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Tony Lee (李首同)

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Feb 12, 2013, 1:56:24 AM2/12/13
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Hi:
I think it is very important to have an evaluation meeting and see what lesson we have learned and see what we can pass on to the next committee.

Since we already set the date for our committee luncheon on 2/23 at 12:30 pm. How about we have our evaluation meeting at 9:30 am in CEC?

We also need to review the finance report? I believe Suanne is working on it.

Tony

Allen Lin

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Feb 12, 2013, 2:16:42 AM2/12/13
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I have a MMT meeting in the morning on 2/23 so I won’t be able to make it.

 

But I might be available this Friday, 2/15  if Pastor Siu does not need me to be there for the Elder Candidates Training.

 

But next Friday is our Elder Bible Study meeting. I cannot miss it again since I missed it last time because of our committee meeting.

 

Allen

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Tony Lee (李首同)

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Feb 12, 2013, 2:44:59 AM2/12/13
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Pastor Allen:
I am fine to have it this Friday. Please let us know whether Pastor Steven need you to be there for the elder candidate training.

Tony

Allen Lin

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Feb 12, 2013, 2:52:04 AM2/12/13
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I will ask him tomorrow at the staff meeting. If I am not available, he might ask some other lay elders. But he may want another pastor-elder to be there.

 

I will let you know after our staff meeting.

oleta wong

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Feb 12, 2013, 10:48:21 AM2/12/13
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hi tony,

can we send out possible dates to see what's best?  it'd be great if everyone can make it:

sat. 2/16 
sun. 2/17 after church
sat. 2/23 after lunch

thx, oleta

Vivien YU

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Feb 12, 2013, 11:19:17 AM2/12/13
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I won't be available on 2/16 or 2/17.

Blessings,
Vivien

Allen Lin

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Feb 12, 2013, 12:42:40 PM2/12/13
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Me neither. In addition, we will have an elder council meeting on 2/23 right after church.

 

Sorry about my tight schedules. I don’t like being busy that affect my spirituality. But we really need to rely on God’s grace.

 

Allen

Tony Lee (李首同)

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Feb 12, 2013, 1:10:56 PM2/12/13
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Everyone:
Please give me three available slots and then we will find the common denominator.

Tony

Vivien YU

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Feb 12, 2013, 1:24:40 PM2/12/13
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I am available on weeknights next week on Tuesday 2/19 or Thursday 2/21, and next Saturday 2/23 after our lunch at Onami. 

BTW, the elder council meeting is on Sunday, 2/24.

Blessings,
Vivien

Tony Lee (李首同)

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Feb 12, 2013, 1:42:37 PM2/12/13
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I am available Tuesday 2/19, Wednesday 2/20, Saturday 2/23 after lunch.

Tony

Suanne Tom

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Feb 12, 2013, 3:35:20 PM2/12/13
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I am available anytime, anyway. 

Suanne

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Allen Lin

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Feb 12, 2013, 3:35:03 PM2/12/13
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I will be available this Friday, 1/15 since I  don’t need to be in the Elder Candidate Training.

 

I will be also available on Tuesday 2/19,  Wednesday 2/20, and Saturday, 2/23 after lunch (but this is not preferable since I will have our MMT meeting in the morning and I also need to concentrate on my sermon preparation in the afternoon for the following day.)

Geoffrey Hui

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Feb 12, 2013, 4:10:54 PM2/12/13
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I am free 2/23 all day, any Thursday night and Friday mornings and afternoons. I'm speaking this Friday for the college group, so I will not be available then.

Dong Khuu

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Feb 12, 2013, 6:32:09 PM2/12/13
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Hi All,

I am Ok with the following days
sun. 2/17 after church
sat. 2/23 after lunch

Donny

oleta wong

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Feb 12, 2013, 7:53:18 PM2/12/13
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i'm ok with after lunch 2/23 too.  pastor allen maybe you can give us your comments at lunch, then you can go home to prepare your sermon.

oleta 

Allen Lin

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Feb 12, 2013, 9:21:46 PM2/12/13
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O.K. if after the lunch on 2/23 is good for everyone. I will be with you all. I just need to get started my sermon preparation earlier on Monday. But always, Saturday afternoon and evening are important to me.

 

An encouraging news is that this retreat went so well, pastoral staff is thinking maybe we shall go back to our retreat every year. So I need to listen to your opinion. In addition, we need to start to plan to next retreat and recruit more new and young co-workers, etc.

 

Our retreat schedule also affect college retreat. So I need to be there to be with you.

 

Another alternative is to have it on weekday that we love to host you again.

 

I will try my best to accommodate you schedules since you all are such wonderful people to work with. J

 

Allen

Jennifer

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Feb 12, 2013, 9:36:56 PM2/12/13
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I'll be free after lunch 2/23 as well. 

oleta wong

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Feb 12, 2013, 10:41:43 PM2/12/13
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oh pastor allen, sounds like you have a lot to discuss with us.  how about tue. 2/19?  i think i see that tony, vivien, suanne, and i can make that day.

Vivien YU

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Feb 12, 2013, 10:47:55 PM2/12/13
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BTW who has the evaluation forms?  Should someone compile the results before we have our meeting?  I think it maybe my responsibility as the secretary or handbook person.

If I need to compile the information, whoever has the evaluation forms please give them to me/ Dennis  this Friday.  Thanks!

