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.....and this is why our health care system is so god-damned expensive in
this country:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/life_epidural_dc

Man faints, dies after seeing epidural

Thu Jul 7, 7:03 PM ET

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A California woman is suing a hospital for
wrongful death because her husband fainted and suffered a fatal injury
after helping delivery room staff give her a pain-killing injection.

------------------------

I mean, it was an unfortunate accident, but I really don't see where the
hospital is to blame in any way...
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ok if my husband dies at the birth of our child i would be just a
little bit upset.
who is going to help raise the child?
i do think the hospital is a little responsible.

got to suck to go home to an empty house with a new baby after that...

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> From: Ray Champagne [mailto:r...@cvwp.com]

> .....and this is why our health care system is so god-damned
> expensive in this country:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/life_epidural_dc
>
> Man faints, dies after seeing epidural

And today I found out that my insurance went up $25 a month! On top of that
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How is the hospital responsible? In what way?

I agree with you that it sucks for the family - that was never in doubt.
The child doesn't have a dad, the mom doesn't have a husband, etc. I
just don't see where the hospital is responsible. The guy passed out at
the sight of a needle. How is that the hospital's fault? I could see
if they knew what his reaction was going to be, and didn't plan for it,
but there was no mention of that in there at all.

Paul Ihrig wrote:
> ok if my husband dies at the birth of our child i would be just a
> little bit upset.
> who is going to help raise the child?
> i do think the hospital is a little responsible.
>
> got to suck to go home to an empty house with a new baby after that...
>
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> ok if my husband dies at the birth of our child i would be
> just a
> little bit upset.
> who is going to help raise the child?
> i do think the hospital is a little responsible.

> got to suck to go home to an empty house with a new baby
> after that...

The same thing might have happened to him where he works... if he
happened to see something he didn't like and let himself get worked up
about it and feint over it and hit his head on ... a hand-cart in a
loading-dock for instance... even though the loading dock might not be
considered an "unsafe work environment". I wouldn't expect to sue the
hospital any more than I would expect to sue his employer in the
alternate scenario. So I think, the real moral of the story is, don't
be a pussy who feints at the sight of anything that's unusual to you
and you won't sustain unnecessary falling injuries (which are usually
trivial).


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> From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:in...@turnkey.to]

> So I think, the real moral of the
> story is, don't be a pussy who feints at the sight of

> anything that's unusual...

HAHAHAHAHA

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It was a matter of time. If seeing the epidural go in was enough to
make him faint, imagine what would have happened once the OB showed him
the placenta.

- Jim

Ray Champagne wrote:

>.....and this is why our health care system is so god-damned expensive in
>this country:
>
>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/life_epidural_dc
>
>Man faints, dies after seeing epidural
>
>Thu Jul 7, 7:03 PM ET
>
>LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A California woman is suing a hospital for
>wrongful death because her husband fainted and suffered a fatal injury
>after helping delivery room staff give her a pain-killing injection.
>
>------------------------
>
>I mean, it was an unfortunate accident, but I really don't see where the
>hospital is to blame in any way...
>
>

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> From: Jim Campbell [mailto:j...@inomi.com]

> It was a matter of time. If seeing the epidural go in was
> enough to make him faint, imagine what would have happened
> once the OB showed him the placenta.

I just fainted. Expect a lawsuit later today :-)

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Puss :)

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> From: Jim Campbell [mailto:j...@inomi.com]
> It was a matter of time. If seeing the epidural go in was
> enough to make him faint, imagine what would have happened
> once the OB showed him the placenta.

I just fainted. Expect a lawsuit later today :-)

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> From: SStewart [mailto:SSte...@ecslimited.com]
> Puss :)

HA! Anytime :-)




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Three two minute rounds 30 sec in between, full contact :-)

We'll let Gruss and Sam officiate :)

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> From: SStewart [mailto:SSte...@ecslimited.com]
> Puss :)

HA! Anytime :-)

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>ok if my husband dies at the birth of our child i would be just a
little bit upset.

So, uh, you have a husband, Paul?

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> From: SStewart [mailto:SSte...@ecslimited.com]

> Three two minute rounds 30 sec in between, full contact :-)
>

> We'll let Gruss and Sam officiate :-)

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As long as I can have my regular coach in my corner :)
I'll take larry as my second

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> From: SStewart [mailto:SSte...@ecslimited.com]

> As long as I can have my regular coach in my corner :) I'll
> take larry as my second

Whoever you need. :-)
Larry and Tony might bail on us though and have a hookah party in the front
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Hmmmm... might make interesting... which one of the three in front of me is the target... :)

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> From: SStewart [mailto:SSte...@ecslimited.com]
> As long as I can have my regular coach in my corner :) I'll
> take larry as my second

Whoever you need. :-)
Larry and Tony might bail on us though and have a hookah party in the front
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> From: SStewart [mailto:SSte...@ecslimited.com]

> Hmmmm... might make interesting... which one of the three in
> front of me is the target... :)

LOL. Me.

