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100% credit goes to my dear friend Kenneth So.
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Since I sent the link of the Smithsonian Magazine article about the number Zero (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/origin-number-zero-180953392/?no-ist), I received comments from a couple of Khmers and a Vietnamese doubting that Khmers were the inventor of the number Zero.
Prior to 1930, most people such as the British scholar G. R. Kaye believed that Zero was invented by either the Arabs or the Europeans. In his Euro-centric’s bias, Kaye refuted the claim that Indian was the first inventor of Zero. During that time, the oldest Zero was discovered at the temple of Chatur-bujha in Gwalior, a major historical city in Madhya Pradesh in India, dating to the mid-9th century. Because that period of time coincided with the Islamic leadership centered around the Caliph, Kaye with his bias and without proof theorized that Zero was invented by the European and then reached India through trades from Arab merchants.
Now, with the rediscovery of the K.127 stele (the numeration was given by George Coedes after he discovered the stele in 1931) by Amir Aczel showing clearly the date 605 Sakarach etched on the stone, which corresponded to 683 AD or 684 AD depending on the month that the inscription was etched, some Khmer people (and just recently also a Vietnamese) refused to believe that our ancestors could create such an important invention.
Why people can accept that Europeans, Indians, or Arabs invented Zero but they cannot accept that Khmers could achieve such a feat also? Have they forgotten that ancient Khmers had built temples and monuments as grandiose and complicated as the European, Arab, and Indian? Building such monuments required engineering knowledge. The proof is in the pudding, but people still doubt us. It seems some of us have forgotten our roots.
Until archaeologists and/or scholars can come up with a new and indisputable proof of Zero invented by other people, for the moment Khmers can bathe in reflected glory of our ancestors’ achievement.
Kenneth So
Dear Serey & Mealy,Please do not give me any credits because I am only a messenger. I am only happy to share good news with our Khmer people.Thanks,Ken
Kenneth So
Aryasatya (Sanskrit)
Chattari Ariyasachchani (Pali)
Chatuk Arei Sachak (Khmer)
The Four Noble Truths (English)
In Steps with Khmer Soul & Khmer Conscience
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Serey Kiman <skim...@gmail.com> wrote:
Since I sent the link of the Smithsonian Magazine article about the number Zero (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/origin-number-zero-180953392/?no-ist), I received comments from a couple of Khmers and a Vietnamese doubting that Khmers were the inventor of the number Zero.
Prior to 1930, most people such as the British scholar G. R. Kaye believed that Zero was invented by either the Arabs or the Europeans. In his Euro-centric’s bias, Kaye refuted the claim that Indian was the first inventor of Zero. During that time, the oldest Zero was discovered at the temple of Chatur-bujha in Gwalior, a major historical city in Madhya Pradesh in India, dating to the mid-9th century. Because that period of time coincided with the Islamic leadership centered around the Caliph, Kaye with his bias and without proof theorized that Zero was invented by the European and then reached India through trades from Arab merchants.
Now, with the rediscovery of the K.127 stele (the numeration was given by George Coedes after he discovered the stele in 1931) by Amir Aczel showing clearly the date 605 Sakarach etched on the stone, which corresponded to 683 AD or 684 AD depending on the month that the inscription was etched, some Khmer people (and just recently also a Vietnamese) refused to believe that our ancestors could create such an important invention.
Why people can accept that Europeans, Indians, or Arabs invented Zero but they cannot accept that Khmers could achieve such a feat also? Have they forgotten that ancient Khmers had built temples and monuments as grandiose and complicated as the European, Arab, and Indian? Building such monuments required engineering knowledge. The proof is in the pudding, but people still doubt us. It seems some of us have forgotten our roots.
Until archaeologists and/or scholars can come up with a new and indisputable proof of Zero invented by other people, for the moment Khmers can bathe in reflected glory of our ancestors’ achievement.
Kenneth So
Kenneth So
Aryasatya (Sanskrit)
Chattari Ariyasachchani (Pali)
Chatuk Arei Sachak (Khmer)
The Four Noble Truths (English)
In Steps with Khmer Soul & Khmer Conscience
Dear uncle Kenneth,
Greeting from Phnom Penh!
i was one of khmer that u described. After read your comment i again cant stop agreeing with you that khmer used to be on top and we still can do like our ancestors. Be proud of ourselves!
Best regards,
Sophorn
"The zero thus turns the numerals 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 into what algebraists call the ring Z(10). When you stack such rings one on top of the other, and you let them represent, in turn, the units, tens, hundreds, thousands, ten thousands, and so on, based on each ring’s location, you get the highly efficient number system we have today. Think of each ring as a dial—when it goes around full circle, you get 0 and you add a 1 to the ring above it. As an example, start with the number 5—this means only the lowest ring, that of the units, is nonempty, and has the number 5. Now add to this the number 7. Five units from the 7 will bring the units ring to 0 and make the tens ring jump up to 1. The remaining 2 from the 7 will make the lowest ring (the lowest dial) now show 2. Thus we have that the sum of 5 and 7 is 12. Without the place-holding zero, which makes each “dial” start repeating itself after going through zero, we couldn’t do this."
As indicated by Amir, with Zero as a retainer we can write three thousand three hundred and three elegantly as 3333, but in Roman numerical numbers, which do not have Zero as a retainer, we have awkwardly write it as MMMCCCXXXIII.
Some people have argued that the Babylonians have used Zero in their number system, but Amir has argued that they used "a base-60 number system without a zero". They do however, recognized the beauty of the circular numbers as described above. Their number 60 is equivalent to our number 10 and 60x60 = 3600 is equivalent to our number 10x10 =100. Because the Babylonians did not use Zero as a place holder, therefore ambiguities crept up in their counting system.
"The zero thus turns the numerals 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 into what algebraists call the ring Z(10). When you stack such rings one on top of the other, and you let them represent, in turn, the units, tens, hundreds, thousands, ten thousands, and so on, based on each ring’s location, you get the highly efficient number system we have today. Think of each ring as a dial—when it goes around full circle, you get 0 and you add a 1 to the ring above it. As an example, start with the number 5—this means only the lowest ring, that of the units, is nonempty, and has the number 5. Now add to this the number 7. Five units from the 7 will bring the units ring to 0 and make the tens ring jump up to 1. The remaining 2 from the 7 will make the lowest ring (the lowest dial) now show 2. Thus we have that the sum of 5 and 7 is 12. Without the place-holding zero, which makes each “dial” start repeating itself after going through zero, we couldn’t do this."
As indicated by Amir, with Zero as a retainer we can write three thousand
three hundred and three elegantly as 3333, but in Roman numerical
numbers, which do not have Zero as a retainer, we have awkwardly write
it as MMMCCCXXXIII.
Some
people have argued that the Babylonians have used Zero in their number
system, but Amir has argued that they used "a base-60 number system
without a zero". They do however, recognized the beauty of the circular
numbers as described above. Their number 60 is equivalent to our number
10 and 60x60 = 3600 is equivalent to our number 10x10 =100. Because the
Babylonians did not use Zero as a place holder, therefore ambiguities
crept up in their counting system.