Electricity Bills Keep coming every month

[Rathakrishnan M]

Dear Owners,

In some states, Electricity bills are coming once in 2 months. But here every month  and comparatively unit charge is also high :(.

Who suppose to pay these bills? me?

How it came to me? Who gave me this responsibility? Why am i doing? - No answer.

After having so much negative balance now i feel it is enough for me.. Please... it would be great if some one hold this responsibility from now on..

My Proposal:

Balaji Baskaran/me - can take up 1st Street light bill

Balaji/Vasanth - can take up 2nd street light bill

Pampapathi,Tousif,Mahesh - can share the borewell bill

Later, once we got amount in association account we can collect it back OR as usual we can tally the amount with what we suppose to pay as maintenance :). Otherwise we cannot recover our layout from destruction.

Incase proposal is not feasible please call mentioned people for a quick meeting.

Note:

I heard that already KEB started collecting information about the bills which are all having long/more pendings.

Better be late - won't suit here, imho.

Regards

Rathakrishnan 

[Balaji Bhaskaran]

Hi Owners,

I guess Rathakrishnan has only spoken about the electricity bills.
There are cases where, some of the utilities in the layout that gets
wear and tear. The borewell water bill is taking its own cost, like
the coil getting burnt, stops functioning suddenly as the circuit
fuses out and all that. There is a cost associated with this. Plus
security in the layout is getting worse. There is too much of
trespassing. We have stopped the security only because, there are no
funds.

The monthly statement keeps coming. And people who don't pay are
keeping themselves idle. People who are living here are paying the
bills to have the living through. I guess it is time to call for the
board meeting. The office bearers of this association have to show up
their responsibilities and take a call here.

@Office Bearers - If you all are not able to continue this
responsibilty, pls step down and let others take it forward. If you
are not interested, pls reply to this email and resign from your
positions. We should quickly have this decided, decide on the office
bearers and start the year 2015. I guess the fresh energy will some
light.

Owners - Your thoughts pls.

Regards,
Balaji

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[Rathakrishnan M]

Owners' thought takes time................

In last ten days, no quick meeting, no one is ready to take responsibility, no more proposals as well.

This shows that the previous proposal is fine to everyone.  So, from now on, responsibilities are as given below:

Below things comes to immediate effect, and it should be continued for next one year. After completion of one year responsibilities will be swapped.

1st streetlight KEB Bill - Balaji Baskaran.

2nd streetlight KEB Bill - Balaji

Borewell KEB Bill - Pampapathi, Tousif and Mahesh

Pay (DEC month KEB bill) online the below amount, last date is 20thDec2014.

1st streetlight KEB Bill - Rs.153 - Account number : 9764985000

2nd streetlight KEB Bill - Rs.276- Account number : 9440985000

Borewell KEB Bill     - Rs.91993 - Account number : 9720985000

Regards

Rathakrishnan.M

[Tousif Sayed]

Hi,
I cannot take up this responsibility as I am busy with my house construction related activities and I would be traveling.We need to have a meeting to find a solution for this problem.

Regards

Tousif

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Pampapathi ubgl <pampap...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Radha.. Currently I am busy with house construction.. I disagree with ur proposal
For sure I will take up the responsibility from 2016

Regards
Pampa

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[Tousif Sayed]

Hi RK/Kamath,

I have done a advance payment towards Borewell Bill of Rs 10,000/-. Please update the account statement to reflect these details.All association office bearers please negotiate with the BESCOM for the interest part and overall amount of the Bill and pay what ever we have in the association account towards this bill amount so that it nevers becomes like this again.All responsible association members who visit the layout on weekends and office bearers pay some advance payment into this account so that we can sort out this bore well issue(Bill of over 1 lakh) once for all.

Please note this transaction number for future reference: ITC1399521

Credit:

00000032569450740

Current Account

HOSUR ROAD

5,000.00

Please note this transaction number for future reference: ITC1400112

Credit:

00000032569450740

Current Account

HOSUR ROAD

5,000.00

Regards

Tousif

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From: Pampapathi U B (RBEI/EES3) <Pampap...@in.bosch.com>
Date: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Electricity Bills Keep coming every month
To: Tousif Sayed <sayed....@gmail.com>, "k.ba...@madura.adityabirla.com" <k.ba...@madura.adityabirla.com>, Rathakrishnan M <contac...@gmail.com>, Vangala Madhusudhan Reddy <madhu....@gmail.com>, "mahesh.kolal...@gmail.com" <mahesh.kolal...@gmail.com>, Manikanda Balaji Bhaskaran <balaji...@gmail.com>
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Hi All,

 

I have transferred 10k to association account. Snapshot attached. Pls confirm once you receive.

