL player having the kind of time needed to run or
oversee something like that. Unless of course he's some kind of
Superdealer.
So he's a purchasing agent. For some very bad dudes.
Did he bond out? If so, anyone want to take odds on how long he
continues to breath w/o a respirator?
Paging Ron T. to the thread.
this stuff.
I also _had_ a *passing* acquaintance with people who did this shit for
real, back in the 90s.
I realized my numbers are off by 4x. I didn't realize he wanted to
swing 1000# of pot/week. I though it was a monthly thing.
Even at 1000/week, its a lot and people would notice. At 4000/month...
wow. That's impacting someone else's livelihood; it's taking food from
someone's children so to speak.
We aren't even touching on the Peruvian marching powder, of which
several keys/week were mentioned, i think.
He either bullshitted himself into a lot of trouble or he's seriously
connected. Thing is, a car belonging to him got tagged with $80 large
down in dallas. That hints at seriously connected.
If he's able to move that kind of volume, there's no way he's in charge;
I can't see a NFL player having the kind of time needed to run or
oversee something like that. Unless of course he's some kind of
Superdealer.
So he's a purchasing agent. For some very bad dudes.
Did he bond out? If so, anyone want to take odds on how long he
continues to breath w/o a respirator?
Paging Ron T. to the thread.
Cuthbert Thistlethwaite
Dec 16, 2011, 8:32:56 PM12/16/11
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Mark Anderson wrote:
> At $450/pound that's not dope meant for the Benz crowd, that's dope
> meant for the kenji crowd.
max
Dec 16, 2011, 8:36:04 PM12/16/11
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In article <jcgr9s$os8$1...@dont-email.me>,
I'm betting it's the kind of stuff that's compressed with a hydraulic
press so it'll fit inside other things, like truck frames and tires.
press so it'll fit inside other things, like truck frames and tires.
Brent
Dec 16, 2011, 8:55:11 PM12/16/11
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sense of any of it.
Since he supposedly got nailed by undercovers could it be a John
Delorean type thing?
smr
Dec 17, 2011, 3:03:03 AM12/17/11
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either the papers are ridiculously off on their numbers, or he was
actually feeding 2-3 teams and hangers on' worth of habit. Going to be
fun to watch it play out either way.
Early word is that he was already selling a fucking assload of blow
around Chicago. 2-3K, which is two-three times what your average "car
Mexican" is selling a week. Since I can't imagine any NFL player has the
time to hustle grams that hard, I'm guessing he was pulling that off by
selling ridiculously large piles of blow in large chunks a few times a
week. Which, if any average Thursday night in River North holds true, is
about right.
--
smr
Geoff Gass
Dec 17, 2011, 4:07:06 AM12/17/11
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JG <jgro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Do the team charter flights get the same xray and TSA treatment ???
aww, isn't it cute when our janitor dreams of himself as an investigator?
> Do the team charter flights get the same xray and TSA treatment ???
yes, dipshit, the charter flights get the TSA treatment.
Mark Anderson
Dec 17, 2011, 7:07:16 AM12/17/11
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In article beta...@gmail.com says...
average use means you're estimation is almost an order of magnitude
below mine. Since my calculation on 1000lb/week with 10% of the
population average potheads resulted in 100% market coverage for Chicago
proper and perhaps 50% coverage for the greater Chicagoland area. Since
your assumptions are an order of magnitude lower then he would still
need to get 5-10% market share in a fairly large area with a ~7.5M
population. This still seems insurmountable.
Since I get all my information about the drug trade from the TV show
"The Wire," having someone making real legitimate money get involved
with something like this usually ended up with the guy making the
legitimate money getting conned out of it by either law enforcement or
the bad guys.
> I realized my numbers are off by 4x. I didn't realize he wanted to
> swing 1000# of pot/week. I though it was a monthly thing.
>
> Even at 1000/week, its a lot and people would notice. At 4000/month...
