Re: Cicero

[Morris, Edward K.]

Kent,

I took the quotation to be so standard in history books and historiography that I failed to search for its original source. How to cite it in APA style? Maybe cite a history book in which it appears or a book of quotations in which it is included (e.g., see xxxxxxxxxxxx). It is not in my Bartlett's or my Oxford books of quotations — a surprise -- but in Evans (1968). In APA style, the Evans reference might be something like this:

Cicero, M. T. (46 B.C.E.). De oratore (Ch. 34, section 120). In B. Evans (Ed., 1968), Dictionary of quotations (p. 316). Avenel Books.

Thanks for the prompt. Apologies for being so lazy. 

-Ed 

P.S. I doubt De Oratore had a publisher in 46 B.C.E, but it might exist in an English translation with a publisher.  

P.P.S. Not to be confused with Orator, but it is -- and so am I — because it is. Agh. 

Orator Ad M. Brutum (46 BC)

• Nescire autem quid ante quam natus sis acciderit, id est semper esse puerum. Quid enim est aetas hominis, nisi ea memoria rerum veterum cum superiorum aetate contexitur? (120)
• Not to know what happened before you were born is to be a child forever. For what is the time of a man, except it be interwoven with that memory of ancient things of a previous age?
• Variant translation: To be ignorant of the past is to be forever a child.
• Chapter 34, section 120

Orator (Cicero) - Wikipedia

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What’s the reference for Cicero, Ed?

Kent

On Nov 13, 2024, at 8:31 PM, Morris, Edward K. <e...@KU.EDU> wrote:

Politics aside, practice matters. Cicero: “Those who know only their own generation remain children forever.” George Santayana (1905): “Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it” (p. 284). A variation of Mark Twain’s (1869) reasons for travel: “History [a form of travel] is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it surely on this account” (p. 427).

                              References

Santayana, G. (1905). Reason in common sense. In G. Santayana (2005-2006), The life of    reason: The phases of human progress (Vol. 1). C. Scribner’s Sons.

Twain, M. (1869). Innocents abroad. American Publishing.

'Operation Wetback': What Happened Last Time US Conducted Mass Deportations

'Operation Wetback': What Happened Last Time US Conducted Mass Deportations The Eisenhower program was hailed as a fix for the 1950s border crisis, but numbers may have been manipulated by immigration services. www.msn.com

Kelly Lytle Hernandez: "We're being sold a story that mass arrests are what's going to resolve our immigration issues, when in fact it's comprehensive immigration reforms" (Newsweek; see above). In our generation, the future will likely be worse. 

 

 

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