 

 

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards

 

Pampapathi U B

RBEI/EBA

 

Tel. +91 80 4109 5861

Fax +91 80 4191 0

 

From: Pampapathi ubgl [mailto:pampap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 3:47 PM
To: Pampapathi U B (RBEI/EES3)
Cc: Tousif Sayed; k.ba...@madura.adityabirla.com; Rathakrishnan M; Vangala Madhusudhan Reddy; mahesh.kolal...@gmail.com; Manikanda Balaji Bhaskaran
Subject: Re: Electricity Bills Keep coming every month

 

On Feb 10, 2015 11:54 AM, "Vasantha Raju" <vasant...@gmail.com> wrote:

All,

 

To let you all know, the BESCOM billing engineer had come to the layout & told that he'll disconnect the borewell electricity connection this week. He has been warning since last 2 months as the balance has crossed 1 lac i suppose. This time he came to our house as well as to Radhakrishnan's house to tell that if no amount is paid by this week, he'll disconnect the electricity. If the borewell is disconnected, then we all know that none of us will get water in the layout (except Balaji who has his own borewell).

 

To make sure that the electricity is not disconnected, my suggestion is that , each one of us who are in the 'To' list have to pay Rs. 10,000 towards the borewell bill immediately. There are 6 of us & which will take the total to 60K & we'll be able to manage without disconnection for few more months. I've discussed this with Radhakrishnan as well. If any one of us is not willing to pay this amount, then there are 2 options -

 

1. We'll let the BESCOM people to disconnect the connection & each of us have to manage water in our own way without caring for the layout water supply

2. Whoever refuses to pay, we'll have to disconnect the water supply to his house & the rest of us go ahead & pay Rs. 10K. The person who refuses to pay will have to manage his water in whatever way he deems fit.

 

We can do the payment through internet directly to the account number which RK has shared in this mail trail. Pl respond to this email by EOD today with your thoughts so that we can pay it by tomorrow & close it. If I don't get any response, then I'll call the BESCOM engineer to say that we are not paying & will ask him to do whatever he deems fit. Hope everyone understands the seriousness of the issue & would come out with the solution.

 

Regards,

Vasanth

TCS, Bangalore

[Mahesh Madhavachar]

Hi 

Below is the trasaction details for the transfer of 10000 towars

Date	Narration	Cheque/Ref. No.	Value Date	Withdrawal	Deposit	Closing Balance
11 Feb 2015	NEFT Dr-SBIN0010514-Chitra Shelters-NETBANK, MUM-N042150054923307	N042150054923307	11 Feb 2015	10,000.00

Tel. +91 80 4109 5861

Fax +91 80 4191 0

[Mahesh Madhavachar]

Hi 

Below is the trasaction details for the transfer of 10000.Rs towards electricity  Bill, from Mahesh.K.M, Site No-40, 2nd Phase Chaitra Shelters.

Date	Narration	Cheque/Ref. No.	Value Date	Withdrawal	Deposit	Closing Balance
11 Feb 2015	NEFT Dr-SBIN0010514-Chitra Shelters-NETBANK, MUM-N042150054923307	N042150054923307	11 Feb 2015	10,000.00

Regards

Mahesh.K.M

Site.No- 40

Chitra Shelters 2nd phase.

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Tousif Sayed <sayed....@gmail.com> wrote:

[Mahesh Madhavachar]

1st streetlight KEB Bill - Balaji Baskaran.

2nd streetlight KEB Bill - Balaji

Borewell KEB Bill - Pampapathi, Tousif and Mahesh

Pay (DEC month KEB bill) online the below amount, last date is 20thDec2014.

1st streetlight KEB Bill - Rs.153 - Account number : 9764985000

2nd streetlight KEB Bill - Rs.276- Account number : 9440985000

Borewell KEB Bill     - Rs.91993 - Account number : 9720985000

Taking the responsibility of Rs.153 and Rs.276 for 1st streetlight and  2nd streetlight KEB Bill looks not so practical.

Why should Mahesh , Pampapathi, Tousif Should Take the responsibilty of paying   Rs.91993 toward Borewell bill??? Every Layout resident is equally responsible for it. And Let us know the current balance in the Chaitra Shelter association account.

Why can't Borewell bill be paid with the fund remaining in the Chaitra Shelter association account.

Regards

Mahesh

[Rathakrishnan M]

Dear Mahesh,

I understand your feeling. 

As you 3(Tousif, Pampapathi & you) were/are constructing house i mentioned your names.

