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Jun 21, 2023, 2:13:14 PM6/21/23
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From: Jim Blair <jeb...@wisc.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 1:09 PM
To: Myrna Casebolt <pian...@gmail.com>; chao...@g-groups.wisc.edu <chao...@g-groups.wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: Next Chaos meeting
 
I think the problem is that different sub-cultures have formed believing different and conflicting basic "facts". And people in each get their information from different sources, ones that reinforce their established world view.  

While "climate change" is one example,  I don't think it is the best, because there are some aspects of this that most on both (all ?) sides can agree on.  Yes, there have been Global Warm periods and also Ice Ages in earth's history,  and these were not caused by humans, etc.  Yes,  CH4 and H2O do absorb the earth's black body radiation and so effect the climate and warm the atmosphere, etc.

Better example is abortion. Is a fertilized human egg a "human being"? An embryo? A fetus?  At 6 or 12 or 24 or any N months?  Is birth the dividing line?  Or development of language?  Or graduation from college, as has been suggested, (I assume in jest) 🙂 At what stage is it "at Human Being"?  And when, if any, does it deserve legal protection?  And I say that unlike Climate Change, there are no experiments that can answer those questions.

Jim



From: chao...@g-groups.wisc.edu <chao...@g-groups.wisc.edu> on behalf of Myrna Casebolt <pian...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 12:28 PM
To: chao...@g-groups.wisc.edu <chao...@g-groups.wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: Next Chaos meeting
 

Regarding (ahem)  mis and dis information, I thought you might find this interesting.  Hope all are well.  Best, Myrna

https://www.apa.org/members/content/combat-misinformation


On 6/18/2023 8:17 PM, 'Peter G. Sobol' via chaos-cs wrote:
The next meeting of the Chaos and Complex Systems will take place on Tuesday, 20 June at noon on the Terrace. We will discuss this article, provided by Jeff, in which the author responds to the worries of Stephen Hawking, Sam Altman, Geoffrey Hinton et al. by arguing that, far from wiping us out, AI will save the world.


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