> wow. That's impacting someone else's livelihood; it's taking food from
> someone's children so to speak.
By using a 2oz/month average use as opposed to my assumption of a 1/4 oz
> swing 1000# of pot/week. I though it was a monthly thing.
>
> Even at 1000/week, its a lot and people would notice. At 4000/month...
> wow. That's impacting someone else's livelihood; it's taking food from
> someone's children so to speak.
average use means you're estimation is almost an order of magnitude
below mine. Since my calculation on 1000lb/week with 10% of the
population average potheads resulted in 100% market coverage for Chicago
proper and perhaps 50% coverage for the greater Chicagoland area. Since
your assumptions are an order of magnitude lower then he would still
need to get 5-10% market share in a fairly large area with a ~7.5M
population. This still seems insurmountable.
Since I get all my information about the drug trade from the TV show
"The Wire," having someone making real legitimate money get involved
with something like this usually ended up with the guy making the
legitimate money getting conned out of it by either law enforcement or
the bad guys.
Ron T.
Dec 17, 2011, 10:26:17 AM12/17/11
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"max" <beta...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:betatron-43A585.19171616122011@[66.246.138.5]...
I haven't been following it, so don't expect much.
I got numb some time ago to guys with salaries in the multi-million range
who are really, really good at totally fucking up their lives.
I mean, I've seen a lot of first class idiots who come running in with "help
me, help me" when they do stupid shit, but it's primarily paddlefuck kinda
trash, not someone who's got it made and then throws it away.
JG
Dec 17, 2011, 5:29:35 PM12/17/11
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On Dec 17, 3:07 am, Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
I don't see any TSA checkpoint in this photo:
http://johnnyjettravel.blogspot.com/2010_10_01_archive.html
How many of those rolling suitcases have blow stashed ??
The routine looks like bus to charter then bus at the destination:
http://blog.patriots.com/2009/10/22/patriots-depart-for-london/
Playah got blow ?
http://www.google.com/search?q=nfl+team+charter+flight+loading&hl=en&gbv=2&imgrefurl=http://blog.seahawks.com/tag/gus-bradley/page/2/&imgurl=http://nflseahawks.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/20101123eye_01.jpg%253Fw%253D620%2526h%253D413&w=620&h=413&sig=103713915390026996379&ndsp=22&tbm=isch&tbs=simg:CAQSEglS9dG0557EGSHKI0YmfAD6gA&sa=X&ei=YRftTrqHBMft0gHU3figCQ&ved=0CAUQrBE4oQE&biw=1280&bih=894
http://johnnyjettravel.blogspot.com/2010_10_01_archive.html
How many of those rolling suitcases have blow stashed ??
The routine looks like bus to charter then bus at the destination:
http://blog.patriots.com/2009/10/22/patriots-depart-for-london/
Playah got blow ?
http://www.google.com/search?q=nfl+team+charter+flight+loading&hl=en&gbv=2&imgrefurl=http://blog.seahawks.com/tag/gus-bradley/page/2/&imgurl=http://nflseahawks.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/20101123eye_01.jpg%253Fw%253D620%2526h%253D413&w=620&h=413&sig=103713915390026996379&ndsp=22&tbm=isch&tbs=simg:CAQSEglS9dG0557EGSHKI0YmfAD6gA&sa=X&ei=YRftTrqHBMft0gHU3figCQ&ved=0CAUQrBE4oQE&biw=1280&bih=894
Cydrome Leader
Dec 17, 2011, 10:44:55 PM12/17/11
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Brent <tetraethylle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 2011-12-17, Cuthbert Thistlethwaite <nosil...@myface.net> wrote:
>>
>> Mark Anderson wrote:
>>
>>> At $450/pound that's not dope meant for the Benz crowd, that's dope
>>> meant for the kenji crowd.
>>
>> Yes it sounded like unmitigated crap.