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>> From: Jim Campbell [mailto:j...@inomi.com]
>> It was a matter of time. If seeing the epidural go in
>> was
>> enough to make him faint, imagine what would have
>> happened
>> once the OB showed him the placenta.

> I just fainted. Expect a lawsuit later today :-)

heh... heh... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

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It would make for a very weird fight that's for sure. Instead of
wrestling how about making it sword and shield. If you're going to
have a blood sport lets go all the way.

larry

On 7/8/05, SStewart <SSte...@ecslimited.com> wrote:
> As long as I can have my regular coach in my corner :)
> I'll take larry as my second
>
> sas
>
> Scott A. Stewart,
> Web Application Developer
>
> Engineering Consulting Services, Ltd. (ECS)
> 14026 Thunderbolt Place, Suite 300
> Chantilly, VA 20151
> Phone: (703) 995-1737
> Fax: (703) 834-5527
>
> "Many thousands of years ago, a blue faced Pict stepped on a bloated sheep carcass... and thus the Pipes were born"
>
> .... the Scottish Rogues
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:mtan...@cfcoder.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 10:12 am
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: everyone's looking for a quick buck....
> Importance: Low
>
> > From: SStewart [mailto:SSte...@ecslimited.com]
> > Three two minute rounds 30 sec in between, full contact :-)
> >
> > We'll let Gruss and Sam officiate :-)
>
> I'm in. Tony Weeg in my corner man!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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I resemble that insinuation.

larry

On 7/8/05, Michael T. Tangorre <mtan...@cfcoder.com> wrote:
> > From: SStewart [mailto:SSte...@ecslimited.com]
> > As long as I can have my regular coach in my corner :) I'll
> > take larry as my second
>
> Whoever you need. :-)
> Larry and Tony might bail on us though and have a hookah party in the front
> row!
>
>
>
>
>

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A lawsuit? *faint*

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> From: Jim Campbell [mailto:j...@inomi.com]

> A lawsuit? *faint*

Shit. Now you have a countersuit. SON OF A!

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While it's proabbly foreseeable that some new father at some point
will faint, the severity of the injury sounds rather like a freak
acident. He hit his head on something aluminim???? What's his head
made of? But ya, seems to me that if the hospital was negligent at all
it would be in his subsequent treatment, not in asking him to help.

Anyway, what's she doing getting an epidural? Wimp.

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>
> Anyway, what's she doing getting an epidural? Wimp.
>

*laugh* My thoughts exactly. ;)

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On 7/8/05, Deanna Schneider <deanna.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Anyway, what's she doing getting an epidural? Wimp.
> >
> *laugh* My thoughts exactly. ;)
>
>

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> It would make for a very weird fight that's for sure.
> Instead of wrestling how about making it sword and shield.
> If you're going to have a blood sport lets go all the way.

It might end too quickly that way... You saw Troy right? And you know,
only the Gods and Achilles can be _that_ angry... or Mike. :)

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> .....and this is why our health care system is so god-damned expensive in
> this country:

My brother-in-law, at the birth of his second child, watched the
epidural procedure, against the advice of the doctor and my sister.

He fainted and hit his head on a stool (that he'd been sitting on earlier).

Cut his forehead pretty badly...

so, it does happen.
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If the law suit is entirely around the fainting, I agree the hospital have little liability in my eyes. But I wonder if any of it relates to the treatment of him after the fall. Did they not take the head injury serious enough soon enough to increase his chance of survival. Or did they just say, "It is a bump on his head, like here in this gurney for awhile." And then not pay any attention until it was too late.


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....From: Ray Champagne [mailto:r...@cvwp.com]
....Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 6:11 AM
....To: CF-Community
....Subject: Re: everyone's looking for a quick buck....
....
....How is the hospital responsible? In what way?
....
....I agree with you that it sucks for the family - that was never in doubt.
.... The child doesn't have a dad, the mom doesn't have a husband, etc. I
....just don't see where the hospital is responsible. The guy passed out at
....the sight of a needle. How is that the hospital's fault? I could see
....if they knew what his reaction was going to be, and didn't plan for it,
....but there was no mention of that in there at all.
....
....Paul Ihrig wrote:
....> ok if my husband dies at the birth of our child i would be just a
....> little bit upset.
....> who is going to help raise the child?
....> i do think the hospital is a little responsible.
....>
....> got to suck to go home to an empty house with a new baby after that...
....>
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yes, which I could see happening if there was a screaming womain in the room....

Dana

Or did they just say, "It is a bump on his head, like here in this
gurney for awhile." And then not pay any attention until it was too
late.

