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bea...@my-deja.com

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Feb 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/3/00
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I'm looking for someplace to buy nova lox at a reasonable price. They
have it at Dominicks, but it's >$22/lb, which is ridiculous -- I could
fly to manhattan and buy it at Zabar's!

I'd be delighted to discover someplace in the west 'burbs, but I'd also
be happy enough to go to the Lincolnwood/Skokie/Evanston area, if that's
what it takes.

I know about the (shudder) Vita brand lox, but that stuff is icky.

Thanks in advance.

.max


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Tim Allman

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Feb 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/3/00
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Good luck finding lox in the 'burbs. These people don't even know what lox
is.
I grew up in the South Shore neighborhood in Chicago. We had a good
delicatessen
on every block. I didn't know there was a place where they didn't have good
lox.

If you find a source please let us know.

Jim Puls

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Feb 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/4/00
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Ah, Zabar's ... I used to shop there with some regularity, when I had a
project in New York. My favorite items were the grab bags of cheese odds
and ends for about $2 a pound. Never knew what I would get. The problem
was that we would find this _great_ flavor, and have only a scrap of
foil to try to match the next time. The lost chord!

Your item set me wondering what Zabar's really _does_ charge for nova
lox. Does anyone reading this know? I'd guess Citarella down the street
would ask at least $12 the lb.

It's been a while since I lived in Hyde Park (Chicago), but there were
any number of places which sold lox. How about the new Co-op on 47th and
Lake Park?

bea...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> I'm looking for someplace to buy nova lox at a reasonable price. They
> have it at Dominicks, but it's >$22/lb, which is ridiculous -- I could
> fly to manhattan and buy it at Zabar's!
>
> I'd be delighted to discover someplace in the west 'burbs, but I'd also
> be happy enough to go to the Lincolnwood/Skokie/Evanston area, if that's
> what it takes.
>

Barry Levinsky

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Feb 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/4/00
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In article <87atpm$io7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, bea...@my-deja.com says...

> I'm looking for someplace to buy nova lox at a reasonable price.
>
> I'd be delighted to discover someplace in the west 'burbs, but I'd also
> be happy enough to go to the Lincolnwood/Skokie/Evanston area, if that's
> what it takes.
>
> I know about the (shudder) Vita brand lox, but that stuff is icky.

I suppose a lot depends on what you mean by reasonable price and, for
that matter, exactly how far west is west. I'm pretty sure that you can
get good nova (which, IMHO is a contradiction in terms, but I digress) in
Los Angeles or San Francisco, but I'm sure that's farther west than you
are willing to travel. Unfortunately, if west is the direction you're
pointed, that may be your best chance.

As for the Skokie/Evanston area, here are a couple of thougts. First, if
you are familiar with Devon Avenue, I'd go there first off. Devon used to
be a classically Jewish area, that is now largely Indian. There is a
significant of nouveau religious Jews that buy foodstuffs on Devon. I'd
suggest that if you go on Devon heading west and then keeping your eyes
open for delis on the north side of the street between California and
McCormick.

Another good place to check out is on Dempster in Skokie. If you get off
Edens Expressway at Dempster heading east, you will come to Kaufman's
bagel bakery. It's on the south side of the street about a mile east of
the expressway. It's just past the Skokie Swift tracks. There is another
place, the name of which escapes me, on the north side of the street and
perhaps a block or so west of Kaufman's. Kaufman's is a stand alone
store, while the other deli is in a strip mall. I'm fairly certain that
farther east on Dempster, about 4-5 blocks west of McCormick, there is a
kosher food store that may have lox.

Good luck.

bl

Adam H. Kerman

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Feb 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/5/00
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max <bea...@my-deja.com> wrote:

>I'm looking for someplace to buy nova lox at a reasonable price. They
>have it at Dominicks, but it's >$22/lb, which is ridiculous -- I could
>fly to manhattan and buy it at Zabar's!

>I'd be delighted to discover someplace in the west 'burbs, but I'd also


>be happy enough to go to the Lincolnwood/Skokie/Evanston area, if that's
>what it takes.

