Frazier Thomas was the prime minister
Garfield Goose was the King
What was the name of the rest of the characters. (Beauregard Burnside III was
a detective I think). Thanks in advance for any assistance. GSB
> You might want to phone the Museum of Broadcast Communications at (312)
> 629-6000. They were once able to tell me the name of Dudley DoRight's
> horse!
Better yet, stop by at the Cultural Center (corner of Randolph and
Michigan) and they may actually be PLAYING one of the episodes!
And don't miss the radio room! The museum is a real gem so far
underutilized. Free admission. Membership optional, but cheap.
And if you haven't been to the Cultural Center (the old main public
library) you are missing an architecture treat.
And isn't FtoF communication a wonderful thing?
Another source for this type of information would be:
David W. Kleeman, Executive Director (dkle...@mcs.net)
American Center for Children's Television
847-390-6499 (phone) 847-390-9435 (fax)
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>Better yet, stop by at the Cultural Center (corner of Randolph and
>Michigan) and they may actually be PLAYING one of the episodes!
>And don't miss the radio room! The museum is a real gem so far
>underutilized. Free admission. Membership optional, but cheap.
>And if you haven't been to the Cultural Center (the old main public
>library) you are missing an architecture treat.
It may be an architectural treat, but the Barney Fife security guards won't
let you sit on the front steps, normally a treat to those with aching feet.
Wonder if you can sit on the bench with the statue of the old ladies?
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I remember it, and I remember it well.
First off, laugh all you want, but Frasier Thomas invented the
"Macintosh Mouse" at least 30 years before Steve Jobs did!
Frasier Thomas was the only human on the show.
The puppets were:
Garfield Goose was the "Goose who thinks he's King of the United States"
Garfield's mother, "Mom Goose"
His nephew, Chris. (Born on 12/25)
Romberg Rabbit, a former magician's assistant.
Ramona Rabbit, Romberg's girlfriend.
Beauregard Burnside III, a bloodhound.
Macintosh Mouse
There were phone calls from a "Mrs McGillacudy"
There was Clutch Cargo, a hidieous cartoon with still drawings and real
moving mouths. Don't forget his friends Spinner & Paddlefoot.
Remember Pow-Wow the Indian Boy? Lets see the Politically Correct
crowd let them air that one today. There was always the annual
Christmas presentation of Hardrock, Cocoa, and Joe.
"Oley O lady, o lady I-O...." < rolling eyes >
Thats never complete without sticking your face in your little sister's
and yelling in your best 9 yr. old basso profundo "AND JOE!!"
How about Frasier Thomas playing his "juice harp" and sometimes singing
Jingle Bells in Latin?
"Hot Dogs, Hambrigers" would wake up the sleeping Beauregard, and some
time later "Spaghetti & Meatballs" was added to the phrase.
"Roast Goose" was the phrase to get Garfield to jump back and go away.
To start the cartoons they zoomed in on the Little Theater Screen then
faded to the film.
The animal characters never had voices. They would move their mouths
and gesticulate, but never spoke. Fraiser would listen and then ask
"oh.. so you want to buy a new car.." or whatever.
They used to sell Garfield Goose puppets, and a record of the organ solo
used as the themesong.
Yes, there are a few of us out here who remember Garfield Goose.
Now, anyone care to try Geraldine the Short Necked Giraffe?
Ron
>Gregory Banks wrote:
>> Frazier Thomas was the prime minister
>> Garfield Goose was the King
>> What was the name of the rest of the characters. (Beauregard Burnside III was
>> a detective I think). Thanks in advance for any assistance. GSB
>I forget the position, but Romberg Rabbit was there.
And don't forget Mrs. McGillicuddy, never seen but frequently in communication
with Frazier Thomas by phone. Kinda like Charlie of "Charlie's Angels" sans
speakerphone.
Answer to the Garfield Goose trivia question before anyone asks: The phrase
that Frazier Thomas always said to wake up Beaureguard Burnside III by
shouting in his ear was "hotdogs, hamburgers, spaghetti and meatballs."
