Anyone using JBoss J2EE Server?

[Yvan]

Is anyone here successfully using JBoss J2EE Server for CFEverywhere
apps? I'm considering possibly moving away from Bluedragon in favor of
something that's open source, and JBoss seems promising in this regard.
Are any of you using it? If so, are there any tips you could share
regarding the configuration?

Thanks,
- yvan

[Phil Cruz]

I haven't tried JBoss.  So you're moving to jsp instead of cfm?  Jetty is open source as well.

btw, Jetty has had some history with JBoss http://jetty.mortbay.org/jetty/jboss/index.html

-Phil

[Yvan]

Doh ... So JBoss isn't a CFML parser? That bites. I definitely need
to stick to cofdfusion. Do you know if there are any free / open
source J2EE servers available that can parse CFML? I love Bludedragon
n' all, .. but in my experience, there's always some free / open source
alternative available. I was almost certain that JBoss would be the
ticket, but apparently not. Beat :(

- yvan

[Charlie Arehart]

Yvan, do you really need an entirely free solution? As has been said here
repeatedly, while the list price of BlueDragon/J2EE is $2499/cpu, when it
comes to bundling a product with BlueDragon that price goes out the window
and can be negotiated as a percentage of your sales price.

It does need to lead to a certain level of revenue to justify all that goes
into supporting such a deal, but clearly if one has a product to sell and
bundling BD is what makes the product possible in the first place, then
giving up a percent of the revenue to include BD (or raising the price to
cover embedding it) seems a small price to pay.

But, no, if you want to something entirely free, BD/J2EE isn't a solution
for you. Of course, the next step up for a CFML engine running on J2EE is
CFMX enterprise, starting at $5,999. Neither product is open source, and
each has a stable of engineers, support folks, product management, etc who
need to be compensated for their efforts, as well as companies behind the
products who need to recoup their investments in the products.

Charlie Arehart
CTO, New Atlanta Communications, makers of BlueDragon
(678) 256-5395 cha...@newatlanta.com
www.newatlanta.com/bluedragon/

[Yvan]

It's not so much a need but a preference. At this point in time, I'm
not looking to sell any of my apps, so I have no interest in setting up
licensing agreements of any kind, however generous they may be. Quite
honestly (and I know you're going to roll your eyes when I say this),
-- I was discouraged when I learned that the developer mode alert
messages in BD Server are persistent after the 30-day trial. Although I
acknowledge and respect New Atlanta's rationale behind this, it
deflated my excitement about CFEverywhere development, and caused me to
re-think my approach.

I trust that your staff of engineers and support personell will
continue to be well compensated for their efforts, all of which is well
deserved. But I've been on the web long enough to know that there's
always some free / open source alternative available for just about any
piece of software, and I make it a point to always explore that avenue.
These alternatives, in my experience, are sometimes very good and are
well supported, .. so it makes sense to at least check them out.

Perhaps Bludedragon will end up being my solution for CFEverywhere in
the long run, at which point I will contact NewAtlanta to inquire about
the licensing (thanks for emailing me that contact information on the
BD list, by the way). But for the time being, I'm on a mission to find
the free alternatives (if any), and to see if how they measure up.

Cheers,
- yvan