>I know about the (shudder) Vita brand lox, but that stuff is icky.

Try Chicago Bagel and Bialy in Wheeling on Milwaukee Ave. They sell a very
tasty Nova, often $12 a pound.

Meg Zold

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Feb 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/5/00
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I think they're on Dundee just west of 83 at Schoenbeck (in Wheeling). They do
have good bagels; never bought the lox.
Meg

Rene G

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Feb 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/9/00
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In article <87atpm$io7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

bea...@my-deja.com wrote:
> I'm looking for someplace to buy nova lox at a reasonable price. They
> have it at Dominicks, but it's >$22/lb, which is ridiculous -- I could
> fly to manhattan and buy it at Zabar's!
>
> I'd be delighted to discover someplace in the west 'burbs, but I'd also
> be happy enough to go to the Lincolnwood/Skokie/Evanston area, if that's
> what it takes.
>
> I know about the (shudder) Vita brand lox, but that stuff is icky.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> .max


If you went to Zabar's you'd probably spend that much or more. Problem
is, the good stuff is expensive. I'm sure the quality of the Zabar's
stuff would be infinitely superior though. A quick check of the Zabar's
web site shows that Nova salmon sells for $28 per pound plus shipping.
That's for the primo quality hand-sliced stuff. Zabar's usually has 5 or
6 types of cured salmon, none of it cheap. Last time I was in NY I
bought some lox at Zabar's and was almost overwhelmed by its richness.
One bagel's worth (an H&H with Zabar's cream cheese) was more than
enough.

I've never come across anything like that in Chicago. For some
reasonable quality stuff at a pretty good price you might try New York
Kosher on Devon. I have mixed feelings about this deli but, for lack of
much competition, I suppose it is among the best in the city (I know
next to nothing about places in the suburbs).

They carry both Nova salmon and regular lox, both precut, for $9 per
pound (both on sale at the moment for $6). Though they lack the texture
and flavor of the best, they're certainly a step above the slimy, mealy,
fishy stuff that Vita sells. The Nova has a noticeable smoke flavor that
the lox lacks. The regular lox is not nearly as salty as some that I've
had.

For a real bargain try the lox trimmings for $3 per pound (on sale at
$2). You'll need a few minutes with a good knife and the final product
probably won't look so great but well over half of it is usable. You can
make a nice omelette with these trimmings of the trimmings. Just toss in
some minced green onions and maybe a few chunks of cream cheese.

If you go to NY Kosher try to stop at the Russian delis that now
outnumber the Kosher ones in the neighborhood. I remember them having
nice smoked whole fish (mackerel, sable, chubs) but don't specifically
recall the salmon. In any case they're all interesting shops and well
worth a visit. Two Sisters, Kashtan, Globus, and another I can't
remember. All within a couple blocks of NY Kosher.

For something completely different you might want to visit Calumet
Fisheries on the far southeast side. They sell several types of smoked
fish, done on the premises. All are hot-smoked, very different from
cold-smoked Nova or salt-cured lox. They have small, thick steaks of
salmon or trout, peppered or not, each with a loop of twine threaded
through. I was quite impressed with the trout, very rich, moist and
flavorful (somewhere around $8 per pound). It's a very different beast
than lox but in some ways I find it more appealing. I'm not sure if I've
had their salmon. Also smoked chubs and a few other species. The main
business of CF is fried seafood, takeout only. The things I've tried
have been surprisingly good but all their sauces are lousy. It's right
on the banks of the Calumet River in a surreal industrial landscape.

Finally, not to get too pedantic, but there are those who would say
there is no such thing as nova lox. The way I understand it, lox (or
belly lox) traditionally is salt cured while Nova (Nova Scotia smoked
salmon) has less salt and is cold-smoked. The salmon at NY Kosher more
or less follows these conventions. The terminology is widely abused and
it is not uncommon to see packages labeled nova lox.