Also Macintosh (g) Mouse.
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>In chi.general Bearhair <bear...@ripco.com> wrote:
>> On 27 Feb 1997 03:33:32 GMT, gba...@foto.infi.net (Gregory Banks) wrote:
>
>> >I am a Chicagoan of the 60s who grew up on WGN Ch9 afterschool. Livivng in NC
>> >now. Can anyone please post the cast of Garfield Goose a children's show of
>> >the 60s (it used to broadcast at 5:00pm daily).
>
>> >Frazier Thomas was the prime minister
>> >Garfield Goose was the King
>> >What was the name of the rest of the characters. (Beauregard Burnside III was
>> >a detective I think). Thanks in advance for any assistance. GSB
>
>> You might want to phone the Museum of Broadcast Communications at (312)
>> 629-6000. They were once able to tell me the name of Dudley DoRight's
>> horse!
>
> Jude Crouch (jcr...@pobox.com)
I was just there last week - they have an exhibit for the show which
displays some of the characters, as well as Frasier Thomas' jacket.
Karen
Send e-mail to bikr...@mcs.net
>There was Clutch Cargo, a hidieous cartoon with still drawings and real
>moving mouths.
There was also "Scott McCloud, Space Angel" (the astronaut with an eye
patch who also had a real moving mouth) and "Journey to the Beginning of Time"
(three teen-aged kids [one named JoJo] transported back to the days of
dinosars -- I believe the Field Museum of Natural History was included in the
credits at the end for contributing somehow). And don't forget those
occasional but regular public-service campaign spots making everyone aware of
ambyoplia, an eye disorder that made everything all blurry.
>How about Frasier Thomas playing his "juice harp"
The term for it is actually "jew's harp." I always thought Frazier was
calling it a "jaw harp" until I saw "jew's harp" on the packaging of the
instrument in musical instrument stores. I remember Frazier always saying how
easily it was for you to crack a front tooth playing one.
>To start the cartoons they zoomed in on the Little Theater Screen then
>faded to the film.
Not quite as psychadelic an effect as the opening to The Magic Mirror
segment on "Romper Room" (guess they had to put *something* in there so we at
home didn't see the teacher switch to the mirror with no glass in it) but a
neat trick nonetheless in the mind of a 5-year-old.
> I remember it, and I remember it well.
> First off, laugh all you want, but Frasier Thomas invented the
> "Macintosh Mouse" at least 30 years before Steve Jobs did!
> Frasier Thomas was the only human on the show.
> The puppets were:
> Garfield Goose was the "Goose who thinks he's King of the United States"
> Garfield's mother, "Mom Goose"
> His nephew, Chris. (Born on 12/25)
Yes, the Christmas Goose!
> Romberg Rabbit, a former magician's assistant.
> Ramona Rabbit, Romberg's girlfriend.
> Beauregard Burnside III, a bloodhound.
> Macintosh Mouse
> There were phone calls from a "Mrs McGillacudy"
> There was Clutch Cargo, a hidieous cartoon with still drawings and real
> moving mouths. Don't forget his friends Spinner & Paddlefoot.
> Remember Pow-Wow the Indian Boy? Lets see the Politically Correct
> crowd let them air that one today. There was always the annual
> Christmas presentation of Hardrock, Cocoa, and Joe.
> "Oley O lady, o lady I-O...." < rolling eyes >
> Thats never complete without sticking your face in your little sister's
> and yelling in your best 9 yr. old basso profundo "AND JOE!!"
> How about Frasier Thomas playing his "juice harp" and sometimes singing
> Jingle Bells in Latin?
( I don't know latin so here it is phonetically:)
Tin-a-tah, tin-a-tah
Tin tin a-bulah
Youcum a [something something]
In terra ju-bu-lah
> "Hot Dogs, Hambrigers" would wake up the sleeping Beauregard, and some
> time later "Spaghetti & Meatballs" was added to the phrase.
