eduroam for teachers - expressions of interest

[Donal Cunningham]

Dear CESI members,

 

John Hegarty and I have been talking recently about eduroam. He hinted

that while he might be happy to set up RADIUS servers (and the other voodoo

necessary to become an eduroam service provider) others might not be.

 

In particular, he suggested that more than a few teachers might be interested in

becoming eduroam users as opposed to eduroam service providers. I have been

consulting some colleagues in HEAnet to see if this would be feasible through

organisations such as Scoilnet or CESI so that we could enable this for more

than just one or two pilot schools.

 

If this is something that would interest more than a handful of teachers,

please let me know – offlist if you’d rather not say in public – that this is

in fact, the case.

 

Many thanks,

 

   Dónal.

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[Richard Millwood]

It all sounds a bit theoretical until you have an experience. 

Over the last almost 20 years as an Eduroam HE user, I have had many life-saving, time-saving, and just 'belonging' experiences because of Eduroam. 

It meant connecting at the last minute in a strange institution abroad, to check where I should be for a meeting (before mobile telephony!), it has meant turning up for conferences and just logging like I'm at home (while teachers at the same conference struggled with some temporary ID) and it has meant a general sense of doing the right thing for the education community.

It might not notice much yet, since we aren't travelling, but to access internet resources from your home school when you are at a CPD session or a conference at another venue, is a game changer.

Highly recommended.

Richard

[CESI Chair]

I know I have found myself jealous of third level associates when we've found ourselves together in third level institutions as they join the network seamlessly - even though belonging to a different institution - because they have Eduroam accounts.  I'm second level.  Hope this one gets legs.

Adrienne

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[G P Ashe]

+1 for "get legs" and "not lag"

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[Tom Kendall]

This is something I would definitely be interested in as well.

Regards,

Tom (Post Primary / Second Level teacher here in Ireland)

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[John Hegarty]

Most folk here may not have come across eduroam so it would be good to hear from those who already have it at 3rd level. Where have you used it, is it useful, do you think it would be a handy tool for all teachers to have in their pocket?

Like Adrienne - I've been in this position too at a conference in France and one in the US where eduroam was available. Peers were up and running straight away while I ended up using the data on my phone as the temporary visitors access didn't work all that well.

Places offering access to eduroam in Ireland - https://www.eduroam.ie/

and the rest of the world - https://eduroam.org/where/

It would be a good thing I reckon for every 1st and 2nd level teacher to have an eduroam account. That would be the first step. Having it linked to some existing central, well managed and credentialed database of teachers would get it rolled out quickly and be sustainable into the future. Perhaps linking it to Teaching Council registration might be a way to scale it quickly as most teachers are already signed up there.

It would be pretty cool too if we could take it to the next level, level 2 if you like, where schools could choose to provide eduroam services in their school. So any visiting teachers from any level, Primary to 3rd level could get access in the school with their eduroam account. CESI might have a role here in helping to put together instructions/steps on how schools can achieve this level using their infrastructure. Anyone here interested in being involved in this should it prove to be a runner?

Level 3 would be where a school might choose to create/manage accounts for themselves should they want to. Perhaps not too many would want to do that, especially if most teachers could get it through their Teaching Council registration. A school doing this could then create eduroam accounts themselves that would work in any other school/institution round the world offering access to eduroam. Perhaps there might be a role for CESI there for providing accounts for edge cases - folk who might not qualify for say Teaching Council recognition but are teaching in schools in Ireland every day. Plenty of those on this list I reckon. It might be a service we offer to members of CESI. The concern on that one would be sustainability given we are a volunteer army.

jh

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[Hassan Dabbagh]

This sound great 

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[Denis Dennehy]

Richard you'd sell ouil to arabs  count me in on you sales man ship

Denis

On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 at 14:59, Richard Millwood <richard....@gmail.com> wrote:

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[John Heffernan]

Hi all,

I think I shared my Wifi experience when I was working in Albemarle County in Virginia before which pretty surpassed anything I have seen in Ireland.

All schools were on the same wifi whose details were built into the image so it meant that moving devices from one school to another was seamless. Different levels of filtering for each level ( Elementary, Middle and High School)  although for High School we were a bit more liberal than most school districts. High school students also had admin privileges on their school-issued devices.

We also had access points in two of the three public libraries in Charlottesville so if students were using the library they could easily access school restricted digital content.  When I was leaving they were talking about putting wifi on some of the school buses used for traveling teams so they would have a chance of doing homework traveling to a game.  

But the real pièce de résistance was the LTE broadband network they started to build within the country

https://www.wired.com/story/schools-secret-spectrum-free-internet-digital-divide/ 

https://get.kajeet.net/news/albemarle-county-trying-to-improve-internet-access-students

More details here https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/7521096572.pdf 

They did deals with the other internet providers to rent out space on the school-mounted masts which really reduced costs as well as police and emergency services 

They were also quick off the mark with sourcing additional hot spots for students https://twitter.com/BertJacoby/status/1243273766995714048?s=20 within a fortnight of school lockdown last year.

The benefits of joined up thinking folks. !!!

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[Denis Dennehy]

Hassan I feel a staffroom session coming on and your panel john, Adrienne Richard is there a vacancy for a producer with CESI staffroom ?? 

Regards

Denis 

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