Element xxxx is undefined in a Java object of type class coldfusion.runtime.VariableScope.

[John C. Bland II]

??

Works fine locally. Chunk it up to CF9 on centOS and boom...night down the toilet.

Thoughts?

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[John C. Bland II]

For clarity, it burps on variables set in a controller. Simple stuff. I'm 100% sure it isn't my code.

//inside of action

<cfset myvar = 1 />

Something that simple blows up.

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[Chris Peters]

Is this in reference to trying out version 1.1?

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[John C. Bland II]

Actually, it is in 1.1.

On Jul 8, 2010 7:29 AM, "Chris Peters" <ch...@clearcrystalmedia.com> wrote:

Is this in reference to trying out version 1.1?

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:18 AM, John C. Bland II <johncb...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Chris Peters]

What is blowing up exactly?

This is a very simple site, but it is running on CentOS + CF9 + Wheels 1.1 fine so far:
http://labs.clearcrystalmedia.com/

I know it rarely helps to say, "Works fine for me," but it does work fine for me. ;)

[John C. Bland II]

I have no idea what's blowing up. The entire thing works locally but not online.

It us like the variables don't make it to the view. Is there a setting or anything for CF I am simply missing?

I have never seen an error like this.

On Jul 9, 2010 11:35 PM, "Chris Peters" <ch...@clearcrystalmedia.com> wrote:

What is blowing up exactly?

This is a very simple site, but it is running on CentOS + CF9 + Wheels 1.1 fine so far:
http://labs.clearcrystalmedia.com/

I know it rarely helps to say, "Works fine for me," but it does work fine for me. ;)

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:33 AM, John C. Bland II <johncb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> Actually, it...

[Randy Johnson]

Could it have something to do with the case sensitive issues like Application not being capitalized or something?

Also are you on a clean install of 1.1?  IF not install it cleanly and add blocks of code to see if you can narrow it down to something in particular.

Randy

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[John C. Bland II]

I'm going to check case next.

On Jul 10, 2010 12:23 AM, "Randy Johnson" <ra...@cfconcepts.com> wrote:

Could it have something to do with the case sensitive issues like Application not being capitalized or something?

Also are you on a clean install of 1.1?  IF not install it cleanly and add blocks of code to see if you can narrow it down to something in particular.

Randy

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 1:14 AM, John C. Bland II <johncb...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> I have no idea what's blowing up. The entire thing works locally but not online.
>

> It us like ...

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[joshua clingenpeel]

I was getting this a bunch, and it usually happened when a model
instance was referring to an association that didn't exist, or was
misconfigured (or I had a typo). Sometimes it occurred at a findall
when there was a misconfigured select list or includes or calculated
property.

Neve saw it with a plain old local variable in an action.

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[John C. Bland II]

It works 100% locally without fail.

On Jul 11, 2010 2:25 PM, "joshua clingenpeel" <joshua.cl...@gmail.com> wrote:

I was getting this a bunch, and it usually happened when a model
instance was referring to an association that didn't exist, or was
misconfigured (or I had a typo). Sometimes it occurred at a findall
when there was a misconfigured select list or includes or calculated
property.

Neve saw it with a plain old local variable in an action.

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[John C. Bland II]

BOGUS!

Wheels requires absolute file naming. The "laziness" of coding CF with the "case of the day" (choose camel today, proper tomorrow) bit me here.

Error 1:

- Filename needed to be Blah.cfc [proper case]

Error 2:

- extends="controller" needed to be extends="Controller" [proper case]

Since Wheels, by default, assumes a lot (by convention) the case where blah.cfc != Blah.cfc they assumed a Blah controller and expected a /views/blah/index.cfm view. Since that view existed, Wheels used it. BUT...that view expected some values passed to it.

Convention is basically the killer here and testing on *nix vs a lax' OSX filename system bit me.

This is something to remember and something I'd like Wheels to fix for me. I shouldn't have to worry about case in a language not concerned with it. :-/

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[Per Djurner]

That's a good idea.
Wheels could check for both lower case and camel case versions of the
controller files and just use the one that exists.
That would solve error #1.

Not sure how we could fix error #2 though, any ideas?

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:07 AM, John C. Bland II

[raulriera]

Actually I don't think this is a Wheels problem, if you try to refer /
images/Logo.png on Linux and the file is named /images/logo.png you
won't find it either...

On Jul 12, 8:07 am, "John C. Bland II" <johncblan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> BOGUS!
>
> Wheels requires absolute file naming. The "laziness" of coding CF with the
> "case of the day" (choose camel today, proper tomorrow) bit me here.
>
> Error 1:
> - Filename needed to be Blah.cfc [proper case]
>
> Error 2:
> - extends="controller" needed to be extends="Controller" [proper case]
>
> Since Wheels, by default, assumes a lot (by convention) the case where
> blah.cfc != Blah.cfc they assumed a Blah controller and expected a
> /views/blah/index.cfm view. Since that view existed, Wheels used it.
> BUT...that view expected some values passed to it.
>
> Convention is basically the killer here and testing on *nix vs a lax' OSX
> filename system bit me.
>
> This is something to remember and something I'd like Wheels to fix for me. I
> shouldn't have to worry about case in a language not concerned with it. :-/
>
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> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 2:56 PM, John C. Bland II <johncblan...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > It works 100% locally without fail.
>
> > On Jul 11, 2010 2:25 PM, "joshua clingenpeel" <

> > joshua.clingenp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I was getting this a bunch, and it usually happened when a model
> > instance was referring to an association that didn't exist, or was
> > misconfigured (or I had a typo). Sometimes it occurred at a findall
> > when there was a misconfigured select list or includes or calculated
> > property.
>
> > Neve saw it with a plain old local variable in an action.
>

[John C. Bland II]

@per

#2 is a mistake on our behalf. I've informed my team and we're working it out, making notes, and never forgetting it.