> "Roast Goose" was the phrase to get Garfield to jump back and go away.
> To start the cartoons they zoomed in on the Little Theater Screen then
> faded to the film.
> The animal characters never had voices. They would move their mouths
> and gesticulate, but never spoke. Fraiser would listen and then ask
> "oh.. so you want to buy a new car.." or whatever.
> They used to sell Garfield Goose puppets, and a record of the organ solo
> used as the themesong.
> Yes, there are a few of us out here who remember Garfield Goose.
> Now, anyone care to try Geraldine the Short Necked Giraffe?
> Ron
Thanks, Ron. A very good summary. Ah, memories.
Scott Buckner wrote:
> There was also "Scott McCloud, Space Angel" (the astronaut with an eye
> patch who also had a real moving mouth) and "Journey to the Beginning of Time"
> (three teen-aged kids [one named JoJo] transported back to the days of
> dinosars -- I believe the Field Museum of Natural History was included in the
> credits at the end for contributing somehow). And don't forget those
> occasional but regular public-service campaign spots making everyone aware of
> ambyoplia, an eye disorder that made everything all blurry.
Ooooh. Forgot about those completely. Thanks.
> >How about Frasier Thomas playing his "juice harp"
> The term for it is actually "jew's harp." I always thought Frazier was
> calling it a "jaw harp" until I saw "jew's harp" on the packaging of the
> instrument in musical instrument stores. I remember Frazier always saying how
> easily it was for you to crack a front tooth playing one.
Yeah.. I knew that, but it always seemed to me that he was saying "juice
harp"
which is why I wrote it that way.
>Gregory Banks wrote:
>There was always the annual
>Christmas presentation of Hardrock, Cocoa, and Joe.
>"Oley O lady, o lady I-O...." < rolling eyes >
>Thats never complete without sticking your face in your little sister's
>and yelling in your best 9 yr. old basso profundo "AND JOE!!"
Oops ... almost forgot the annual Christmas presentation of Suzy Snowflake,
who was a Christmas fairy of some sort, if I recall. I seem to remember her
flying around changing stuff with a magic wand. (Here comes/Suzy
Snowflake/dah-dah-dah-somethingsomethingsomethingsomething ....)
The Suzy Snowflake song didn't have the kick of Hardrock, Coco and Joe (no
basso profundo in that light, tinkly little song), but delightful for the
little-girl set, I presume.
I've been told that the Sunday Bozo show took up showing Hardrock, Coco and
Joe during Christmas. Don't know for sure since I haven't watched Bozo in
years. I got kind of annoyed that they fired the whole Bozo band and left the
music to just one guy with a synthesizer.
>Gregory Banks wrote:
>>
>> I am a Chicagoan of the 60s who grew up on WGN Ch9 afterschool. Livivng in NC
>> now. Can anyone please post the cast of Garfield Goose (snip)
And can anyone recall pestering their parents to buy the utterly
inedible On-Cor steaks because of their sponsorship of Garfield Goose?
If the parents resisted, kids could always try using Garfield's "cute
look"...with the head held upside down. A forerunner of today's "sad
puppy eyes."
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>David "And where was Two-Ton Baker while all this was going on?" Witz
>
>
He was probably with Uncle Johnny Coons and Crusader Rabbit....
David Silberberg
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>David "And where was Two-Ton Baker while all this was going on?" Witz
Probably looking for Bubbles ...
Or out with Uncle Johnny Coons (sp?) and Elmer and Elmira elephant
brushing their teeth with Ipana toothpaste.
How nice to see a "light" moment in this group :)
Dennis Metcalfe
>Ron Kritzman <ro...@ais.net> wrote:
>
>>Gregory Banks wrote:
>>>
>>> I am a Chicagoan of the 60s who grew up on WGN Ch9 afterschool. Livivng in NC
>>> now. Can anyone please post the cast of Garfield Goose (snip)
Frazier Thomas (deceased now, I think)
a bunch of other puppets besides Gar?
