Chromebooks or Tablets

[Stephen Devlin]

Hi,

I am looking for advice on purchasing either chromebooks or tablets?

Has anyone any experience of doing so - what pitfalls do I need to be aware of?

Has anyone experience using an application to manage tablets (android or apple)?

I am trying do as much research as I can before I commit to buying anything. 

I am looking for a set of roughly 25. 

Any vendors please feel free to contact me off list.

Thanks in advance

Stephen

[Brendan O' Regan]

Chromebooks have the advantage of having a normal keyboard, start and close down very quickly, update in the background no hassle (unlike Windows!) and if you go for something like the Acer R11 touchscreen you can flip it over 360 degrees to become a tablet (albeit heavier than iPad or surface in tablet mode). The latter machine can also install Android Apps. But of course you need to be online to get the best out of them, and while great if your school uses Google Classroom etc if you're committed to full Office you've a problem, but then you can use the online Office apps.
Try to get max ram available - 4 GB should be fine. 

Best wishes

Brendan

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[Eoin McDonnell]

Hi Stephen, 

I would agree with Brendan - that having a keyboard would be beneficial.

The newer model Chromebooks have apps that can be used offline as well as online.

Best of luck! 

Eoin 

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[J Muller]

iPads have an excellent build quality.  They were the standard before chromebooks took over, so there is a lot of software available. The touchscreen is good for young children. iPads became popular when connectivity was an issue, but multi-user is a problem on them. Peripherals are expensive. For lower years I think iPads can still be a good choice. Many schools nowadays use Gdrive for the data on iPads.

 

 Chromebooks are cheap, but the gap is narrowing with the new touchscreen and Android Play store ones. Chroembooks have keyboards so they are more suitable for typing. Chrembooks are truly device independent, so if one breaks down or runs out of charge you can continue on another with the same uid and it will be truly the same (except for obvious differences in hardware like screensize, touchscreen or not etc.) the data and config will be the same. Many ruggedized ones have been made for education specifically. Since they store all data in the cloud they do not lose data when a chromebook gets damaged etc. 

Generally speaking iPads are more used for creating rich content like video on the device but require more management. Chromebooks can be used for rich content on the device, but shine with collaboration and ease of management. 

There are also competitiors for iPads based on Win or Android, but they lack the ease of management of the chroembooks. Competitors for the chromebooks would be more laptops and mac-books which can do more but require a lot more management and cost a lot more. MS is starting to fight back with cheap laptops, but I am not convinced that 2Gb Win10s latops will be as nippy as chromebooks until I see it. Chromebooks are proven in large scale use to support asking the kids to close the lid, show something, let the kids open them and continue note-taking in seconds. With Win 10 you may risk having to wait minutes until they are all started. 

 

Chroembooks support modern concepts like paperless classroom and serverless school.. Modern iPads have Apple Classroom which is a server and MS will assume AD is used for all devices. 

Since I teach in distance-learning I am more interested in serverless, paperless and less interested in installing apps on devices. 

If you want to read up on devices be careful about the provenance of what you read. The interests at stake for MS, Apple and Google are high and much research is co-funded by interested parties. Since Chromebooks have really clobbered the market in the USA in 2016/2017 it is easy to find recent experiences and enthusiastic descriptions of those projects, but competing products by Apple and MS have been released so recently that it is hard to find info about actual uptake. 

For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_to_one_computing_(education)   lists the example of enthusiastic iPad uptake http://www.ranchosantafereview.com/news/local-news/sd-cm-rsf-rsfetechnology-20170627-story.html  from june 2017 but if you go to the actual schools website and follow it to its districts website http://rsfschool.net/#  and click on District / District information / iPad auction you see that the june story is outdated and that the district is auctioning off 570 iPads. (closing date for bids 18/01/2018 i.e. tomorrow).   So, be careful about what you read in this hot market. 

[Simon Lewis]

For me, it's like choosing a religion :-)

Fans of Apple will tell you iPads are the way to go. Fans of Chromebooks will tell your Chromebooks are the way to go.

Much like the excellent advice already given above, it's best to take an agnostic view.

Find out what you want to kids to be doing and see which fits the model best. We have gone for a mix of both but with a much heavier load on Chromebooks (90:10) as we rely a lot of G Suite and we also use a lot of Flash content (not dead yet).

Hope this helps

Simon

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Chromebooks all the way for many reasons.

 

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[Paul Carolan]

Stephen,

Whichever one you choose be sure and factor in safe storage, charging and covers for the devices. We have both in our school and covers for the chromebooks are highly recommended as are the survivor-type cases for the ipads. Also, there's a limit to the number of Ipads you can replicate/manage via an itunes account as far as I know (10 I think) and there is a licence fee per device to opt into the highly recommended google apps for education (GAFE) device management facility. Suppliers should all be able to quote you and advise you on that.

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[Claire Mc Hugh]

Surface Pro is excellent,

  You have so much functionality and excellent School APPS,

  Really good decision here for staff-

  C

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[J Muller]

Is that for staff & pupils or for staff only?

Thanks,

J.

On Thursday, 18 January 2018 10:51:50 UTC, CMCHUGH wrote:

Surface Pro is excellent,

  You have so much functionality and excellent School APPS,

  Really good decision here for staff-

  C

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Stephen Devlin <stephen...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I am looking for advice on purchasing either chromebooks or tablets?

Has anyone any experience of doing so - what pitfalls do I need to be aware of?

Has anyone experience using an application to manage tablets (android or apple)?

I am trying do as much research as I can before I commit to buying anything. 

I am looking for a set of roughly 25. 

Any vendors please feel free to contact me off list.

Thanks in advance

Stephen

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[Paul de Lacy]

Hi,  

As a medium primary school we have 22 iPads.

16 are almost 5 years old and are stuck on ios9 as a result. They work perfectly. Batteries are still fine too.

6 are only a year old and work great.

We use them in station teaching mostly where there may be 6 in one room and 12 in another at the same time.  They are used from Junior Infants (Jolly Phonics, matrix puzzles etc) to 6th class (Spelling City, Thesaurus, Literacy Planet, Safari etc).

They are also used in SET rooms (Webber Hearbuilder tour, Social Stories, various maths apps, Scratch Jr and just this week Swift (only on our new iPads)

I'm going to MiTE in Galway tomorrow to look for ideas on how best to extend their use in the school.

Occasionally they are used for project research as an entire set in 3rd to 6th. 

I have no experience of a Chromebook so can't advise on a preference.

Regards

Paul

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