>
> It's all government/cop drug math at this point. Don't expect to make
> sense of any of it.
agreed.
> On 2011-12-17, Cuthbert Thistlethwaite <nosil...@myface.net> wrote:
>>
>> Mark Anderson wrote:
>>
>>> At $450/pound that's not dope meant for the Benz crowd, that's dope
>>> meant for the kenji crowd.
>>
>> Yes it sounded like unmitigated crap.
>
> It's all government/cop drug math at this point. Don't expect to make
> sense of any of it.
> Since he supposedly got nailed by undercovers could it be a John
> Delorean type thing?
Geoff Gass
Dec 18, 2011, 4:16:39 PM12/18/11
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JG <jgro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
a fucking idiot, but god damn, you're a fucking idiot. Generally sports
teams would clear at an FBO facility, though not always.
> On Dec 17, 3:07?am, Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>> JG <jgrov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > Do the team charter flights get the same xray and TSA treatment ???
>>
>> aww, isn't it cute when our janitor dreams of himself as an investigator?
>>
>> yes, dipshit, the charter flights get the TSA treatment.
>
> I don't see any TSA checkpoint in this photo:
> http://johnnyjettravel.blogspot.com/2010_10_01_archive.html
yeah, because they put the TSA checkpoint planeside. I already know you're
>> JG <jgrov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > Do the team charter flights get the same xray and TSA treatment ???
>>
>> aww, isn't it cute when our janitor dreams of himself as an investigator?
>>
>> yes, dipshit, the charter flights get the TSA treatment.
>
> I don't see any TSA checkpoint in this photo:
> http://johnnyjettravel.blogspot.com/2010_10_01_archive.html
a fucking idiot, but god damn, you're a fucking idiot. Generally sports
teams would clear at an FBO facility, though not always.
spamtrap1888
Dec 18, 2011, 4:26:27 PM12/18/11
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and ask Mrs. K for the exact details) would be of value, so of course
he's ignoring this thread.
g
Dec 18, 2011, 4:50:41 PM12/18/11
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In article
<4e86addf-c507-4b78...@32g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
I can't just willy nilly give out info.
I know which side my bread is buttered on.
<4e86addf-c507-4b78...@32g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
I know which side my bread is buttered on.
spamtrap1888
Dec 18, 2011, 5:01:24 PM12/18/11
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On Dec 18, 1:50 pm, g <g...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <4e86addf-c507-4b78-a838-34c5abce3...@32g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
Shouldn't be a secret where and how charter flight passengers are
screened.
> In article
> <4e86addf-c507-4b78-a838-34c5abce3...@32g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
screened.
g
Dec 18, 2011, 5:09:46 PM12/18/11
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In article
<578e5f98-9a62-4716...@l19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
Like I said, I can't give info out.
<578e5f98-9a62-4716...@l19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
spamtrap1888
Dec 18, 2011, 6:17:20 PM12/18/11
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> <578e5f98-9a62-4716-8a25-9562f3935...@l19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
I'm not asking for secret or confidential information, only for public
information that you would be in a better place to know than the
average Joe.
If I was going to take a charter flight out of O'Hare, where would I
go? Would I go to a regular terminal, go through security, and then
take a bus from the puddle jumper gate? Or are all charter passengers
blindfolded and sent in a windowless van to the charter plane hangar?
information that you would be in a better place to know than the
average Joe.
If I was going to take a charter flight out of O'Hare, where would I
go? Would I go to a regular terminal, go through security, and then
take a bus from the puddle jumper gate? Or are all charter passengers
blindfolded and sent in a windowless van to the charter plane hangar?
core
Dec 18, 2011, 6:50:30 PM12/18/11
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Some insight here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/archive/t-1243885.html
g
Dec 18, 2011, 8:26:47 PM12/18/11
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Mr. Kenji
Dec 18, 2011, 8:27:35 PM12/18/11
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In article
<42cb96a9-0ebe-4d46...@q16g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
312
642
0800
<42cb96a9-0ebe-4d46...@q16g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
spamtrap1888 <spamtr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not asking for secret or confidential information, only for public
> information that you would be in a better place to know than the
> average Joe.
give me a ringie dingie
> I'm not asking for secret or confidential information, only for public
> information that you would be in a better place to know than the
> average Joe.
