Rove Did It!

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According to Lawrence O'Donnell (noon, July 2nd):

"I revealed in yesterday's taping of the McLaughlin Group that Time
magazine's emails will reveal that Karl Rove was Matt Cooper's source.
I have known this for months but didn't want to say it at a time that
would risk me getting dragged into the grand jury.

McLaughlin is seen in some markets on Friday night, so some websites
have picked it up, including Drudge, but I don't expect it to have
much impact because McLaughlin is not considered a news show and it
will be pre-empted in the big markets on Sunday because of tennis.

Since I revealed the big scoop, I have had it reconfirmed by yet
another highly authoritative source. Too many people know this. It
should break wide open this week. I know Newsweek is working on an
'It's Rove!' story and will probably break it tomorrow."

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sounds like what we know of Rove. "Oppose ME will you...."

Dana

On 7/2/05, Gruss Gott <grus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> According to Lawrence O'Donnell (noon, July 2nd):
>
> "I revealed in yesterday's taping of the McLaughlin Group that Time
> magazine's emails will reveal that Karl Rove was Matt Cooper's source.
> I have known this for months but didn't want to say it at a time that
> would risk me getting dragged into the grand jury.
>
> McLaughlin is seen in some markets on Friday night, so some websites
> have picked it up, including Drudge, but I don't expect it to have
> much impact because McLaughlin is not considered a news show and it
> will be pre-empted in the big markets on Sunday because of tennis.
>
> Since I revealed the big scoop, I have had it reconfirmed by yet
> another highly authoritative source. Too many people know this. It
> should break wide open this week. I know Newsweek is working on an
> 'It's Rove!' story and will probably break it tomorrow."
>
>

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None dare call it Treason but what is it?

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sounds like what we know of Rove. "Oppose ME will you...."

Dana

On 7/2/05, Gruss Gott <grus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> According to Lawrence O'Donnell (noon, July 2nd):
>
> "I revealed in yesterday's taping of the McLaughlin Group that Time
> magazine's emails will reveal that Karl Rove was Matt Cooper's source.
> I have known this for months but didn't want to say it at a time that
> would risk me getting dragged into the grand jury.
>
> McLaughlin is seen in some markets on Friday night, so some websites
> have picked it up, including Drudge, but I don't expect it to have
> much impact because McLaughlin is not considered a news show and it
> will be pre-empted in the big markets on Sunday because of tennis.
>
> Since I revealed the big scoop, I have had it reconfirmed by yet
> another highly authoritative source. Too many people know this. It
> should break wide open this week. I know Newsweek is working on an
> 'It's Rove!' story and will probably break it tomorrow."
>
>

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The person that did it (possibly Rove) committed treason. You can't reveal the name of an undercover CIA operative..

--- On Tuesday, July 05, 2005 1:43 PM, Ken Ketsdever scribed: ---

>
> None dare call it Treason but what is it?
>

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Now if only we can get the media to call it treason. Can we make his
execution a pay for view event?

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From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:ho...@coolfusion.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:53 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Rove Did It!

The person that did it (possibly Rove) committed treason. You can't
reveal the name of an undercover CIA operative..

--- On Tuesday, July 05, 2005 1:43 PM, Ken Ketsdever scribed: ---
>
> None dare call it Treason but what is it?
>

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Would it be a stretch to think that it could be construed to be a conspiracy
to harm or murder someone?


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-----Original Message-----
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:ho...@coolfusion.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 1:53 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Rove Did It!

The person that did it (possibly Rove) committed treason. You can't reveal
the name of an undercover CIA operative..

--- On Tuesday, July 05, 2005 1:43 PM, Ken Ketsdever scribed: ---
>
> None dare call it Treason but what is it?
>

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Perjury. Possibly conspiracy by the White House. Politics.

On 7/5/05, Ken Ketsdever <ken.ke...@bloodsource.org> wrote:
> None dare call it Treason but what is it?

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BTW - some interesting articles pop up when you search the news on google:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=rove+treason&btnG=Search+News

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>
> None dare call it Treason but what is it?
>

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> Would it be a stretch to think that it could be construed to be a
conspiracy > to harm or murder someone?

