Humor in electroacoustic music - L'humour en électroacoustique

[Pierre Couprie]

Hello,

For a paper, I am looking for electroacoustic music that use humor or close concepts like derision, absurdity, etc.

I listed historical musics from Schaeffer, Ferrari, Savouret, Bayle, etc. but I would like to find more recent works.

Bonjour,

Pour un article, je cherche des musiques électroacoustiques qui utilisent l’humour ou des concepts proches comme la dérision, l’absurdité, etc.

J’ai déjà listé les œuvres historiques de Schaeffer, Ferrari, Savouret Bayle, etc. mais j’aimerais trouver des œuvres plus récentes.

Best wishes,

Pierre Couprie

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[Rick]

Steve Wadhams's 'Harley' is pretty funny.
It's on Sonic Circuits IV


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X048mRicfew

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[Dennis Bathory-Kitsz]

On Sun, March 29, 2015 3:45 am, Pierre Couprie wrote:
> For a paper, I am looking for electroacoustic music that use humor or close
> concepts like derision, absurdity, etc.

Pierre,

I like humor and absurdity (not so much derision) and use them in some of my
ea works.

Some humor is suggested by the materials used, such the text in "Rando's
Poetic License" (1978) for microcomputers and interactive audience, and the
mating llamas in "Llama Butter" for tuba and tape (1993).

Elements of serious works also contain humor or absurdity, such as
"Construction (on nix rest... in china)" (1972) and "bangstudy" (2007).

Sometimes it's silliness, if that counts, as in "Quarts of Madness" (2007) and
"Office Equipment Symphony" (2008).

Other use a more overarching humor, such as "Stomach Music" (1972), "Ah,
Minimalism!" (1985), "Body Language" (1993), "bellyloops" (1999), "No Money
(Lullaby for Bill)" (1999), "Spammung" (2003) (with voice in performance),
"Hypertunes, Baby" (2004) (with voice in performance), "Graffiti (A New Year's
Celebration for Noah)" (2007) and "smuttle" (2008).

You can find most of them here:
<http://maltedmedia.com/people/bathory/biglist.html>

Dennis

[Tony Seaton]

At 13:40 29/03/2015, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
>Other use a more overarching humor, such as "Stomach Music" (1972), "Ah,
>Minimalism!" (1985), "Body Language" (1993), "bellyloops" (1999), "No Money
>(Lullaby for Bill)" (1999), "Spammung" (2003) (with voice in performance),
>"Hypertunes, Baby" (2004) (with voice in performance), "Graffiti (A New Year's
>Celebration for Noah)" (2007) and "smuttle" (2008).

If you're looking for body sounds that can amuse (or shock, depending
on the student) - Try the first album by The White Noise (An Electric
Storm, 1968, Island Records, currently available on CD) - it contains
the track "My Game of Loving" in which Delia Derbyshire and David
Vorhaus leave little to the imagination...

HTH

Tony



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[Francis Dhomont]

Bonjour Pierre,

je ne suis assurément pas un acousmate humoriste. Néanmoins, exceptions à cette règle : Studio de nuit !(03'00, 1992) et L'électro (01'06, 1990), deux électroclips figurant sur le CD "Jalons" (empreintes DIGITALes IMED 0365), ainsi que Signé Dionysos (opéra de grenouilles!), très long : 28'22, 1986 (CD empreintes DIGITALes IMED 9608).

À toutes fins utile...

Bien cordialement,

Francis

 

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Compositeur

http://www.electrocd.com/fr/bio/dhomont_fr/discog/

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[Battier Marc Sorbonne]

Cher Pierre,

Je suis comme Francis, mais j'ai quand même une pièce qui entre dans ta catégorie: "Bam_HaHa", 2'54, sur le CD 'Pataphysics Sonic Arts Network SAN 2005. C'est construit sur les fameuses paroles de Bosse de Nage dans le roman d'Alfred Jarry, Gestes et opinions du Docteur Faustroll pataphysicien. 

Amitiés,

Marc

[Gilles]

Bonjour,

Pour ce qui concerne l'absurde, je vous recommande la musique de Jean-Luc Therminarias, notamment son "Spaghetti's club" enregistré avec David Moss pour 326 music.