312
642
0800
JG
Dec 19, 2011, 6:44:27 PM12/19/11
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On Dec 18, 5:50 pm, core <core-use...@spamless.spook.homeip.net>
wrote:
> ><4e86addf-c507-4b78-a838-34c5abce3...@32g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
By the comments in that forum, the TSA does some wanding before the
bus is loaded. Not clear on baggage but could be like Air Force One,
i.e. nothing.
No wonder the NFL put a franchise in Jacksonville,FL. An easy unload
for the go-fast boats on the coast and a taste for the pros to spread
via "team flights". Think of the tonnage the Dolphins have moved over
the years.
wrote:
> ><4e86addf-c507-4b78-a838-34c5abce3...@32g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
> > spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Dec 18, 1:16 pm, Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
> >> > JG <jgrov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > On Dec 17, 3:07?am, Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
> >> > >> JG <jgrov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> > Do the team charter flights get the same xray and TSA treatment ???
>
> >> > >> aww, isn't it cute when our janitor dreams of himself as an investigator?
>
> >> > >> yes, dipshit, the charter flights get the TSA treatment.
>
> >> > > I don't see any TSA checkpoint in this photo:
> >> > >http://johnnyjettravel.blogspot.com/2010_10_01_archive.html
>
> >> > yeah, because they put the TSA checkpoint planeside. I already know you're
> >> > a fucking idiot, but god damn, you're a fucking idiot. Generally sports
> >> > teams would clear at an FBO facility, though not always.
>
> >> This is one thread where knjo's input (in that he could just roll over
> >> and ask Mrs. K for the exact details) would be of value, so of course
> >> he's ignoring this thread.
>
> >I can't just willy nilly give out info.
>
> >I know which side my bread is buttered on.
>
> IOW you don't have a clue and are too lazy to ask.
>
> Some insight here
>
> http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/archive/t-1243885.html- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> On Dec 18, 1:16 pm, Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
> >> > JG <jgrov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > On Dec 17, 3:07?am, Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
> >> > >> JG <jgrov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> > Do the team charter flights get the same xray and TSA treatment ???
>
> >> > >> aww, isn't it cute when our janitor dreams of himself as an investigator?
>
> >> > >> yes, dipshit, the charter flights get the TSA treatment.
>
> >> > > I don't see any TSA checkpoint in this photo:
> >> > >http://johnnyjettravel.blogspot.com/2010_10_01_archive.html
>
> >> > yeah, because they put the TSA checkpoint planeside. I already know you're
> >> > a fucking idiot, but god damn, you're a fucking idiot. Generally sports
> >> > teams would clear at an FBO facility, though not always.
>
> >> This is one thread where knjo's input (in that he could just roll over
> >> and ask Mrs. K for the exact details) would be of value, so of course
> >> he's ignoring this thread.
>
> >I can't just willy nilly give out info.
>
> >I know which side my bread is buttered on.
>
> IOW you don't have a clue and are too lazy to ask.
>
> Some insight here
>
By the comments in that forum, the TSA does some wanding before the
bus is loaded. Not clear on baggage but could be like Air Force One,
i.e. nothing.
No wonder the NFL put a franchise in Jacksonville,FL. An easy unload
for the go-fast boats on the coast and a taste for the pros to spread
via "team flights". Think of the tonnage the Dolphins have moved over
the years.
Geoff Gass
Dec 19, 2011, 8:22:02 PM12/19/11
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JG <jgro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 18, 5:50?pm, core <core-use...@spamless.spook.homeip.net>
>> >> > a fucking idiot, but god damn, you're a fucking idiot. ?Generally sports
supplementing its income by running drugs.