Not at all. "Outing" an undercover operative is the kind of thing that gets
those operatives killed. That is why the identity of operatives is
classified. That is why revealing the identities even after the fact is a
felony.
If Rove _is_ the source of the information then he has committed a federal
crime, if he merely confirmed the information, then he is an accesory after
the fact. Not necessarily treason, but still a felony nonetheless.
I expect that the "investigation" into this matter will, of course,
exonerate Rove, For after all, where would the Emporer be without his Vader?

--
will


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and that would just be unacceptable."
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> William wrote:
> Where would the Emporer be without his Vader?
>

I thought Rove was the Emperor ...

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No, that's Cheney...

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Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 02:57 pm
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Importance: Low

> William wrote:
> Where would the Emporer be without his Vader?
>

I thought Rove was the Emperor ...

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> Stewart wrote:
> No, that's Cheney...
>

Yeah, it's hard to pick. I mean when there's so many gov't officials
attempting to snuff your liberties, it's hard to pick who's organizing
it. I suppose we can blame the voters that gave them away ...

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Rove is Dooku.... the wannabe :)

sas

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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grus...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 03:03 pm
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Importance: Low

> Stewart wrote:
> No, that's Cheney...
>

Yeah, it's hard to pick. I mean when there's so many gov't officials
attempting to snuff your liberties, it's hard to pick who's organizing
it. I suppose we can blame the voters that gave them away ...

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Na.... Rove is more like General Greivous. Cheney is the Chancellor who
you don't know is the Sith Lord, and Bush is... Darth Idiot.

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I blame the system to an extent, there's no room for third parties anymore. And the third parties that do exist are MORE extremist than the Dems and the GOP.

In Bush II's first election I was all set to vote Reform Party until they came up with Pat Buchannon as their nominee, he's one step away from a Klan robe, and two steps away from insane.

I'd thought they'd come up with someone more along the lines of a Jesse Ventura with more political clout.

Wound up caving in and voting democratic, it was the only choice on the ballot.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 03:03 pm
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Rove Did It!
Importance: Low

> Stewart wrote:
> No, that's Cheney...
>

Yeah, it's hard to pick. I mean when there's so many gov't officials
attempting to snuff your liberties, it's hard to pick who's organizing
it. I suppose we can blame the voters that gave them away ...

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Darth Idiot... Jar Jar goes to the Dark Side?

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Na.... Rove is more like General Greivous. Cheney is the Chancellor who
you don't know is the Sith Lord, and Bush is... Darth Idiot.


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Rove is Dooku.... the wannabe :)

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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grus...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 03:03 pm
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Subject: Re: Rove Did It!
Importance: Low

> Stewart wrote:
> No, that's Cheney...
>

Yeah, it's hard to pick. I mean when there's so many gov't officials
attempting to snuff your liberties, it's hard to pick who's organizing
it. I suppose we can blame the voters that gave them away ...

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You know, it's kind of fun and all to make these goofy comparisons but
to me the fact that we're so easily distractable is what makes it
possible for things like this to happen.

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We just need to remember that W can't be reelected. Of course, Jeb could
run, then that other George Bush (the young Hispanic one)... where will it
end?

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> Na.... Rove is more like General Greivous. Cheney is the Chancellor who
> you don't know is the Sith Lord, and Bush is... Darth Idiot.

I can see the Cheney/Chancellor thing, but then, nobody has _ever_ mistaken
Cheney for a champion of democracy...
I refer to Rove as Vader because of his uncanny ability to use the force
for evil. A mere wave of his hand has the press chasing phantoms and
believing the lies as gospel (Swiftboats anyone? McCain a turncoat/traitor
for breaking under torture?).
I disagree with the Greivous/Rove pairing simply because he is too adept at
using the force...perhaps Grievous/Rumsfeld?
Bush is a Dark Lord, no doubt about it and his mastery of the Dark side of
the Force is surpassed only by his apprentice, Vader/Rove.
Think about it. Rove simply has to suggest that he, "finds your lack of
faith...disturbing." All it takes from him to shut up a nosy reporter,
scared to lose "access." Rove's power is seemingly limitless...