Whenever you feel difference, call us. Here We for us, no partiality.

KEB bills grew not by targeting you or anyone specifically.

And association was never reluctant to pay the bills.

In fact, how much amount we all transferred to association account is spent only for bills.

Because of that, we survived in Chaitra Shelters till today, with electricity. In Chaitra Shelters, everyday leaves us with uncertainly. Every day is a journey. This journey is a kind of relay, started with Balaji and me, then Vasanth and Balaji bhaskaran took over, Shoulder to carry forward.

Regards

Rathakrishnan.M

[Rathakrishnan M]

Dear All,

Though i see some pain in mails I am happy.

To make things right, pain and suffering is the key, without those, there is no way of life.

I am also OK to pay Rs.10000/- towards Borewell KEB bill payment.

Our Association is the real association, proved "Unity is strength".

In last 2 days, association account balance raised by Rs.30,000/-. Now our account balance is 64,216/-

So, here the rough statistics, as per account detail, non-residents are contributed more than the residents.

Thanks for all your contribution.  

@Vasanth: If you have made any part payment directly to BESCOM please record it here.

Regards

Rathakrishnan M

[Tousif Sayed]

Hi RK,

Based on emails so far to group Pamapati, me and mahesh's contribution itself is 30K,so when remaining guys adding another 10K each the total association account balance should be 94,216/- with which after negotiating with BESCOM we should be able to completely settle the bore well bill.

Regards

Tousif

[Nagaraj Gururajan]

Folks, 

I've transferred Rs. 5K to the account. 

I'm attaching the transaction screenshot for reference. 

I have no idea how many non-residents are paying the maintenance.

I haven't paid for a long time either. I hope this 5k helps atleast a little bit. 

regards,

Nagaraj.

Plot no 85, phase 2

[Vasantha Raju]

Hi RK, Kamath,

I had called the JE of BESCOM to discuss about the possibility of any reduction in the bill amount. He said its definitely not possible, as its a layout and nothing can be done. So, I've gone ahead & cleared the whole Borewell bill amount as discussed with RK. Attached is the copy of the receipts of the payment for Rs 99,313 which was outstanding.

RK & Balaji will be paying 10K each to me in cash & after deducting my contribution of 10K, I will need a cheque from the association to the tune of Rs 69,313. As of morning RK told 64K is there in the account & post that there  we was one more 5K transfer. So, if we include that we should get 69K. So, request Kamath to handover the cheque to RK in the evening (as discussed by RK) so that I can encash it.

In case of any clarification, please let me know.

Regards,

Vasanth

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Tousif Sayed <sayed....@gmail.com> wrote:

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TCS, Bangalore

[Vangala Madhusudhan Reddy]

Hi All, 

I have transferred 10000/- towards 2 plots mine and my friends.   

Plot 36 Phase 2(Madhu)  : 5000/-

Plot 57 Phase 2 (Sunil Reddy) : 5000/- 

Best Regards
Madhu

[Vangala Madhusudhan Reddy]

Someone please update the account excel. 

Thanks 

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Best Regards
Madhu

[Sadashiv Kamath]

Hi All,

67,000 Rs. cheque given to Rathakrishna towards Electricity Bills yesterday.

Total 2,50,635 Rs. paid so far.

Please share electricity bill payment receipt 

Sl. No	Date	Description	Amount
1	19-Dec-12	MCC ISSUE CHARGES---38976288	100
2	22-Dec-12	INTER CITY CHARGES---38976288	25
3	28-Dec-12	INTER CITY CHARGES---38976288	25
3	03-Mar-13	Association Registration  - Nityananda	5000
4	09-Apr-13	Electricity -Jan'13  -  Rathakrishna	9980
5	09-Apr-13	Electricity -Feb'13   -  Rathakrishna	9920
6	09-Apr-13	Electricity -Mar'13   -  Rathakrishna	4980
7	09-Apr-13	Borewell  -  Rathakrishna	12570
8	09-Apr-13	Security -  March - Rathakrishna	14000
9	26-Oct-13	To Rathakrishna	57000
10	23-Jun-14	To Rathakrishna	69985
11	11-Dec-14	INTER CITY CHARGES---38976288	50
12	12-02-2015	Electricity -   -  Rathakrishna	67000
		Total	250635

[Vangala Madhusudhan Reddy]

Hello All, 

I see there is some issue w.r.t maintenance collection and utilization. I agree that being in gated community we should pay for common amenities like maintaining streetlights, roads, Security, Bore well etc., But nothing is maintained Why in the first place maintenance to be paid and non of the Association bearers are active

Bore well motor (Electricity) which is utilization charge, is being used only who are residing at layout and why this bill should be passed on to site owners who are not residing when they are not utilizing at all? It would be fair the paid 90K+ bill should be distribute between the residents owners.