>
>And can anyone recall pestering their parents to buy the utterly
>inedible On-Cor steaks because of their sponsorship of Garfield Goose?
No! Yuck!!
<snip>
>David "And where was Two-Ton Baker while all this was going on?" Witz
And does anyone remember the lovely Mary Hartline? And what show she
was on? I saw this pathetic old blond woman being interviewed on
local cable yesterday and it turned out she was Mary!! How did she
get so old so fast!!
Bobbie
>> The term for it is actually "jew's harp." I always thought Frazier was
>> calling it a "jaw harp" until I saw "jew's harp" on the packaging of the
>> instrument in musical instrument stores. I remember Frazier always saying how
>> easily it was for you to crack a front tooth playing one.
>Yeah.. I knew that, but it always seemed to me that he was saying "juice
>harp"
>which is why I wrote it that way.
Perhaps Frazier was being politically correct way ahead of his time? What
trailblazers we Chicagoans are ...
No doubt about it. Frazier was directly responsible for the butchering, I
mean editing, of the Family Classics features. He was brutal...
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Yeah, they wandered all over the faces! I saw one slide half off the chin
once.
> The animal characters never had voices. They would move their mouths
> and gesticulate, but never spoke. Fraiser would listen and then ask
> "oh.. so you want to buy a new car.." or whatever.
Well, Garfield himself went "clop clop" a lot, especially when angry.
> Now, anyone care to try Geraldine the Short Necked Giraffe?
Didn't we do "Here's Geraldine" a year or so ago?
>
> David "And where was Two-Ton Baker while all this was going on?" Witz
Riverview?
>Ron Kritzman <ro...@ais.net> wrote:
Ever think about him at the front of the boat while going down the
Bobs? Or better yet, sitting in one of those little cars on the Wild
Mouse when it felt like more than half of it was hanging out in space.
Dennis Metcalfe
And how about "Pip the Piper," guy dressed up like a medeival troubador?
I recall some very *scary* cartoons...and some very funny ones (Parrots
robbing a train station...).
"Super Circus"??
But maybe you've gotten older yourself. I know I have.
Bob Michaelson
rmic...@nwu.edu
Nope. Not possible. In any case, IF I've gotten older, I don't LOOK
older (objectively speaking, of course!)
Bobbie
>And does anyone remember the lovely Mary Hartline? And what show she
>was on? I saw this pathetic old blond woman being interviewed on
>local cable yesterday and it turned out she was Mary!! How did she
>get so old so fast!!
>Bobbie
The Chicago Trib had an interesting article on her life after that
circus show about a month ago. Apparently she had the world by the
tail for quite some time but now finds herself in more modest
circumstances.
She probably is not aging any faster than the rest of us ... long live
Peter Pan; I refuse to grow up!
Dennis Metcalfe
I always associate Ipana with Bucky Beaver.
"Brusha brusha brusha,
Get the new Ipana,
With the brand new flavor,
It's dandy for your teeeeeeeeeeeth."
Upon further reflection, I'm wondering if she was a lot older than we
thought she was when we were kids. Or possibly she spent too much
time in the sun on her yacht--I remember seeing it berthed at Belmont
Harbor.
Bobbie
>Upon further reflection, I'm wondering if she was a lot older than we
>thought she was when we were kids. Or possibly she spent too much
>time in the sun on her yacht--I remember seeing it berthed at Belmont
>Harbor.
>Bobbie
Hehe, when I was a kid anyone over 25 looked old! 35 was ancient :)
Without being too sexist here, it does seem as if women age faster
than guys (primarily I am thinking of movie actors and actresses).
At any rate, from what I remember about the show, she was NOT what
attracted me; it was the romance of the circus and the big animals
(four legged ones).
--
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>Hehe, when I was a kid anyone over 25 looked old! 35 was ancient :)
right.