> On Dec 18, 5:50?pm, core <core-use...@spamless.spook.homeip.net>
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 15:50:41 -0600, g <g...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >In article
>> ><4e86addf-c507-4b78-a838-34c5abce3...@32g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
>> > spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 15:50:41 -0600, g <g...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >In article
>> ><4e86addf-c507-4b78-a838-34c5abce3...@32g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
>> > spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> On Dec 18, 1:16?pm, Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>> >> > JG <jgrov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > On Dec 17, 3:07?am, Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> JG <jgrov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> > Do the team charter flights get the same xray and TSA treatment ???
>>
>> >> > >> aww, isn't it cute when our janitor dreams of himself as an investigator?
>>
>> >> > >> yes, dipshit, the charter flights get the TSA treatment.
>>
>> >> > > I don't see any TSA checkpoint in this photo:
>> >> > >http://johnnyjettravel.blogspot.com/2010_10_01_archive.html
>>
>> >> > yeah, because they put the TSA checkpoint planeside. ?I already know you're
>> >> > JG <jgrov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > On Dec 17, 3:07?am, Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> JG <jgrov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> > Do the team charter flights get the same xray and TSA treatment ???
>>
>> >> > >> aww, isn't it cute when our janitor dreams of himself as an investigator?
>>
>> >> > >> yes, dipshit, the charter flights get the TSA treatment.
>>
>> >> > > I don't see any TSA checkpoint in this photo:
>> >> > >http://johnnyjettravel.blogspot.com/2010_10_01_archive.html
>>
>> >> > a fucking idiot, but god damn, you're a fucking idiot. ?Generally sports
>> >> > teams would clear at an FBO facility, though not always.
>>
>> >> This is one thread where knjo's input (in that he could just roll over
>> >> and ask Mrs. K for the exact details) would be of value, so of course
>> >> he's ignoring this thread.
>>
>> >I can't just willy nilly give out info.
>>
>> >I know which side my bread is buttered on.
>>
>> IOW you don't have a clue and are too lazy to ask.
>>
>> Some insight here
>>
>> http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/archive/t-1243885.html- Hide quoted text -
>
> By the comments in that forum, the TSA does some wanding before the
> bus is loaded. Not clear on baggage but could be like Air Force One,
> i.e. nothing.
>
> No wonder the NFL put a franchise in Jacksonville,FL. An easy unload
> for the go-fast boats on the coast and a taste for the pros to spread
> via "team flights". Think of the tonnage the Dolphins have moved over
> the years.
yes, that's right. Our resident janitor has the NFL, a $9B enterprise,
>>
>> >> This is one thread where knjo's input (in that he could just roll over
>> >> and ask Mrs. K for the exact details) would be of value, so of course
>> >> he's ignoring this thread.
>>
>> >I can't just willy nilly give out info.
>>
>> >I know which side my bread is buttered on.
>>
>> IOW you don't have a clue and are too lazy to ask.
>>
>> Some insight here
>>
>> http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/archive/t-1243885.html- Hide quoted text -
>
> By the comments in that forum, the TSA does some wanding before the
> bus is loaded. Not clear on baggage but could be like Air Force One,
> i.e. nothing.
>
> No wonder the NFL put a franchise in Jacksonville,FL. An easy unload
> for the go-fast boats on the coast and a taste for the pros to spread
> via "team flights". Think of the tonnage the Dolphins have moved over
> the years.
supplementing its income by running drugs.
smr
Dec 20, 2011, 12:49:40 AM12/20/11
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fuckall to contribute to this group that the one time he actually
could've, he punted with some vague excuse that basically can be summed
up as "as soon as Dori gets that huge black cock out of her mouth, I'd
ask her, but she doesn't talk to me anymore since I've become a raging,
near-death fuckwad".