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Really? That's so odd - I watched both my wife's epidurals, and not
only was there not any blood or anything that could imagine would induce
fainting (well, ok, there was the huge needle), but it was really
interesting to see the procedure. Of course, once the nurses figured
out I wasn't the fainting type, they asked me to put on a gown and
gloves and wash up and they let me fetch things and help out a little.
It was quite the experience.

They also said you'd be surprised how many husbands faint or feel faint
at some point in the process - at least half.

- Jim

William Bowen wrote:

>>.....and this is why our health care system is so god-damned expensive in
>>this country:
>>
>>
>
>My brother-in-law, at the birth of his second child, watched the
>epidural procedure, against the advice of the doctor and my sister.
>
>He fainted and hit his head on a stool (that he'd been sitting on earlier).
>
>Cut his forehead pretty badly...
>
>so, it does happen.
>
>

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Watching an epidural didn't get to me. Watching an episiotomy did
though. It's funny. I've dealt okay with body gore from injury, but
when it's medical/cosmetic it just gets to me.

-Kevin

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> Really? That's so odd - I watched both my wife's epidurals, and not
> only was there not any blood or anything that could imagine would induce
> fainting (well, ok, there was the huge needle), but it was really
> interesting to see the procedure. Of course, once the nurses figured
> out I wasn't the fainting type, they asked me to put on a gown and
> gloves and wash up and they let me fetch things and help out a little.
> It was quite the experience.
>
> They also said you'd be surprised how many husbands faint or feel faint
> at some point in the process - at least half.
>
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episotomy, yuck, another procedure I managed to avoid...

Dana

On 7/8/05, Kevin Graeme <kgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Watching an epidural didn't get to me. Watching an episiotomy did
> though. It's funny. I've dealt okay with body gore from injury, but
> when it's medical/cosmetic it just gets to me.
>
> -Kevin
>
> On 7/8/05, Jim Campbell <j...@inomi.com> wrote:
> > Really? That's so odd - I watched both my wife's epidurals, and not
> > only was there not any blood or anything that could imagine would induce
> > fainting (well, ok, there was the huge needle), but it was really
> > interesting to see the procedure. Of course, once the nurses figured
> > out I wasn't the fainting type, they asked me to put on a gown and
> > gloves and wash up and they let me fetch things and help out a little.
> > It was quite the experience.
> >
> > They also said you'd be surprised how many husbands faint or feel faint
> > at some point in the process - at least half.
> >
> > - Jim
>
>

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> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: everyone's looking for a quick buck....
>

> Watching an epidural didn't get to me. Watching an episiotomy did
> though. It's funny. I've dealt okay with body gore from injury, but
> when it's medical/cosmetic it just gets to me.

At least at Mass General (we had both kids there) the husbands are not
allowed to watch the epidural - it's considered a sterile procedure. I had
to leave the room.

Now the episiotomy they let me watch. Apparently that's can get as filthy
as you like.

Weird, huh?

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makes sense actually. Spinal fluid is not normally exposed to room
bacteria whereas the mucous membranes not only are, they are adapted
to cope this them.

Dana

On 7/8/05, Jim Davis <HOFL...@depressedpress.com> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:kgr...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:22 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: everyone's looking for a quick buck....
> >
> > Watching an epidural didn't get to me. Watching an episiotomy did
> > though. It's funny. I've dealt okay with body gore from injury, but
> > when it's medical/cosmetic it just gets to me.
>
> At least at Mass General (we had both kids there) the husbands are not
> allowed to watch the epidural - it's considered a sterile procedure. I had
> to leave the room.
>
> Now the episiotomy they let me watch. Apparently that's can get as filthy
> as you like.
>
> Weird, huh?
>
> Jim Davis
>
>
>
>
>
>

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And the torrents of blood that came gushing out probably kept any
nasties from getting inside too.

On 7/8/05, Dana <dana.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
> makes sense actually. Spinal fluid is not normally exposed to room
> bacteria whereas the mucous membranes not only are, they are adapted
> to cope this them.
>
> Dana

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probably true, though I don't know how much blood there is,

Dana

On 7/8/05, Kevin Graeme <kgr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> And the torrents of blood that came gushing out probably kept any
> nasties from getting inside too.
>
> On 7/8/05, Dana <dana.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > makes sense actually. Spinal fluid is not normally exposed to room
> > bacteria whereas the mucous membranes not only are, they are adapted
> > to cope this them.
> >
> > Dana
>
>

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man i am so not going to be in the room when i knock up my wife.
will be in the hallway with a stiff one.

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> man i am so not going to be in the room when i knock up my
> wife. will be in the hallway with a stiff one.

I dunno... that just sounds creepy... you're in the hospital waiting
for a friend to get out of the delivery room and some guy with a
boner's pacing back and forth in the hall, wringing his hands. :)

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You won't be in the room when you knock up your wife?
I'm available if you need any help (although thinking of you in the
hallway with a "stiff one" is a little creepy)

On 7/8/05, Paul Ihrig <pih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> man i am so not going to be in the room when i knock up my wife.
> will be in the hallway with a stiff one.

