Re: Iron Impact Download Setup
Jennifer Vidmar
[quote name='schneck1977' timestamp='1286838483' post='2738582']...One thing you might want to look at are [b]ProSoft inserts[/b][/quote]
Most often shafts, sometimes lie. ^Try those if lie is okay.
i also tried to like the px. played the px 5.0 with prosoft inserts for a year in tour preferred, then went to 5.5 flighted in 09 burners. hit them well but never liked the feel, always harsh no matter where on the clubface. final straw was when i put the pxs in my wedges, lost all feel around the greens. sold the burners and picked up a set of r7tps with dgr300's. i will never go back to px. got all my feel back overnight!
Ok, well that's a pretty good consensus on the PX Rifle Flighted. So before I decide to shell out the $$ on some new irons, I should figure out which shaft would work best.
Does anyone have any suggestions on a shaft replacement for the PX? Would Dynamic Gold HL be a good swap for 'swingability' while providing better feel? I see that scratch is using KBS Tour. Or maybe the NS Pro 105T on the Titleist side of things?
Any X-22 Tour users out there have any suggestions?
Thanks!!
Only time I have found Project X's to be harsh was on mis-hits. Hit them flush and they feel like butter. Miss the sweet spot just a little and they feel like hitting a brick with a piece of rebar. For me the over-all performance of the PX's make the occasional harsh impact worth it.
If you don't like DG's try KBS Tours or Nippons. From what I have heard they feel great for smoothe swingers. My transition is on the quick side so "smoother" shafts feel very vague to me and the "boardy-ness" of the PX's doesn't bother me.
I tested out the PX shafts when being fit for some new irons as well. Hated the feeling of them, but that's just personal preference. If you like the flight of the PX, but not the feel, KBS is your wheelhouse son.
I wish they didn't launch quite as high, but the feel of them is fantastic to say the least. They don't have a reinforced tip section like DG so that's why they "feel" better, but also why they launch higher.
I haven't had enough time to properly work with 'em, but from what I hear, the apex of the ball is about the same with KBS as it is with PX, it just gets there quicker with KBS and flattens out.
I was playing in about 30mph winds last time out with them, so I had a hard time gauging just what the flight was doing. Struggled keeping them down, but as soon as the ball got about 15' in the air, it was up, up and away regardless of what swing I put on the ball or what club I had in my had
When it comes to feel nothing seems to polarize opinion like the PX shafts , you either love them or hate them. In the right flex for my swing they have always felt boardy and harsh but I have friends who play them and think they are the best feeling shaft they have ever hit.
You could get your local pro or club fitter to reshaft your 6 iron with a different shaft then you could compare the feel directly with the rest of your set. A club fitter will probably have some second hand pulls around that you could get cheap. Nippons are very smooth or you could give graphite shafts a go.
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Ok, well that's a pretty good consensus on the PX Rifle Flighted. So before I decide to shell out the $ on some new irons, I should figure out which shaft would work best.
Does anyone have any suggestions on a shaft replacement for the PX? Would Dynamic Gold HL be a good swap for 'swingability' while providing better feel? I see that scratch is using KBS Tour. Or maybe the NS Pro 105T on the Titleist side of things?
Any X-22 Tour users out there have any suggestions?
Thanks!!
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Boxer,
I have a split set of Callaway irons, PX Flighted 6.5's throughout, and have the X-22 tour's for the 4, 5, and 6 iron. My 7 iron through PW are the 09 X-Forged, same 6.5 PX Flighted shafts.
Like you, I hate the feel of the X-22 tours. They do feel very "clacky", whereas the 7 iron through PW feel great. I'm convinced it's just how the clubhead feels. For what it's worth, I've hit X-22 tours with DG and felt the same way. If you want to keep the clubhead, you might want to try KBS
I have put together several sets of clubs for customers wanting the project x performance on both forged and stainless heads. What I have found to greatly improve feel and reduce the harsh feeling you have spoken about is installing pro-soft inserts and the hardwood dowel tretment inside the shaft tips. I have tied clubs without this and with, It makes a huge difference.
David Mills SG Dale Pencil flowneck
David Mills Custom torched Heritage SS flow neck
David Mills Custom Carbon flow neck Hertitage V2 with Nitride finish
David Mills Carbon Ming V3 pencil flow neck
Byron Rincon DH89
As already mentioned, it's either love or hate, when it comes to PX and it doesn't matter if flighted or not. In my fittings, I always realize, that players with a mid to early release will say, that it feels harsh, dead and almost painful. Players with a late release seem to get along quite well with the bendprofile of the PX.
And the alternative is also already on the table: KBS Tour. Almost same characteristics with better feel. No wonder, since the guy who designed PX also did the KBS Tour.
Regards,
Michael
P.S.: ProSoft inserts and a softer grip can be helpful.
Wow. This has been incredibly helpful. I really appreciate the help.
scsc, in particular thanks for the feedback on your experience with the x22tours with a different shaft.
Looks like I'll be reshafting an iron with KBS to give the clubhead one more try before moving on.
The only potential downside I might anticipate is that KBS says to expect the swingweight to drop two points. I really get uncomfortable when I can't feel the clubhead. But, I'll give it a shot and see if I even notice.
Thanks again for the feedback--great team here at GolfWRX!
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Ok, well that's a pretty good consensus on the PX Rifle Flighted. So before I decide to shell out the $$ on some new irons, I should figure out which shaft would work best.
Does anyone have any suggestions on a shaft replacement for the PX? Would Dynamic Gold HL be a good swap for 'swingability' while providing better feel? I see that scratch is using KBS Tour. Or maybe the NS Pro 105T on the Titleist side of things?
Any X-22 Tour users out there have any suggestions?
Thanks!!
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I tried KBS tour 90's and Nippon 105t and they were nice but I went back to my old favorite Mizuno Tour Spec 103gram graphite and they are nice with the forged Mizuno head. To bad they are not offering them anymore.
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