>Without being too sexist here, it does seem as if women age faster
>than guys (primarily I am thinking of movie actors and actresses).
Too true. But she still has the long blond hair...
>At any rate, from what I remember about the show, she was NOT what
>attracted me; it was the romance of the circus and the big animals
>(four legged ones).
>--
>Dennis Metcalfe
Personally I think she was there to attract the dads. Or to make all
the little girls wish THEY could have long blond hair and wear teeny
little skirts. Actually, I DID wear the teeny skirts, but only because
I was a teeny girl at that point!!
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Funny about that, I never remember seeing Uncle Bucky, just Uncle Bob
(Bob Bell) in his place.
On our honeymoon the wife and I went to pre-overcommercialized Branson,
MO. I happened to open a local newspaper and saw a community welcome
to retired Chicago television star Ned Locke, just settling into his
new home there.
Nah. That was the plastic thing that stuck on the screen so you could
draw on it with crayolas and fill in the missing part of the picture.
Mom sure did get mad when you drew on the old Muntz without it.
>"dh magnuski" <mag...@wolfenet.com> wrote:
>
>>Ron Kritzman, thank you for that delightful run-down on Garfield Goose.
>>Now, what can you tell us about Lunchtime Little Theatre (something about
>>Uncle Bucky, Uncle Ned & Me--Uncle Ned was Ned Locke); Two-Ton Baker the
>>music maker? I printed your post.
>>
>I'm gittin' into this LATE...but I REMEMBER Uncle Ned!
>
>Changin' the thread...anyone here remember Uncle Johnny Coons?
>
>Anyone remember his sponsor?
>
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I watched Uncle Johnny Coons every day! He always had a yummy hot
lunch while I had pb & j sandwiches. Anybody remember Winky Dink?
Wasn't he the one where you could buy that plastic thing that went on
top of the tv screen to give you "color"?
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>RJL wrote:
>> Anybody remember Winky Dink?
>> Wasn't he the one where you could buy that plastic thing that went on
>> top of the tv screen to give you "color"?
>
>Nah. That was the plastic thing that stuck on the screen so you could
>draw on it with crayolas and fill in the missing part of the picture.
>Mom sure did get mad when you drew on the old Muntz without it.
Yeah! My mother REALLY hated that thing--probably why I loved it so
much, considering how stupid it really was! :-)
I even bought the Magic Cards from some drugstore. Amazing the tricks you can
pull of when every other card in the deck is cut slightly smaller.
Stupid? Think about it. Listen to the big deal everybody is making
about "interactive" entertainment. Thats exactly what this was,
in the 1950s!
> Nah. That was the plastic thing that stuck on the screen so you could
> draw on it with crayolas and fill in the missing part of the picture.
> Mom sure did get mad when you drew on the old Muntz without it.
Yeah. Draw with COLORED crayons giving you "color". RJL was right.
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>>> Anybody remember Winky Dink?
>>> Wasn't he the one where you could buy that plastic thing that went on
>>> top of the tv screen to give you "color"?
You had to send away for it, and it came with a record that haunts me
still in the dark, tiny hours:
"Magic crayons make magic pictures
In the magic window...
Winky Dink was followed by Rootie Kazootie on Saturday mornings, and
how may little kids like me poked their teeny fists through the
paper-wrapped hangars from the closet imitating Rootie's weekly
entrance?
Sorry. Acid flashback
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>In chi.general Ron Kritzman <ro...@ais.net> wrote:
>> RJL wrote:
>> > Anybody remember Winky Dink?
>> > Wasn't he the one where you could buy that plastic thing that went on
>> > top of the tv screen to give you "color"?
>> Nah. That was the plastic thing that stuck on the screen so you could
>> draw on it with crayolas and fill in the missing part of the picture.
>> Mom sure did get mad when you drew on the old Muntz without it.
>Yeah. Draw with COLORED crayons giving you "color".