Also, Currently there is no mechanism to find who is using how much water to transform equivalent share of bore-well Electricity charge. Even we have many unknown residents who uses layout water(in turn electricity bill). We have make sure only approved connections with water meters(to be installed by owner themselves), this is help us lower bore running time and better utilization of water with affordable current bills.

If the process is streamlined(Common Maintenance based on plot area + Water usage bill among residents ), we can even follow up every site owner to pay maintenance and can be used to deploy security and other maintenance activities.

I request associations bearers take this point into consideration and paid amount is utilized correctly if anyone dis-agree we can have a meeting and come to conclusion how the bill to be paid. If this is not streamlined I am not going to pay anymore Maintenance and need the refund of the amount I have paid. 

Regards

Madhu

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Best Regards
Madhu

[Vasantha Raju]

Madhu,

Pl note that with regards to Borewell charges, whether we switch on the the borewell or not, we have to pay minimum charges to BESCOM, which has to be borne by all the site owners in the layout. I agree that the actual usage charge needs to be borne by the residents for which we need to install water meters in each of the houses (which we both discussed earlier also) & pay water usage charge which can be used to pay the borewell electricity charge on top of maintenance charges based on the built up area of each house or the site size. Once we do this, we can stop usage of water by unathorised people also or we can ask them to pay water charges.

The 99K bill (which was cleared couple of weeks ago) was not purely the usage bill for the borewell from the residents. When the association was formed, there was an outstanding amount of 45K or so which was to be paid by the owner before handing it over to the association. This was never paid by the developer, even though he had promised to give a cheque for 40K to the association. This had resulted in such a huge backlog, as BESCOM didn't accept part payments from the last few months.

Coming to maintaining the layout amenities like borewell, street lights, roads, layout cleanliness etc we need concerted effort from each one of us (whether residents or otherwise) to make it happen. In addition to effort contribution from residents we require the monetary contribution from every site owners to make it happen. Couple of weeks ago, Balaji & myself along with all the kids in the layout did some cleaning of the layout by burning all the dry leaves & grass on the main road as well as sites nearby our houses. Similarly if each one of the residents can do their bit, we can definitely improve the layout. Also, Balaji & myself have spoken to few workers nearby who are ready to clean the layout provided we pay them money. This might run into few thousand rupees & if everyone pays we can get the whole layout cleaned from weeds & unwanted growth.

Also, as I've been telling & sending mails, for the association management to be taken over by the residents so that we get ownership. Now that Kamath has said that he is not going to maintain the association account, its high time the current office bearers hand over the association to the current residents (as given in earlier mails by balaji, radhakrishna & myself). This way the residents will have better control & accountability as they are one's who are facing the problem first.

Hope association office bearers are reading this mail & will call for a meeting to handover the association management to the residents. This is my thought & others can add.

Regards,

Vasanth

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TCS, Bangalore

[Vangala Madhusudhan Reddy]

Hi,

My point is also same. None of the association member is responsible to any issues we have in layout. I have transferred 10K and mentioned it contribution for 2 different sites and it was updated wrongly. When sent mail to update correctly Got a reply stating he is not maintaining association account. Whom should I contact now ? When association is not able to maintain account why they are not transferring to resident in the layout ? 

If the association is in the hand of the owner's who has constructed houses(when more houses constructed then we can have polling for association member) they can better react to issues. If the association is not responsive site owner like me will think twice to pay maintenance. 

Current office bearers(I dont know who are all they) please make time this weekend and hand over the responsibilities residents in layout. We can also discuss how we can go ahead with maintenance. 

Regards

Madhu

      

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Best Regards
Madhu

[Sadashiv Kamath]

Association was formed arond Q4'2012. Most of association members forcibly taken-up their  responsibility (including myself) for "1 year only".

We tried to elect new members in Q1'2014. No one was shown any interest to take-up any responsibilities. 

I was maintaining association account statement from day association was formed though I have not got any support from others.

I see that there is nothing is happening in association last almost an year.

It is not required to wait for any one to hand over. Form a new team and inform to all. Nothing is going to happen if we wait for any hand over.

Please keep all payment receipt in one place so that everyone can see whenever he wants.

I will forward account statement excel file to next treasurer later

[Madhu]

Great, layout house owner's call for a meeting this weekend we can go ahead to select key active association body who can drive going forward.

Then we can come up with roadmap of steps association would take.


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Subject: Re: Electricity Bills Keep coming every month

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