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Um, when the hell did you watch one of those?

On 7/8/05, Kevin Graeme <kgr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Watching an epidural didn't get to me. Watching an episiotomy did
> though. It's funny. I've dealt okay with body gore from injury, but
> when it's medical/cosmetic it just gets to me.
>
> -Kevin

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Uhm... If you're in the hallway with a stiff one.... who's knockin' up your wife AND wouldn't knockin' up your wife yourself be a means to relieve yourself of said stiff one?

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man i am so not going to be in the room when i knock up my wife.
will be in the hallway with a stiff one.

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Probably he wouldn't be wringing his hands - so to speak.

larry

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ok, so i am not going to be in the delivery room at the time of birth.
real blood makes me very nauscius for some reason.

i can watch the most messed up horror movie or video game, but show me
a sceane from one of those tv show hospital rooms, even baby stuff, i
turn yellow.

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Unless your wife ends up having a c-section - there's a whole lot of
time in the labor/delivery room that doesn't involve massive blood
loss. (There's no difference between labor and delivery rooms around
here, so YMMV.) And, it's not like you have to look at it, you know.
You could be at the head of the bed holding her hand while she
delivers and I'd imagine the view would be relatively sanitary.

But, of course, I should just say, buck the fuck up, little man. Cause
whatever you're feeling - it ain't nothing compared to what wifey is
going through.

On 7/8/05, Paul Ihrig <pih...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ok, so i am not going to be in the delivery room at the time of birth.
> real blood makes me very nauscius for some reason.
>
> i can watch the most messed up horror movie or video game, but show me
> a sceane from one of those tv show hospital rooms, even baby stuff, i
> turn yellow.
>
>

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hey i didnt pick the fruit - ... joke.
i know i will be in there.

just am not looking forward to it.

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Then again, of course, he did say "when I knock up my wife", so
technically, I'm thinking the logistics of that sound puzzling... I
mean... I've heard of some big guys, but to be big enough to be in the
hallway at the time, I'd think you'd have trouble in your day-to-day
life, you know, getting through doorways would be a challenge.

> Probably he wouldn't be wringing his hands - so to speak.

> larry

> On 7/8/05, S. Isaac Dealey <in...@turnkey.to> wrote:
>> > man i am so not going to be in the room when i knock up
>> > my
>> > wife. will be in the hallway with a stiff one.
>>
>> I dunno... that just sounds creepy... you're in the
>> hospital waiting
>> for a friend to get out of the delivery room and some guy
>> with a
>> boner's pacing back and forth in the hall, wringing his
>> hands. :)


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He'd never need a crutch... and we'd have to call him "tripod"

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> ok, so i am not going to be in the delivery room at the
> time of birth. real blood makes me very nauscius for
> some reason.

> i can watch the most messed up horror movie or video
> game, but show me a sceane from one of those tv show
> hospital rooms, even baby stuff, i turn yellow.

You might consider trying to find a good hypnotherapist to help with
that... Or just read more about the implications of "string theory".

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> He'd never need a crutch... and we'd have to call him
> "tripod"

I dunno... if he's in the hall we might just call him top-heavy.

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Or passed out from the blood redirection from the brain.

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> He'd never need a crutch... and we'd have to call him
> "tripod"

I dunno... if he's in the hall we might just call him top-heavy.


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My guess would be some time between 5 and 10pm on the Discovery
Channel.

> Um, when the hell did you watch one of those?

> On 7/8/05, Kevin Graeme <kgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Watching an epidural didn't get to me. Watching an
>> episiotomy did
>> though. It's funny. I've dealt okay with body gore from
>> injury, but
>> when it's medical/cosmetic it just gets to me.

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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:kgr...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:22 PM
>> To: CF-Community

>> Subject: Re: everyone's looking for a quick buck....
>>
>> Watching an epidural didn't get to me. Watching an
>> episiotomy did
>> though. It's funny. I've dealt okay with body gore from
>> injury, but
>> when it's medical/cosmetic it just gets to me.

> At least at Mass General (we had both kids there) the
> husbands are not
> allowed to watch the epidural - it's considered a sterile
> procedure. I had
> to leave the room.

> Now the episiotomy they let me watch. Apparently that's
> can get as filthy
> as you like.

> Weird, huh?

Oh that's the one where the Dr. cuts her and sews her back up because
the Dr's. either an idiot, in too much of a hurry or a mysogynistic
prick who thinks he's doing you both a favor by "making her
tighter"... fuckwads...

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> They also said you'd be surprised how many husbands
> faint or feel faint at some point in the process
> - at least half.

In other news, CNN reports that half of all husbands are pussies.


This explains a lot...