Web-design packages with easy to edit tables

[Noel Cunningham]

Using the Dreamweaver program for web-design, I can create a table and then edit it (add rows etc) pretty much like I would in Microsoft Word.

However Dreamweaver is now ridiculously expensive (and there seems to be a steep learning curve with the new edition) but most other web-design programs don't seem to have the same functionality when it comes to adding tables. With Weebly you can insert a table but not edit it easily.

Anybody know any programs that do allow tables to be created and edited easily?

I haven't used Wordpress for web-design, just for blog posts, but I see plug-ins are available if I choose to go down this option.

Just thought I would throw it out here first before committing either way.

Thanks,

Noel

[Damien Quinn]

Hi Noel, you can just design your table the way you want it to look in Dreamweaver, and then copy the code for the completed table and paste it into Wordpress, Weebly or whatever other web design programme you want to use. It’s a workaround that may work for you.

 

Regards, Damien

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[Hassan Dabbagh]

+1 Damien 

Hassan Dabbagh

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[Noel Cunningham]

The problem is that the version of dreamweaver that I'm used to using is on an old laptop and is not compatible with windows 10.

If I do copy the code from there and paste into weebly or an equivalent I'm guessing I still won't be able to easily add a new row (I'd like to have an option for 'insert new row' rather than have to do it code).

[John Hegarty]

How about doing the table in a google document and then embedding the document in the wordpress blog. Any editing/adjustments you make to the Google document automatically appear on the web page. Might not be the prettiest solution but pretty functional.

jh

[Willie McTiernan]

Kompozer is free, good for tables

http://www.kompozer.net/ 

[Seaghan Moriarty (Digilogue)]

Hi Noel,

 

The problem with tables is that they are not supposed to be used – apart from displaying tabulated data. Many of us, myself included, used them for layout in Dreamweaver – so I know where you’re coming from. When your page with table is viewed on an ipad or smartphone or re-sized window, tables can ruin otherwise well organised / laid-out pages.

 

So, the current advice is to use CSS to create grids/tables – so that there is some degree of ‘responsiveness’. The layout will then re-flow depending on the device and size of the user.  It’s not a solution per-se, but it might help in part. Practically, take a look at this facility: http://www.csstablegenerator.com/ which should help you create tables of many optional styles and sizes which you can then paste into any editor and away you go J

 

HTH J

 

Kindest Regards,

Seaghan Moriarty.

[Keith Michael Gregg]

+1 to what Seaghan said

Never ever ever ever EVER use tables for layout. It is really bold HTML3 Practice, which was supposed to stop with the advent of CSS. Tables are very code heavy and complex. It's much easier to layout data with CSS using floats or positioning. 

There are great tools such as HTML5 Boilerplate, Twitter Bootstrap, and Zurb foundation, which give you a code based scaffold if you don't want to build something from scratch, unless you are actually building a table for tabular data (you are physics seemingly, so this may be the case)

• https://html5boilerplate.com
• http://getbootstrap.com
• http://foundation.zurb.com
  

You may also like to look up http://html5please.com/ to see what awesome HTML5 features can be used. If your HTML/CSS is rusty, you can check out codecademy's short HTML/CSS track which teaches you the more contemporary approaches to web. 

https://www.codecademy.com/learn/web

For mac there is an app called WebCode which spits out good HTML/CSS, unlike DreamWeaver - which is a kitchen sink WYSIWYG. Using a text editor, Sublime 2 or ATOM are great. This is a list of the best ones for windows. I've seen Kompozer in action but to be honest is it much faster coding by hand.

http://listoffreeware.com/list-of-best-free-wysiwyg-html-editing-software-for-windows/

alternatively I am attaching a rough Table layout which should be easy for you to edit. Open it in a text editor like wordpad or sublime. Open it in a browser to view changes. 

Regards,

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[CJ fanning]

Hi

Very useful thread!

I was going to say check out what's out there in Opensource. It can be surprising. 

I used Sublime in a workshop recently and there seemed to be lots of add on features and plug ins. It was fairly straightforward to use too 

Camilla

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<table.html>

[Keith Michael Gregg]

Yes camilla,  sublime is great. Aptana studio is more robust for a full stack app,  and github recently released atom, which is like sublime minus the subscribe pop up. Notepad ++ is OK but clunky as is textwrangler or bbedit on Mac. Sublime Aptana and atom all have the benefit of autocomplete for your tags. Making markup easier

[Noel Cunningham]

Thank you to all everyone for taking the time to reply.

Think I will forward most of it on to my go-to techie student who has more time than I have to check out the various options. He can then guide me through the best option(s).

N