No, the colored static-cling screen was an item sold from the back of
the Sunday Roto section of the Chicago American. The upper third was
"blue" (sort of) and the lower third was "green" (kinda). The idea
was that you'd get blue skies and green grass--if the TV ever showed
the right picture...
> RJL was right.
No, she was mistaken. Odd...she was always right before...
David "Voice of Experience" Witz
>r...@earthling.net (RJL) wrote:
>
>
>>>> Anybody remember Winky Dink?
>>>> Wasn't he the one where you could buy that plastic thing that went on
>>>> top of the tv screen to give you "color"?
>
>You had to send away for it, and it came with a record that haunts me
>still in the dark, tiny hours:
>
>"Magic crayons make magic pictures
>In the magic window...
I remember sending away for it--but I had forgotten the song...until
now. Thanks a bunch!
>Winky Dink was followed by Rootie Kazootie on Saturday mornings, and
>how may little kids like me poked their teeny fists through the
>paper-wrapped hangars from the closet imitating Rootie's weekly
>entrance?
>
>Sorry. Acid flashback
Must have been a guy thing. I don't remember Rootie. If you were
poking your hands through hangars then, maybe you started on acid
earlier than you thought.
>David "Still waiting for those Bozo tickets" Witz
Be patient. I put my kids on the list when they were about two and
five. We haven't gotten them yet. Of course, my kids are old now,
and probably would prefer to see Howard Stern. Hmm. Maybe I should
send for tickets? Nah--I think I'll just see the movie.
>Jude Crouch <jcr...@Mercury.mcs.net> wrote:
>
>>In chi.general Ron Kritzman <ro...@ais.net> wrote:
>>> RJL wrote:
>>> > Anybody remember Winky Dink?
>>> > Wasn't he the one where you could buy that plastic thing that went on
>>> > top of the tv screen to give you "color"?
>
>>> Nah. That was the plastic thing that stuck on the screen so you could
>>> draw on it with crayolas and fill in the missing part of the picture.
>>> Mom sure did get mad when you drew on the old Muntz without it.
>
>>Yeah. Draw with COLORED crayons giving you "color".
>
>No, the colored static-cling screen was an item sold from the back of
>the Sunday Roto section of the Chicago American. The upper third was
>"blue" (sort of) and the lower third was "green" (kinda). The idea
>was that you'd get blue skies and green grass--if the TV ever showed
>the right picture...
>
>> RJL was right.
>
>No, she was mistaken. Odd...she was always right before...
>
>David "Voice of Experience" Witz
I am TOO right! My mother NEVER would have let me put some icky thing
from the American on our precious TV set! Besides, we read the Trib.
You're probably just having another acid flashback. Go relax and grab
some coke. Uh, I mean a Coke.
>And Ned Locke was later Ringmaster Ned, and Bob Bell was later Bozo. Yes?
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Yes! But whatever happened to Aunt Nellie?
Uncle Bucky was Ted Ziegler (ei?) who later worked as a writer on the Carol
Burnett Show. For a brief period, Uncle Bucky's real life nephew (Bob Borlek)
played "Commander 5" on a competing kid's show -- along with Max The Martian
and Stubby (??) -- alas memory fades.
There wouldn't be a connection between the dog's name and a product that
was advertised a lot on the GG show, would there?
>Neal wrote:
>> times. It reminds me so much of Garfield Goose. So whenever Bosco does
>> that, I say to him "Stop Garfield Goosing!"
>There wouldn't be a connection between the dog's name and a product that
>was advertised a lot on the GG show, would there?
At least Neal named his dog Bosco and not Maurice Lenell, another hallowed
Garfield Goose (and Bozo show) advertiser.
Still love those Lenell cookies with the hypnotic little chocolate swirls.
Delicious as ever ... and they're just a hoot to spring on people doing
acid.
Wasn't there also a pig on the show?? Wasn't Uncle ned always threatening to
make sausage out of him? Vague childhood memory...
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