Par ailleurs, même s'il est mort depuis plus de vingt ans, le  travail de Franck Royon-Le mée était, dans le même registre, tout à fait incontournable.

Amicalement votre,

Gilles Sivilotto
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[Grégoire Lorieux]

And let's not forget Mauro Lanza, especially "burger time" for tuba & electronics.
There is also an ironic piece I wrote, quite "private joke" , called Portrait prémonitoire d'Olivier Messiaen.

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[Grégoire Lorieux]

Dear Pierre Couprie,

recently, Alexandros Markeas made a conference about humor in music, using lots of his own pieces.

Maybe this will help,

Grégoire Lorieux

[Robert MacKay]

Mark Applebaum's 'Pre-Composition'...one of my favourites!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlx4DK_h8Ws

Rob
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[Tony Seaton]

At 15:37 29/03/2015, Grégoire Lorieux wrote:
>And let's not forget Mauro Lanza, especially
>"burger time" for tuba & electronics.
>There is also an ironic piece I wrote, quite

>"private joke" , called Portrait prémonitoire d'Olivier Messiaen.


Or, indeed, Leigh Landy's superb 2008 piece "To BBC or Not"

[Felipe Otondo]

Hi Pierre,

here are some works related to the topic:

Whisssh...! (Federico Schumacher, 2006)
One hell of a place to lose a cow (Ambrose Field, 2004)
Globalalia (Trevor Wishart, 2004)
Zapping Zappa (Felipe Otondo, 2004)
La panadería (Eduardo Kusnir, 1994)
Mambo a la Braque (Javier Alvarez, 1990).

An interesting project entitled 'Smiling Through My Teeth', curated by Vicki Bennett in 2008 for the Sonic Arts Network. Here you can find information and listen to the works related to the project:

http://www.ubu.com/sound/plu_smiling.html


There was also a special edition of 'The Wire' magazine about humour and music in June 2005:

http://www.thewire.co.uk/issues/256

Best,

Felipe

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[Nicolas Marty]

Bonjour Pierre,

De manière générale, la réception des pièces de Wishart (Red Bird, VOX, Tongues of Fire, Encounters) inclut apparemment souvent une réaction dans ce genre là, parce qu'il utilise des sons de voix très identifiables. Il m'avait dit que ça ne lui posait pas de problème que les gens trouvent d'abord un aspect ridicule à ces productions vocales, mais que ça n'était pas tellement son objet, par contre.

Nicolas Marty
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[alcides lanza]

Cher Pierre:

 I have one interesting piece, ekphonesis II [1968-III], for acting voice, piano and tape, also with slide projections. It is a 'joke' on opera and art music, etc. 

There is an mp3 in the CEC-SONUS: http://cec.sonus.ca/electrobox/sonus01/lanza_ekphonesis_II.mp3

Perhaps also in the Dal Farra e/a collection.

Score es available from my publishing house, SHELAN [see below]

The book on me by Pamela Jones speaks about this piece. [Pamela Jones - 'alcides lanza - Portrait of a composer', McGill Queens Univ. Press.

Bonne chance on votre essay, alcides

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Try this. Some sections are online. If you like it and want a disk and the book, let me know:

http://opaquemelodies.com/jocks.html

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Hi there

The following is a list of pieces NAISA has included in its annual Deep Wireless CD collection over the last 10 years that fit the bill. These immediately came to mind but there are many more depending on your definition of humour (i.e. does it include political satire, for instance?). You can scroll down this url to get the descriptions: http://naisa.ca/media-archive/compactdiscs/

Nadene

Deep Wireless 6 CD Disc 1 #1
The ugliest sound in the world by Richard Marseilles (a mockumentary) http://cec.sonus.ca/electrobox/sonus05/16150_marsell_theuglie.mp3

Deep Wireless 6 CD Disc 1 #4
DR. NAUT, an audible comic book by Jobina Tinnemans http://cec.sonus.ca/electrobox/sonus05/16152_tinnema_drnautan.mp3

Deep Wireless 5 CD 1 #13
The One Minute Piece That Took Me Ages To Do And Which Is Really Impressive by Moritz Eggert http://cec.sonus.ca/electrobox/sonus04/15828_eggert_theonemi.mp3

