island biogeography: The Final Frontier

[Katrine Whiteson]

Hi Guys,

I finally have what seems like a final version of this Island Biogeography piece, and a seal of approval from Paul Rainey about the narrative.

I am including this draft. At Forest's suggestion, I still plan to add a little more about what is found in sterile lungs and what Yan Wei found in her Rothia study. But I'd like to submit before Thanksgiving, so here you have close to what the final version should be, with some tracked changes from Paul. I am hoping that I have implemented all the comments at this point, but if you have any further suggestions please let me know.

This has been really fun... yesterday Doug and I were talking about writing something with the Telluride group every time :). Thanks for all of your ideas and contributions.

Katrine

[Jonathan Kirk Harris]

Katrine,
I think this looks good. A few minor changes.

Kirk
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[Robby Quinn]

Hello CF Lung Biogeographers,

There have been requests from coauthors for adjustment of the figure that are somewhat contradictory. Overall they are minor, but I felt it is likely best to put it to a vote. So attached are three versions of the figure. Please respond with your vote of which version you like best A, B or C. Democracy colleagues!

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Rob Quinn

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[Jonathan Kirk Harris]

I'm leaning towards C, but think the top panel would need a good legend.
Kirk
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Hello CF Lung Biogeographers,
There have been requests from coauthors for adjustment of the figure that are somewhat contradictory. Overall they are minor, but I felt it is likely best to put it to a vote. So attached are three versions of the figure. Please respond with your vote of which version you like best A, B or C. Democracy colleagues!
If we do not hear from you by Wednesday 5pm we will assume you abstain from a vote.

Rob Quinn

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Katrine Whiteson <katrine...@gmail.com<mailto:katrine...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Guys,

I finally have what seems like a final version of this Island Biogeography piece, and a seal of approval from Paul Rainey about the narrative.

I am including this draft. At Forest's suggestion, I still plan to add a little more about what is found in sterile lungs and what Yan Wei found in her Rothia study. But I'd like to submit before Thanksgiving, so here you have close to what the final version should be, with some tracked changes from Paul. I am hoping that I have implemented all the comments at this point, but if you have any further suggestions please let me know.

This has been really fun... yesterday Doug and I were talking about writing something with the Telluride group every time :). Thanks for all of your ideas and contributions.

Katrine






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[Wagner, Brandie D]

I think B best represents what is written in the text.

I do like C as well, but think some additional explanation would be required. I'm not sure I understand it well enough to determine whether its explanation would significantly add to the paper.

Hope you all have a wonderful Thanksgiving,
Brandie

[Wagner, Brandie D]

Katrine,

This version reads very well and I really like the changes made from the last version. I too made very minor suggestions.

Best,

Brandie

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[Megan Bergkessel]

I vote for B, because it seems to fit the text best.  However, if the new plot is more correct based on the original island biogeography work, then we could amend the text to accommodate it.  I feel like we focus a lot on the analogy of different parts of the airway as different islands and never really discuss different people as different islands, so I think the people as islands part of the figure is a little confusing.  We could change the text to mention it, though, if people like it.

Just my 2c - I think any of those choices would be acceptable!

-megan

[Jim Sullivan]

Hi all,

Not sure if it is too late to incorporate edits, but I have a few suggestions in the attached version. The MS reads really well and is very nice! Feel free to take or leave any edits you wish (or can at this point).

As for the figure, if C is used, it would seem to require significant revision to the text to capture the additional complexity (ie, we never reference island size are the number of specific niches contained therein within the text), and agreed that 'B' fits best with the text. So my rank ordering is B->A-> C.

Lastly, nothing that requires change to this beautiful MS, but I was struck by the addition of text describing the fact that microbes can have effects on distal systems / island (eg, through systemic host responses). I certainly don't think that we want to extend the analogy here, but it seems that the parallel of global biogeochemistry, whereby a single community of organisms can effect climate (and therefore exert selective pressures on distal ecosystems) is an interesting extension. Something to keep in mind for the next macroecology / human microbiomics opinion piece where we place lung pathophysiology more broadly in the context of 'whole-host' organismal microbial and host interactions...

Have a great Thanksgiving, everyone.

Best,

Jim

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[mfip mfip]

Hi all,

Not sure maybe I'm too late. 

My order ranking is  C>B>A (A appears to complexe in my opinion)

Cheers

Laurence

2013/11/27 Jim Sullivan <james_s...@vrtx.com>