So just stop replying to him, m'kay?
--
smr
Cydrome Leader
Dec 20, 2011, 4:31:15 AM12/20/11
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stuff just because.
I'd buy one of those giant soviet cargo planes, pack it 450 tons of drugs
then crash that shit back into mexico city or whever those assholes with
stupid face tattoos come from. That would be the most hillarious sunday
afternoon ever.
g
Dec 20, 2011, 9:36:32 AM12/20/11
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In article <jcp7lc$eh1$1...@ftupet.ftupet.com>, smr <m...@shawnritchie.com>
wrote:
i left my phone number
wrote:
JG
Dec 21, 2011, 8:43:38 PM12/21/11
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>
> >> By the comments in that forum, the TSA does some wanding before the
> >> bus is loaded. Not clear on baggage but could be like Air Force One,
> >> i.e. nothing.
>
> >> No wonder the NFL put a franchise in Jacksonville,FL. An easy unload
> >> for the go-fast boats on the coast and a taste for the pros to spread
> >> via "team flights". Think of the tonnage the Dolphins have moved over
> >> the years.
>
> > yes, that's right. Our resident janitor has the NFL, a $9B enterprise,
> > supplementing its income by running drugs.
>
> Why not? If I had billions you can be sure I'd doing all sorts of dirty
> stuff just because.
>
> I'd buy one of those giant soviet cargo planes, pack it 450 tons of drugs
> then crash that shit back into mexico city or whever those assholes with
> stupid face tattoos come from. That would be the most hillarious sunday
> afternoon ever.
This shouldn't be a surprise:
> >> By the comments in that forum, the TSA does some wanding before the
> >> bus is loaded. Not clear on baggage but could be like Air Force One,
> >> i.e. nothing.
>
> >> No wonder the NFL put a franchise in Jacksonville,FL. An easy unload
> >> for the go-fast boats on the coast and a taste for the pros to spread
> >> via "team flights". Think of the tonnage the Dolphins have moved over
> >> the years.
>
> > yes, that's right. Our resident janitor has the NFL, a $9B enterprise,
> > supplementing its income by running drugs.
>
> Why not? If I had billions you can be sure I'd doing all sorts of dirty
> stuff just because.
>
> I'd buy one of those giant soviet cargo planes, pack it 450 tons of drugs
> then crash that shit back into mexico city or whever those assholes with
> stupid face tattoos come from. That would be the most hillarious sunday
> afternoon ever.
" Hurd was apparently not armed outside Morton's Steakhouse when
federal agents took him into custody last Wednesday.
However, according to federal court records, at some point after that,
U.S. Immigration and Customs officers determined Hurd had numerous
guns at the Lake Forest home where he was living with his wife and
daughter.
An AR-15 was among the firearms that Hurd had to surrender as a
requirement of his bond. The semi-automatic assault rifle owned by
Hurd is the civilian version of the full-auto, military issue M-16.
Bond records obtained Tuesday by the I-Team state that "defendant
[Hurd] shall turn over AR-15 rifle and all shotguns in his possession
to agents with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security within 24
hours of defendant's release."
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/iteam&id=8474367
JG
Dec 21, 2011, 8:46:07 PM12/21/11
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>
> > By the comments in that forum, the TSA does some wanding before the
> > bus is loaded. Not clear on baggage but could be like Air Force One,
> > i.e. nothing.
>
> > No wonder the NFL put a franchise in Jacksonville,FL. An easy unload
> > for the go-fast boats on the coast and a taste for the pros to spread
> > via "team flights". Think of the tonnage the Dolphins have moved over
> > the years.
>
> yes, that's right. Our resident janitor has the NFL, a $9B enterprise,
> supplementing its income by running drugs.
Its a "pension plan" for the second striggers who typically last 4 or
> > By the comments in that forum, the TSA does some wanding before the
> > bus is loaded. Not clear on baggage but could be like Air Force One,
> > i.e. nothing.
