If he knows Krsna, he is Guru!

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Sep 8, 2006, 3:38:30 PM9/8/06
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Prabhupada is probably the first person to show them a true platform
of equal dealings for all without disturbing the social balance.

As they clapped he continued. "Yes; mam ca yo 'vyabhicarena
bhakti-yogena sevate/ sa gunan samatityaitan brahma-bhuyaya kalpate. So
this Krsna consciousness movement is that it is giving immediate lift
to
everyone to come to the transcendental platform, brahma-bhuyaya
kalpate.
But general state is varnasrama-dharma.

"Therefore Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, when He was discussing with
Ramananda Raya, He first of all said, 'What is the aim of life?'

"So Ramananda Raya replied that 'First of all to begin this
varnasrama-dharma. '

"So Caitanya Mahaprabhu said, 'Yes, this is all right. But this is
external. If you know something better, please tell me.'

"So in this way, step by step everything was described by Ramananda
Raya, and Caitanya Mahaprabhu did not reject it. He said, 'It is all
right, but if you know something better...' Then at last, when
Ramananda
said, quoting one verse from Srimad-Bhagavatam, sthane sthitah
sruti-gatam tanu-van-manobhir, that it doesn't matter what you are, you
remain in your post. Sthane sthitah sruti-gatam. Through aural
reception
if you hear about Krsna, then you become perfect. That is the
statement.

"So this is required at the present moment, that you remain whatever
you
are, either brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, Englishman, Indian -- it
doesn't matter. You try to understand Krsna, that's all. If you do
that,
then everything will be perfect.

"That can be very easily done by chanting Hare Krsna mantra. Therefore
Caitanya Mahaprabhu has given this mantra -- it is from sastra -- harer
nama harer nama harer namaiva kevalam, kalau nasty eva nasty eva. In
this age, in Kali-yuga, it is very difficult to bring back the fallen
population again to the standard of brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya. It is
practically lost now. The best thing is that all of them combined
together, brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, or even less than sudra,
kirata-hunandhra- pulinda-pulkasa, take to this process of chanting and
hearing of the Lord's name. Everything will be all right.

"It is confirmed by Caitanya Mahaprabhu when he was discussing with
Ramananda Raya. He was a governor of this Madras province under the
regime of Maharaja Prataparudra of Orissa. And he was politician, but
he
was a very learned scholar in Krsna science. Therefore Caitanya
Mahaprabhu was talking with him. He was a sudra by birth, and Caitanya
Mahaprabhu was not only very exalted position, brahmana and sannyasi;
so
Caitanya Mahaprabhu was questioning and he was answering. He felt
little
hesitation, that 'Sir, You are so exalted. I am a grhastha and a
politician, and how can I...?'

"Immediately Caitanya Mahaprabhu encouraged him, 'No, no, no, don't
hesitate! Kiba sudra kiba vipra nyasi kene naya, yei krsna-tattva-
vetta
sei 'guru' haya.' He said, 'Don't hesitate!'

"It doesn't matter whether he is a grhastha or sannyasi, brahmana or
sudra. If he knows Krsna, he is guru. He is guru. That is wanted. We
are
teaching that Krsna consciousness. "

- From the "A Transcendental Diary Vol 1" by HG Hari Sauri dasa

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