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> You know, it's kind of fun and all to make these goofy comparisons but
> to me the fact that we're so easily distractable is what makes it
> possible for things like this to happen.

Right you are. When the press has been so cowed by the current
administration that they are afraid to ask tough questions for fear of
losing access, it is a sad state of affairs.

Even more sad is that the people are not demanding that the press ask
the tough questions.

And are not asking themselves...

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I was researching this a little more and found this blog comment:

Karl Rove is like a slinky...
not really good for anything but he can still bring a smile to your
face if your push him down a flight of stairs.

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> Matthew wrote:
> Na.... Rove is more like General Greivous. Cheney is the Chancellor who
> you don't know is the Sith Lord, and Bush is... Darth Idiot.
>

LOL! Mr. Bush seems more like those corrupt trade aliens - always
hovering around power, but always being used by someone smarter.

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> Karl Rove is like a slinky...
> not really good for anything but he can still bring a smile to your
> face if your push him down a flight of stairs.

LOL!

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> William wrote:
> When the press [is] afraid to ask tough questions for fear of

> losing access, it is a sad state of affairs.
>

"Mr. President, on the eve of the invasion of Iraq, how do you pray?"

What a great f-in' question! The President is on the eve of invasion
and our press is his publicity agency.

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ah now talk about richy deserved....

Dana

On 7/5/05, Ken Ketsdever <ken.ke...@bloodsource.org> wrote:

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that's great.

On 7/5/05, William Bowen <willia...@gmail.com> wrote:

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The problem with executing him and making it into a pay for view event
is that the GOP would probably turn it into a fund raising event.

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ah now talk about richy deserved....

Dana

On 7/5/05, Ken Ketsdever <ken.ke...@bloodsource.org> wrote:
> Now if only we can get the media to call it treason. Can we make his
> execution a pay for view event?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:ho...@coolfusion.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:53 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Rove Did It!
>
> The person that did it (possibly Rove) committed treason. You can't
> reveal the name of an undercover CIA operative..
>
> --- On Tuesday, July 05, 2005 1:43 PM, Ken Ketsdever scribed: ---
> >
> > None dare call it Treason but what is it?
> >
>
>
>
>
>

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Yeah, like the really important issue about G8? That Bush isn't going
to eat haggis.

On 7/5/05, Gruss Gott <grus...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Mr. President, on the eve of the invasion of Iraq, how do you pray?"
>
> What a great f-in' question! The President is on the eve of invasion
> and our press is his publicity agency.
>
>

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lol :) what journalism has sunk to...

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> Ken wrote:
> Now if only we can get the media to call it treason. Can we make his
> execution a pay for view event?
>

NO! If we strike him down he will become more powerful than we can
possibly imagine.

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But will he be resurrected

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> Ken wrote:
> Now if only we can get the media to call it treason. Can we make his
> execution a pay for view event?
>

NO! If we strike him down he will become more powerful than we can
possibly imagine.

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Oh please.

Not one da** thing is going to happen to Rove or anyone else that
leaked the name.

It's the reporter who has to pay with jail time, and the CIA operative
and her family that has to pay as well.

The Bush Administration will come through this unscathed as always.
Kudos to them, tough nuts for Americans is the way it's always been
with this administration.

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And they called Reagan the Teflon president. Bush pale's Reagan.

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Oh please.

Not one da** thing is going to happen to Rove or anyone else that
leaked the name.

It's the reporter who has to pay with jail time, and the CIA operative
and her family that has to pay as well.

The Bush Administration will come through this unscathed as always.
Kudos to them, tough nuts for Americans is the way it's always been
with this administration.

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> Vivec wrote:
> Not one da** thing is going to happen to Rove or anyone else that
> leaked the name.
>

Ummm I dunno. I'm hearing rumblings that Mr. Rove will be forced out
of the Whitehouse. Prosecution is difficult because you have to prove
numerous things including that Mr. Rove KNEW that Ms. Plame's
indentity was being concealed.

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They'll just relocate him to head of propaganda for the shadow government.