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Eoin McDonnell

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Sep 22, 2017, 5:50:04 AM9/22/17
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Hi Everyone,
Thanks for all the great advice to date. 

If you use a surface pro on a day to day basis, would you mind sending me an email of pros and cons?
 
I have a principal who is looking at either:

buying a laptop and tablet, 
or 
buying a surface pro with keyboard cover and docking station.

The device(s) will be used on a day to day basis for timetabling in VSware, meetings etc and will be brought between work and home.

The school uses Microsoft office 365 cloud for storage and communication.

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have a great Friday!
Eoin
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Hassan Dabbagh

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Sep 22, 2017, 1:06:24 PM9/22/17
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I use a Surface Pro 4 as my daily driver and love everything about it. 
Feel free to contact me off line . 

Hassan Dabbagh
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Eoin McDonnell

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Hassan thats great thank you!

best wishes,
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Claire Mc Hugh

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Surface pro is excellent!! We just started using them and staff live the ease of use... we too have 365 , the apps are great, the service from Wriggle is great, we're big fans after 4 weeks! 
 Claire 

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Looking to buy one shortly so delighted to hear this 

On 22 Sep 2017 20:57, "Claire Mc Hugh" <clmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
Surface pro is excellent!! We just started using them and staff live the ease of use... we too have 365 , the apps are great, the service from Wriggle is great, we're big fans after 4 weeks! 
 Claire 

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Hi Everyone,
Thanks for all the great advice to date. 

If you use a surface pro on a day to day basis, would you mind sending me an email of pros and cons?
 
I have a principal who is looking at either:

buying a laptop and tablet, 
or 
buying a surface pro with keyboard cover and docking station.

The device(s) will be used on a day to day basis for timetabling in VSware, meetings etc and will be brought between work and home.

The school uses Microsoft office 365 cloud for storage and communication.

You are welcome to email directly on eoin.mc...@gmail.com or the list on cesi...@googlegroups.com.

have a great Friday!
Eoin
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Eoin McDonnell

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Sep 23, 2017, 4:17:26 AM9/23/17
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Hi Claire
Thats great to hear! 

Best wishes 
Eoin 
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On 22 Sep 2017 8:57 p.m., "Claire Mc Hugh" <clmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
Surface pro is excellent!! We just started using them and staff live the ease of use... we too have 365 , the apps are great, the service from Wriggle is great, we're big fans after 4 weeks! 
 Claire 

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On 22 Sep 2017, at 10:49, Eoin McDonnell <eoin.mc...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Everyone,
Thanks for all the great advice to date. 

If you use a surface pro on a day to day basis, would you mind sending me an email of pros and cons?
 
I have a principal who is looking at either:

buying a laptop and tablet, 
or 
buying a surface pro with keyboard cover and docking station.

The device(s) will be used on a day to day basis for timetabling in VSware, meetings etc and will be brought between work and home.

The school uses Microsoft office 365 cloud for storage and communication.

You are welcome to email directly on eoin.mc...@gmail.com or the list on cesi...@googlegroups.com.

have a great Friday!
Eoin
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Laurence Cuffe

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I’ve always found the following google search useful, before buying an item:
"item name problems”
where item name is, oddly enough, the name of the item. What I look for are current web pages describing issues with the device.
This search tends to tell me more than the more conventional
“item name review”  Which may just reflect eh level of paid advertising bought on the site by the manufacturer 
or 
“item name specs”
Which may refer to a previous model, as if a model takes off often the manufacturer will keep the name, and just change the model number,
or “item name manual filetype:pdf”
which will often just lead you to a generic site selling unrelated manuals, or manuals available from the manufacturer under some obscure product support tab.
Best
regards
Laurence Cuffe

I know there was a sound problem with some of the early surface Pro’s, where some internal fan would turn on and drown out the mic while you were recording video. I know this because I spent an afternoon trying to recover the sound track from some student assessment videos where this problem occurred.

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Eoin McDonnell

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Sep 25, 2017, 7:33:19 AM9/25/17
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Laurence thank you great tip! 

Claire Mc Hugh

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be careful with review sites though!!
Surface Pro 4 is excellent,
 use One drive for storage as RAM not built to take a lot of video regardless of device,
   Just saying.. 
    CLaire

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Can I ask what people think of a class set of Surface Pros as replacement devices for pupil laptops? 

Thanks,

Fiona

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Laurence Cuffe

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It depends on the purpose of the devices, and how cost sensitive you are. However I feel it might be an expensive solution. 
As a second point, I think that in deploying technology with our students, we may be hoping to give them general it skills and a familiarity with technology which they are likely to encounter outside the school context. A surface pro is still quite a specialised device, in comparison with a generic laptop, and may not be as appropriate in fulfilling this role.
best
Laurence Cuffe

Claire Mc Hugh

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A class set is a great idea,
  Laptops are gone.. once you start using the Surface Pro you see all the advantages,
  Its still Windows,
       Still Office
       the most likely OS they will meet in college and work. 
           So many school apps 
C

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How robust are they? Will have 100 pupils a day/ 300 a week using a class set. In more than 5 years of using iPads in the school, we have had to replace 1 device and maybe 2 cracked screens. I know there is the option of Bluetooth keyboards with the iPads but we would definitely like to have the option of a Windows keyboard device as well as the iPads. 

Thanks,

Fiona


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Talk to wriggle , 
  we got lovely protective covers in Leather - Maroo cases.. 
   No issues,
   Charging about the same as iPads 8 hours +
we just got ours in Sept,
    Ill update here if there are issues, 

Val Gavin

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Hi Fiona

I would not advise on using surface pro in a classroom, they are not robust enough for that type of wear and tear.
There are Chromebooks that are toughened enough that they cab be dropped form 1.5 metres without damage and are  much cheaper
But if you really want a Windows device then there are also Notebooks that are designed for schools and should be capable of everyday classroom use



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Can I ask what people think of a class set of Surface Pros as replacement devices for pupil laptops? 

Thanks,

Fiona

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