Deep Wireless 4 CD 2 #1
Mr. Right by Inge Hoonte http://cec.sonus.ca/electrobox/sonus04/Hoonte_Mr_Right.mp3

Deep Wireless 2 CD 1 #2
As We Know by Gregory Whitehead http://cec.sonus.ca/electrobox/sonus03/whitehead_as_we_know.mp3

> On Mar 29, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Felipe Otondo <foto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Pierre,
>
> here are some works related to the topic:
>
> Whisssh...! (Federico Schumacher, 2006)
> One hell of a place to lose a cow (Ambrose Field, 2004)
> Globalalia (Trevor Wishart, 2004)
> Zapping Zappa (Felipe Otondo, 2004)
> La panadería (Eduardo Kusnir, 1994)
> Mambo a la Braque (Javier Alvarez, 1990).
>
> An interesting project entitled 'Smiling Through My Teeth', curated by Vicki Bennett in 2008 for the Sonic Arts Network. Here you can find information and listen to the works related to the project:
>
> http://www.ubu.com/sound/plu_smiling.html
>
>
> There was also a special edition of 'The Wire' magazine about humour and music in June 2005:
>
> http://www.thewire.co.uk/issues/256
>
> Best,
>
> Felipe
>
>

> From: couprie...@free.fr
> Subject: [cec-c] Humor in electroacoustic music - L'humour en électroacoustique
> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:45:13 +0200
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>
> Hello,
>
> For a paper, I am looking for electroacoustic music that use humor or close concepts like derision, absurdity, etc.
> I listed historical musics from Schaeffer, Ferrari, Savouret, Bayle, etc. but I would like to find more recent works.
>
> Bonjour,
>
> Pour un article, je cherche des musiques électroacoustiques qui utilisent l’humour ou des concepts proches comme la dérision, l’absurdité, etc.
> J’ai déjà listé les œuvres historiques de Schaeffer, Ferrari, Savouret Bayle, etc. mais j’aimerais trouver des œuvres plus récentes.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Pierre Couprie
>
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> School of Education, Paris-Sorbonne University
> http://www.pierrecouprie.fr
> Institut de recherche en musicologie (UMR 8223 CNRS)
> http://www.iremus.cnrs.fr
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[Kevin Austin]

In the late 1970s, early 1980s I created a series of live-processed text-based compositions calls ‘James-Texts’. The texts were semi-nonsensical cosmic humor ideas, ‘comedic' in the sense of the late novels of Samuel Beckett, such as The Unnameable. The humor is strongly linguistically-based English, and contains sonic representations of concrete and visual poetry. Performed by voice and four [or more] channels of processing.

There are also two other pieces I composed in the early 80s for tape, processed in realtime, 4 to 6 channels. Tapeloop, which is based on a recorded improvisation of the text, “This is a tapeloop”, <8-)>, and, “No too, This is not a tapeloop”, which is based on a tapeloop with the text, “No too, this is not a tapeloop”. Ceci n’est pas une pipe.

Itself based upon Korzybski “anything one says a thing is, it isn’t”. The humor is highly contextual and cultural.

Most of my music-theatrical ea presentations were found to be hilarious or heretical. One person’s banana peel is another person’s pain. The expression in english is “I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry."

Kevin

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[Vivian Adelberg Rudow]

In 1972 as a student I composed a music Puzzle. It was my example of splicing up tape. The sound source was a flushing toilet.
I kept a record of who got the answer the fastest. It was a ballet dancer who was having trouble with his toilet.
Vivian

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[alcides lanza]

Cher Pierre: je oublié quelque chose...la partition de ekphonesis II est excrit graphicquement, et en coleur, Vraiament comme un bande designée [comic strip...] [hommage a Cathy Berberian avec son Stripsody].

La partition est editée par SHELAN

Cheers, alcides

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[Sandeep Bhagwati]

Clarence Barlow's "Reidosklopädie-Enzyklosport" (1974? WDR) comes to mind, a series of dozens of biting satiric clips on the new music and classical music scene, including a hitparade of new music (to give you a little flavour: Winner is, "Verkehrte Nacht" by Roman Hausenstock-Gramatté, a recording of "Eine kleine Nachtmusik" played in reverse.) It even has a special satire on humour in music as well as a very earnest self-important voice explaining to us that in Indian music, everything is played a quartertone lower "so that we may easily fall prey to the illusion that microtones do not exist." In the background, we hear cheap electronic sounds simulating Indian music.