@raul

It is absolutely a Wheels problem. You see, your example fails. Wheels...keeps working.

<cfset blah = model("blahStuff").new() />

is different than 

<cfset blah = model("blahstuff").new() />

It literally fails to find the model in one instance and not another. That's a problem because Wheels assumes, by convention, certain things which means it works perfectly fine like nothing is wrong until you have code in there that is supposed to do something on init or a callback or a custom function. So it will assume you mean the "blahstuff" table and look for the BlahStuff.cfc (in the first case) and the "Blahstuff.cfc" (in the second case). One exists...one doesn't. CF is now case sensitive because of this.

I'm not against convention but when a "broken" site appears to work then you get an odd error telling you something is missing (ex - it told me a relationship was missing which was not) you go crazy trying to figure it out.

It isn't about Wheels' way being wrong but it would be super nice if Wheels was able to help debug this. I'm fine with the conventions just not with wasting hours debugging a file naming and string passing into function problem.

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[raulriera]

Fine, do a cfselect query with a tablename badly camelcased and watch
ur app go boom.. I was just illustrating my point

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[John C. Bland II]

Who uses cfselect?

Also, don't take it personal. I was illustrating my point/opinion on how to improve debugging as it relates to deployment.

On Jul 12, 2010 2:06 PM, "raulriera" <rier...@gmail.com> wrote:

Fine, do a cfselect query with a tablename badly camelcased and watch
ur app go boom.. I was just illustrating my point

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> #2 is a mistake on ...

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[John C. Bland II]

I created the feature request here:

Provided better "reporting" for improperly cased models/controllers

Please join in the discussion and/or vote it up. I provided two solutions but others might have different ways of working this out. It would, IMO, be a great enhancement.

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[tpet...@gmail.com]

@john,

I feel bad that you wasted a lot of time trying to figure this out
only for it to be a case sensitivity issue.

In the future, remember that you have the option to use the class
argument (modelName in trunk) to tell wheels what model to look for,
thus bypassing the wheels "magic". I would suggest doing this if
you're going to be dealing with different oses for your development
and production configurations.


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> I created the feature request here:
> Provided better "reporting" for improperly cased

> models/controllers<detail?id=513&colspec=ID Type Status Severity
> Milestone Owner Summary>
>
> <detail?id=513&colspec=ID Type Status Severity Milestone Owner Summary>Please

> join in the discussion and/or vote it up. I provided two solutions but
> others might have different ways of working this out. It would, IMO, be a
> great enhancement.
>
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> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:09 PM, John C. Bland II <johncblan...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Who uses cfselect?
>
> > Also, don't take it personal. I was illustrating my point/opinion on how to
> > improve debugging as it relates to deployment.
>

> > On Jul 12, 2010 2:06 PM, "raulriera" <rierar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Fine, do a cfselect query with a tablename badly camelcased and watch
> > ur app go boom.. I was just illustrating my point
>
> > On Jul 12, 6:09 pm, "John C. Bland II" <johncblan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > @per
> > > #2 is a mistake on ...
>
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> > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 5:17 AM, raulriera <rierar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Actually I don't think...
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[John C. Bland II]

We noticed that and have made the change to modelName.

No worries. I learned something there.

On Jul 14, 2010 6:13 PM, "tpet...@gmail.com" <tpet...@gmail.com> wrote:

@john,

I feel bad that you wasted a lot of time trying to figure this out
only for it to be a case sensitivity issue.

In the future, remember that you have the option to use the class
argument (modelName in trunk) to tell wheels what model to look for,
thus bypassing the wheels "magic". I would suggest doing this if
you're going to be dealing with different oses for your development
and production configurations.


On Jul 14, 12:48 pm, "John C. Bland II" <johncblan...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I created the feature request here:
> Provided better "reporting" for improperly cased

> models/controllers<detail?id=513&colspec=ID Type Status Severity
> Milestone Owner Summary>
>
> <detail?id=513&colspec=ID Type Status Severity Milestone Owner Summary>Please

> join in the discussion and/or vote it up. I provided two solutions but

> others might have differe...

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> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:09 PM, John C. Bland II <johncblan...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> > Who uses cfselect?
>
> > Also, don't take it personal. I was illustrating my point/opinion on ...

> > On Jul 12, 2010 2:06 PM, "raulriera" <rierar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> > Fine, do a cfselect quer...

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>
> > > > .
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