New York Kosher
2900 W Devon Av
Chicago
773-338-3354
Sun 8am-6pm; Mon-Wed 8am-7pm; Thu 8am-9pm; Fri 8am-?

Calumet Fisheries
3259 E 95th St
Chicago
773-933-9855

Adam H. Kerman

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Feb 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/9/00
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Meg Zold <zo...@core.com> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" wrote:

>>Try Chicago Bagel and Bialy in Wheeling on Milwaukee Ave. They sell a very
>>tasty Nova, often $12 a pound.

>I think they're on Dundee just west of 83 at Schoenbeck (in Wheeling). They do


>have good bagels; never bought the lox.

That's their former location. Their landlord sold out to Walgreens and the
buildings on the site will be demolished. I haven't been by in a while, so I
don't know if it had happened. But I thought they were moving into the new
place on Milwaukee as soon as possible.

Suggestion: Call them first and verify what their address is!

Eric Holeman

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Feb 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/9/00
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While I can't vouch for the authenticity, I can definitely vouch for the
very flavorful smoked salmon from Taku Smokeries in Juneau, Alaska. The
prices are somewhat more outrageous than I remember (about $50 for a
two-poind filet), but don't appear to be out of line with what folks are
paying here, and two pounds of fish goes a long way. The cold-smoked
sockeye lox looks sort of what you expect lox to look like, while the
hot-smoked fish is more cooked and deliciously oily. Both are great with
bagels and cream cheese.

http://www.takusmokeries.com .

Usual disclaimer: no financial interest, just a satisfied customer.

--
Eric Holeman Chicago, Illinois USA
"Unmarked obstacles exist."--ski area disclaimer

Meg Zold

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Feb 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/10/00
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I just drove by there yesterday and they still are there, but I didn't look
carefully to see if they were open.

Sam Kessler

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Feb 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/11/00
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Thorndale Deli next to the El stop. For a sunday brunch, reserve your baked
goods ahead and get the whole spread there (less the OJ, onions, and
tomatoes). I like the chopped egg a lot.

bea...@my-deja.com wrote:

> I'm looking for someplace to buy nova lox at a reasonable price. They
> have it at Dominicks, but it's >$22/lb, which is ridiculous -- I could
> fly to manhattan and buy it at Zabar's!
>
> I'd be delighted to discover someplace in the west 'burbs, but I'd also
> be happy enough to go to the Lincolnwood/Skokie/Evanston area, if that's
> what it takes.
>
> I know about the (shudder) Vita brand lox, but that stuff is icky.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> .max
>

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> Before you buy.

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Adam H. Kerman

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Feb 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/11/00
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Meg Zold <zo...@core.com> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" wrote:
>>Meg Zold <zo...@core.com> wrote:
>>>"Adam H. Kerman" wrote:

>>>>Try Chicago Bagel and Bialy in Wheeling on Milwaukee Ave. They sell a very
>>>>tasty Nova, often $12 a pound.

>>>I think they're on Dundee just west of 83 at Schoenbeck (in Wheeling). They
>>>do have good bagels; never bought the lox.

>>That's their former location. Their landlord sold out to Walgreens and the
>>buildings on the site will be demolished. I haven't been by in a while, so I
>>don't know if it had happened. But I thought they were moving into the new
>>place on Milwaukee as soon as possible.

>>Suggestion: Call them first and verify what their address is!

>I just drove by there yesterday and they still are there, but I didn't look


>carefully to see if they were open.

I called them and asked. The last day Chicago Bagel and Bialy will be open at
1099 W. Dundee (northeast corner at Schoenbeck) is Sunday, February 27. This
is still a good place to buy good Nova for a short time.

Their new location will be 260 S. Milwaukee Ave., on the west side of
Milwaukee, two blocks south of Dundee, across from Hackney's and La Francais
in the heart of Wheeling's restaurant row. Unfortunately, their new building
won't be ready till May.

They are keeping the same phone number, 847 459-9009. They also have a
domain name, chicagobagel.com, but the Web site won't be up for a week or so.

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