When I was younger, I immensely enjoyed as my inoculation against the inanities of the Avantgarde music scene.

All in German, though

Sandeep Bhagwati

[Adrian J Moore]

Andrew Lewis' one minute 'birthday piece' for Jonty Harrison's 50th on the limited edition disc 'bottoms up'.
Hilarious.

www.adrianmoore.co.uk

[Grégoire Lorieux]

Let's mention Johannes Kreidler's work, conceptual, acidly ironical, intentionally controversial.

Grégoire Lorieux

Le 30 mars 2015 à 06:23, Sandeep Bhagwati <sandeep....@gmail.com> a écrit :

Clarence Barlow's "Reidosklopädie-Enzyklosport" (1974? WDR) comes to mind, a series of dozens of biting satiric clips on the new music and classical music scene, including a hitparade of new music (to give you a little flavour: Winner is, "Verkehrte Nacht" by Roman Hausenstock-Gramatté, a recording of "Eine kleine Nachtmusik" played in reverse.) It even has a special satire on humour in music as well as a very earnest self-important voice explaining to us that in Indian music, everything is played a quartertone lower "so that we may easily fall prey to the illusion that microtones do not exist." In the background, we hear cheap electronic sounds simulating Indian music.

When I was younger, I immensely enjoyed as my inoculation against the inanities of the Avantgarde music scene.

All in German, though

Sandeep Bhagwati

On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Pierre Couprie <couprie...@free.fr> wrote:

Hello,

For a paper, I am looking for electroacoustic music that use humor or close concepts like derision, absurdity, etc.

I listed historical musics from Schaeffer, Ferrari, Savouret, Bayle, etc. but I would like to find more recent works.

Bonjour,

Pour un article, je cherche des musiques électroacoustiques qui utilisent l’humour ou des concepts proches comme la dérision, l’absurdité, etc.

J’ai déjà listé les œuvres historiques de Schaeffer, Ferrari, Savouret Bayle, etc. mais j’aimerais trouver des œuvres plus récentes.

Best wishes,

Pierre Couprie

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Institut de recherche en musicologie (UMR 8223 CNRS)

http://www.iremus.cnrs.fr

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[Hinkle-Turner, Elizabeth]

If you are using the term “electroacoustic” to also include more multi-media-type work, Laurie Anderson’s observational music (she actually likens herself to a “cultural ethnographer”) is quite amusing and humorous.

Elizabeth Hinkle

[Kevin Austin]

Oh, forsooth!

It was my understanding that we had put the defining of ‘electroacoustic’ into the bag with Schrödinger's cat.


Kevin





> On 2015, Mar 30, at 9:29 AM, Hinkle-Turner, Elizabeth <Elizabeth.H...@unt.edu> wrote:
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> If you are using the term “electroacoustic” to also include more multi-media-type work, Laurie Anderson’s observational music (she actually likens herself to a “cultural stenographer”) is quite amusing and humorous.
>
> Elizabeth Hinkle

[Pierre Couprie]

Definition of electroacoustic music always concerns the uncertainty principle :-)

Pierre

[Kevin Austin]

But don’t let the cat out of the bag.

Kevin

[Tony Seaton]

At 17:13 30/03/2015, Pierre Couprie wrote:
>Definition of electroacoustic music always concerns the uncertainty
>principle :-)
>
>Pierre

Too right there!

That's a bit like the life motto of an American pianist friend of mine.

Rocky Frisco (has played many live and studio sessions with J J Cale,
jammed with Presley in the 50s, among others) cites it as:

Raccoon's Law:

"Nothing is ever always anything".

Perhaps, in this instance, shades of grey reminiscent of 'Pataphysics?

As one of the BBC RWS team (possibly Dick Mills) once put it:
"Radiophonic can mean almost anything you want it to mean".

I like to look at it this way: There is no conclusive definition of
music; there are still boundaries to be pushed, and island planets in
the musical universe to be occupied. I dare to suggest that perhaps
the only composer who has approached an absolute boundary is John
cage with his 4'33".

At least our world is never dull, or devoid of new imaginative
possibilities. Long may it remain thus.