>
> > No wonder the NFL put a franchise in Jacksonville,FL. An easy unload
> > for the go-fast boats on the coast and a taste for the pros to spread
> > via "team flights". Think of the tonnage the Dolphins have moved over
> > the years.
>
> yes, that's right. Our resident janitor has the NFL, a $9B enterprise,
> supplementing its income by running drugs.
5 seasons. Jacksonville deserves a team as much as Naperville/Aurora
does.
Adam H. Kerman
Dec 22, 2011, 1:24:56 PM12/22/11
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JG <jgro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>This shouldn't be a surprise:
>" Hurd was apparently not armed outside Morton's Steakhouse when
>federal agents took him into custody last Wednesday.
>However, according to federal court records, at some point after that,
>U.S. Immigration and Customs officers determined Hurd had numerous
>guns at the Lake Forest home where he was living with his wife and
>daughter.
>An AR-15 was among the firearms that Hurd had to surrender as a
>requirement of his bond. The semi-automatic assault rifle owned by
>Hurd is the civilian version of the full-auto, military issue M-16.
>Bond records obtained Tuesday by the I-Team state that "defendant
>[Hurd] shall turn over AR-15 rifle and all shotguns in his possession
>to agents with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security within 24
>hours of defendant's release."
>http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/iteam&id=8474367
How the fuck does Customs get involved in domestic gun seizures?
>This shouldn't be a surprise:
>" Hurd was apparently not armed outside Morton's Steakhouse when
>federal agents took him into custody last Wednesday.
>However, according to federal court records, at some point after that,
>U.S. Immigration and Customs officers determined Hurd had numerous
>guns at the Lake Forest home where he was living with his wife and
>daughter.
>An AR-15 was among the firearms that Hurd had to surrender as a
>requirement of his bond. The semi-automatic assault rifle owned by
>Hurd is the civilian version of the full-auto, military issue M-16.
>Bond records obtained Tuesday by the I-Team state that "defendant
>[Hurd] shall turn over AR-15 rifle and all shotguns in his possession
>to agents with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security within 24
>hours of defendant's release."
>http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/iteam&id=8474367
spamtrap1888
Dec 22, 2011, 1:31:09 PM12/22/11
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On Dec 22, 10:24 am, "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
To which branch of law enforcement should Customs hand off the task of
disarming the drug smugglers they catch?
disarming the drug smugglers they catch?
Adam H. Kerman
Dec 22, 2011, 1:56:24 PM12/22/11
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Mark Anderson
Dec 22, 2011, 5:35:29 PM12/22/11
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In article spamtr...@gmail.com says...
> > How the fuck does Customs get involved in domestic gun seizures?
>
> To which branch of law enforcement should Customs hand off the task of
> disarming the drug smugglers they catch?
What's the purpose of the DEA then?
>
> To which branch of law enforcement should Customs hand off the task of
> disarming the drug smugglers they catch?
Bruce Esquibel
Dec 23, 2011, 6:23:23 AM12/23/11
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> How the fuck does Customs get involved in domestic gun seizures?
I think it falls under the umbrella of "Homeland Security".
We were trying to figure that out last year when customs started to seize
domain names of websites that were not even hosted in the united states.
The websites made the mistake of using a u.s. registration service (godaddy,
versign/netsol) but some of the websites didn't have a damn thing to do with
customs and what they are supposed to do.
The ones selling counterfeit goods (purses, shoes, nfl stuff), maybe.
But most of them were like movie and video sites.
I guess it's like getting dog shit off your shoes without a stick, you keep
spreading it around on the grass.
-bruce
b...@ripco.com
aeiou
Dec 23, 2011, 11:31:15 AM12/23/11
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In article <MPG.295d7abf8...@news.speakeasy.net>,
dea answers the the dept of justice
you need to google DEA
you need to google DEA
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