Blessings,
Vivien

Tony Lee (李首同)

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Feb 12, 2013, 10:57:44 PM2/12/13
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I have the form. I can give it to you or Dennis.

Tony
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Tony Lee (李首同)

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Feb 13, 2013, 12:27:41 AM2/13/13
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Pastor Allen:
Your call.

Tony

Allen Lin

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Feb 13, 2013, 12:59:20 AM2/13/13
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Yes. We can meet at our home on Tuesday, 2/19. Hopefully we can have something for you all this Sunday. We need to go to L.A. for a pastor banquet.

 

However, if after lunch on 2/23 is good for everyone, we can schedule that time too. I know that weekday night seems not good for those who need to get up early to work.

Tony Lee (李首同)

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Feb 13, 2013, 1:16:51 AM2/13/13
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Okay, I know Oleta, Vivien, and Suanne can make it on 2/17.

What about Jenn, Jessica, Geoffrey, Donny?

Thanks!
Tony

Jennifer

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Feb 13, 2013, 1:20:04 AM2/13/13
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do you mean 2/19 tuesday?  or 2/17 sunday?  i will be out of town sunday but i think tuesday should be fine for me.  

Tony Lee (李首同)

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Feb 13, 2013, 1:57:19 AM2/13/13
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I am sorry. Should be next Tuesday 2/19.

Tony

Donny Khuu

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Feb 13, 2013, 9:21:14 AM2/13/13
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Fine for me on next Tuesday


Donny Khuu

Geoffrey Hui

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Feb 14, 2013, 1:04:07 PM2/14/13
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I can't make it on Tuesday, as I will be in class at that time.

Tony Lee (李首同)

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Feb 14, 2013, 4:10:50 PM2/14/13
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How about Jenn and Jessica?  Can you make it for Pastor Allen's place next Tuesday?

Tony

K Louie

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Feb 14, 2013, 5:48:12 PM2/14/13
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I can make it.

Ken


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Jennifer

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Feb 14, 2013, 6:43:13 PM2/14/13
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I can make it Tuesday.  

Jessica Lam

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Feb 14, 2013, 8:32:36 PM2/14/13
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Yes, Tuesday is do-able. -Jessica

Suanne Tom

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Feb 15, 2013, 12:20:18 AM2/15/13
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Hi, all,
I was wondering, what are your thoughts on how to reimburse Allan chin registration fee.  Senia wrote a check for her, Allan and their son Thomas. Since allan did not attend the retreat, his portion should be reimbursed. I can ask senia to rewrite her check to reflect her and Thomas, I just return her first check. What would you recommend? Please let me know. 

God bless,
Suanne

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Allen Lin

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Feb 15, 2013, 1:03:48 AM2/15/13
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I did ask Senia about this today in the office. She insisted not to refund to them. She said that it would be like open a can of worms if we refund to people with good reasons.

 

For Allen Chin, because Allen has been very busy at the work, he could not go to the retreat.

 

We can discuss about it in our evaluation meeting.

 

I really want to refund to those who could not come. But at the same time, I agree with Senia. If we refund to people, then next time it will be hard to control the attendance. People may not take registration that serious since we open a door for them to get refunds.

 

Anyway, we can talk about in our next meeting.

 

As for Senia, she’s perfect all right if we decide not to refund to them.

 

Allen

Suanne Tom

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Feb 15, 2013, 1:20:26 AM2/15/13
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Pastor Allen,
I was wondering, maybe you can bring it up at your pastoral staff meeting on Tuesday. I would like to know what pastor Steven Siu thinks regarding this issue. 
I do agree that we should refund the ones that did not come at all. 

Suanne

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Allen Lin

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Feb 15, 2013, 1:29:09 AM2/15/13
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The Retreat Committee can solely make a decision on this. Usually we, the pastoral staff and the elder council honor the decisions made by the respective group and people who are in charge and responsible to certain activities and program unless there are some bigger issues needs to be considered or involved in the decision-making.

 

Besides, Pastor Steven Siu will be on vacation next week. So he won’t be in the office next week.

 

Let us talk about it and make a decision then in the meeting.

 

I am more concerned about others, not Allen Chin since I talked to Senia today in the office about this. She said that she insisted not to refund to her. So we need develop a policy on this refund process.

Tony Lee (李首同)

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Feb 15, 2013, 2:05:46 AM2/15/13
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I think we can refund it. My logic is this:

1) If we don't meet the minimum, the church has to pay the minimum anyway
2) The campsite charge us what we told them as of Saturday morning 10:30 am. 

Allen Lin

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Feb 15, 2013, 7:44:12 PM2/15/13
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I am fine with either way. However, it had better to be consistent.

Suanne Tom

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Feb 17, 2013, 9:49:00 PM2/17/13
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Hi All,
I am in the process of updating 2013 church retreat financial statement for our Tuesday's meeting, if you haven,t given me your reimbursements or a copy of receipts today at church, please email me the amount and category used for, like for example: registration supplies, so I can have it on the statement.
If you can email back no later than Monday night, that would be great.
Thank you for your dedication on serving on the church committee.

Suanne

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Suanne Tom

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Feb 17, 2013, 10:02:20 PM2/17/13
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Oleta,
When you get a chance, would you please let me know how much total financial aid was used and paid out. Did any youth advisors apply for financial aid, and was the amount paid subtracted from adult early bird price or from all youth price. Please let me know if this makes any sense to you. 
Thanks, Suanne

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