Tony

[Dean Rosenthal]

Oof. You can't teach an old cat new tricks.

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[Nye Parry]

(Hi)

... in which case there are a few things on here that probably fit the bill
http://www.gruenrekorder.de/?page_id=3927

including my own: My Name is Sarah Simpson - a response to being bombarded with unsolicited calls from dodgy law firms and the like (audio here,

http://www.gruenrekorder.de/?page_id=1878

- the whole compilation is available on the site as audio but not sure how to get it)

the piece owes a lot to Ferdinand Kriwet whose work I would recommend for humor (if you are a German speaker) especially Radioball (which is strikingly (no pun intended) similar to another very funny piece Ror Wolf's Der Ball ist Rund) both made of cut-up football commentaries!

Nye

[Kevin Austin]

Hmm . . . Well, I’m not sure that 4’33” is his. 4’33” existed long before it was claimed by one artist, and one publisher, and the collection of royalties and [non]performance rights. While the title may be ©, I’m not sure that there is a ℗ for it.

I recently forgot to turn on my home stereo system and played the piece [CD version] for two and a half days. It was a Travesty © T. Stoppard. Fortunately, as there was no one near here to not hear it, it was like the mute singing to the deaf, from beyond the beyond.

Kevin



> On 2015, Mar 30, at 1:57 PM, Tony Seaton <anthony...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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> . . . I dare to suggest that perhaps the only composer who has approached an absolute boundary is John cage with his 4'33".

[Nicolas Marty]

I think 4'33" is more than just non-performance or forgetting to turn on
one's home stereo system.
The duration itself seems quite significant, and its segmentation in
parts, too. So although the content may not be his, the frame is.

Nicolas Marty
(nico...@hotmail.com)
(http://marty.nicolas.chez.com)

[Kevin Austin]

True.

That’s glory for you. [http://www.fecundity.com/pmagnus/humpty.html]

And fame.

Kevin


Perhaps everyone on the list could compose a piece with its duration as its title, so for example, my next two pieces could be 4’32”, and the stretched version, 4’34”, both and each, for electroacoustic media.

[Tony Seaton]

At 20:19 30/03/2015, Kevin Austin wrote:
>it was like the mute singing to the deaf, from beyond the beyond.

OK, OK - so perhaps add Beethoven to those who have reached or
approached boundaries.

[Risto Holopainen]

I recently forgot to turn on my home stereo system and played the piece [CD version] for two and a half days. It was a Travesty © T. Stoppard. Fortunately, as there was no one near here to not hear it, it was like the mute singing to the deaf, from beyond the beyond.

Kevin

I had a similar experience recently when listening to a flac file of hundread years of silence, with the speakers turned off to ensure the best possible sound reproduction. But I haven't had the time to listen to all of it yet.

A few works of Sten Hanson might satisfy someone's sense of humour.

I avoid humour in my music, unless it's serious.

Risto Holopainen

[Adam Vidiksis]

I would recommend a number of Maurice Wright’s very humorous and thoughtful works, including Domestic Tranquillity and Darwiniana.

All best,

-Adam-

Dr. ADAM VIDIKSIS

Department of Music Studies: Composition and Theory

Boyer College of Music and Dance
Temple University, 2 Presser Hall
2001 North 13th Street, Philadelphia, PA 19122

www.vidiksis.com | 917.882.7397

On Mar 29, 2015, at 3:45 AM, Pierre Couprie <couprie...@free.fr> wrote:

Hello,

For a paper, I am looking for electroacoustic music that use humor or close concepts like derision, absurdity, etc.

I listed historical musics from Schaeffer, Ferrari, Savouret, Bayle, etc. but I would like to find more recent works.

Bonjour,

Pour un article, je cherche des musiques électroacoustiques qui utilisent l’humour ou des concepts proches comme la dérision, l’absurdité, etc.

J’ai déjà listé les œuvres historiques de Schaeffer, Ferrari, Savouret Bayle, etc. mais j’aimerais trouver des œuvres plus récentes.

Best wishes,

Pierre Couprie

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Pierre Couprie

Associate professor

School of Education, Paris-Sorbonne University

http://www.pierrecouprie.fr

Institut de recherche en musicologie (UMR 8223 CNRS)

http://www.iremus.cnrs.fr

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