RE: {Center Stage Chorus} CORRECTION: re Obamacare and senior citizens...

[Lynda McNamee]

You know what aggregates me most about these erroneous & misleading stories?  Its that, over time, they will numb us to the point that we overlook or ignore the atrocities that DO exist in Obamacare or because of Obamacare.  It is absolutely crammed to the hilt with NEW taxes...an estimated $500 billion dollars worth of them.  Some of those taxes WILL result in fewer innovations in medical devices and/or the less availability of them (because of the “special” taxes imposed on the manufacturers and distributors).  It WILL result in most people being forced into government run health exchanges, NOT because the law forces employers to enroll them there but because (a) employers will now be REQUIRED to include part time employees if they provide health care as a benefit for their full time employees (b) the requirement that all private health insurance plans provide coverage for things they may not have covered before (birth control pills, for example) and that they continue to insure adult children until they are middle-aged WILL increase the cost of those private plans. (there are numerous other things like this that will increase the cost of an employer’s Plan.)   The result of this increased cost is that employers will pay a reduced share of the premium, making it even less affordable for the employee.  Only those in high income brackets will be able to afford the employers private plan so they will be forced to chose the government’s “exchange”.  Some choice, huh?  And who will benefit?  The “very poor”?  Best case scenario is that they’ll have the same basic care they had as Medicaid recipients.  The middle class?  Yeah, they ARE the one's most impacted by the high cost of health insurance.   But their cost can NOT go down if they chose to stay on their employers private plan (for the reasons mentioned above) so they will go to the Exchange where they will get only bare minimum coverage... and there is no reason to think they will pay less for that reduced coverage than they were paying for their employer sponsored plan that had better benefits.  But, don't take the word of any body who actually has to negotiate the terms, conditions and price of a large employer’s health insurance benefits package.  Just wait and see for yourself.

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Sent: ‎January‎ ‎22‎, ‎2013 ‎1‎:‎56‎ ‎PM
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Subject: {Center Stage Chorus} CORRECTION: re Obamacare and senior citizens...

 

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/kithil.asp

As usual, Dot has sent us out info that is inaccurate and misleading.  Statements that seem especially outrageous can often be checked at www.snopes.com.  The point by point response to the statements supposedly attributed to Judge can be found at the link above -- includes for example that references are made to a bill that did not pass.

Marianne

-----Original Message-----
From: Dot McElroy <dpmcel...@comcast.net>
To: centerstagechorus <centerst...@googlegroups.com>; patsygilmore <patsyg...@windstream.net>; 'Rachel Rhodes' <rachelrh...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 11:34 pm
Subject: {Center Stage Chorus} FW: Obamacare and senior citizens...

Thought you should see this one.

Dot

 

 

From: Robert

PLEASE PASS THIS OUTRAGE TO EVERY ONE ON YOUR LIST! THIS should be read by everyone, especially important to those over 75.......If you are younger, then it applies to your parents......

 

Your hospital Medicare admittance has just changed under Obama Care. You must be admitted by your primary Physician in order for Medicare to pay for it! If you are admitted by an emergency room doctor it is treated as outpatient care where hospital costs are not covered. This is only the tip of the iceberg for Obama Care. Just wait to see what happen in 2013 & 2014! Age 76 Today, I went to the Dr. for my monthly B12 shot that I have been getting for a number of years. The nurse came and got me, got out the needle filled and ready to go then looked at the computer and got very quiet and asked if I was prepared to pay for it. I said no that my insurance takes care of it. She said, that Medicare had turned it down and went to talk to my Dr. about it. 15 minutes later she came back and said, she was sorry but they had tried every-thing they could but Medicare is beginning to turn many things away for seniors because of the projected Obama Care coming in. She was brushing at tears and said, "Some day they too will get old", I am so very sorry!! YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS... At age 76 when you most need it, you are not eligible for cancer treatment * see page 272

 

What Nancy Pelosi didn't want us to know until after the healthcare bill was passed. Remember she said, "We have to pass the Bill so that we can see what's in it." Well, here it is.

 

Obama Care Highlighted by Page Number THE CARE BILL HB 3200 JUDGE KITHIL IS THE 2ND OFFICIAL WHO HAS OUTLINED THESE PARTS OF THE CARE BILL. Judge Kithil of Marble Falls, TX - highlighted the most egregious pages of HB3200 Please read this....... especially the reference to pages 58 & 59

 

JUDGE KITHIL wrote:
** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.

 

** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

 

** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).

 

** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)

 

** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.

 

** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.

 

** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.
**

 

Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..)

 

** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.

 

HAD ENOUGH? Judge Kithil then goes on to identify:

 

"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Honorable David Kithil of Marble Falls, Texas

 

All of the above should give you the ammo you need to oppose Obamacare. Please send this information on to all of your email contacts.