College Council (ASC) Funding

[John Callahan]

大家好

This evening, the Council met for the last time this semester and
decided upon the different amounts of money to give to various
organizations and events. As you know, Chinese Corner was one of the
events that was considered.

After questions and voting, the Council decided to grant only $600 to
Chinese Corner for the Fall 2011 semester.

Some of the arguments of the Council members are as follows:
--Chinese Corner only serves a very small portion of the College of Arts
and Sciences student body.
--The majority of the money goes towards food, which does not meet the
goals of the College Council.

This is my response:
--Firstly, Chinese Corner was not designed to serve the majority of the
Arts and Sciences student body (which numbers in the thousands)--to my
knowledge, no weekly event in this entire University has the capability
of serving that many people. Chinese Corner is intended for students of
Chinese and native Chinese speakers; allowing other students to
participate would not only defeat the purpose of Chinese Corner (they
would have nothing to say!), but it would also be a major strain on
resources.
--Secondly, Chinese Corner is not just about the food. Yes, money buys
food, but the food is there to serve a purpose, and that is to attract
native speakers and students of Chinese with a nice meal once a week so
there will be plenty of people the students may practice with and get
their speaking assignments completed on time.

It is ridiculously difficult to get Council members to understand just
how important Chinese Corner is. The only way to make them understand is
to invite them to Chinese Corner--I have encouraged members of the
Council several times to attend Chinese Corner, but no one has shown up.

I will continue asking Council members to come out, but in the meantime,
we must work with the funding we have.

谢谢，
立忠

[Yue Bi]

立忠你好！

 

Thank you very much for what you've done for Chinese Corner. What you said made a lot of sense. Thank you for the good job and hard work you've done!

 

One thing I can think of is, Dean Yu is pretty interested and supportive for Chinese Corner. If funding is not enough or ASC continue to ignore the importance of Chinese Corner, I can go talk to him and seek support from him! The thing is, I need to know how much (minimum amount and optimal ammount) we need for food for one whole semester. How much CSSS could give us and how much of it can go into food and how much into nonfood stuff.

 

The other thing is, we should probably think of cutting down on food, either by purchasing smaller amount or fewer kinds.

 

谢谢你！

 

毕越

[Yue Bi]

As for inviting ASC to CC events, we could collaborate with other organizations and hold one big event so as to attract ASC members to come. If Chinese organizations alone are not attractive enough, we could think of working with other student organizations. This could be something to plan and look forward to for next semester.

2011/4/20 Yue Bi <yb...@virginia.edu>

[Fei Song]

Thanks very much John!

I understand you have do a best job to help Chinese Corner and I understand how difficulty to change the mind of those ASC people.

I think going to find other financial resources is a good idea. Yue, you said Dean Yu has shown interest in our program, so maybe we could talk this issue later with our new treasure Tingting, to see if we can get some money from him. But thanks for contributing the idea!

Currently we order $300 from Ming Dynasty each week, and usually $400 for the first several week. DELLAC EAC usually support us $140 and the teachers have some activity funds that can be used. (usually $900-$1200) So that is basically our finance situation.

Yours sincerely,
 -Fei Song

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:54 PM, John Callahan <jb...@virginia.edu> wrote:

[Chen Shu-chen]

Dear All,

Thank you, Lizhong, Bi Yue and Song Fei, for all your hard work and input.

Actually, the East Asia Center funding of 55 dollars, Asia Institute funding of 25 dollars, and my department, East Asian Languages, Literatures and Cultures funding are requested each academic year.  So I will have to request again before we can confirm the figures.

And the faculty entertainment fund is 100 dollars max per section for a full time faculty member. 

When I write to these different sources and get words for next year, I will let you guys know.

However, I am thinking to turn over all accounting matters to you Chinese Corner officers.  I will no longer attend Chinese Corner every time during the fall and spring semesters.    I will for the Chinese Summer Language Institute.  And the person in charge should hand the receipts to individual instructors rather than going through me.  That will keep confusion to minimum I hope. 

Chen Laoshi

[Haiyang Zhang]

Hey John, 

Thanks so much for speaking up for Chinese Corner at the meeting. I think they've been having the doubt since last semester, so it's understandable. Still, we appreciate your help! 

I think Yue pointed out a good resource. My only concern is that Dean Yu's office is definitely generous with funding any single event. But Chinese Corner needs a sustainable source. Again, a good way to try it out! 

Normally CSSS maintains a $800 budget for us. We can contact Songpan Xu, who is the current President at sx...@virginia.edu. 

Again, thanks John for defending Chinese Corner at the meeting! 

Thanks,

Haiyang

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:54 PM, John Callahan <jb...@virginia.edu> wrote:

[Yue Bi]

Hey guys I plan to talk to Dean Yu someday next week. Is funding from ASC for next semester already decided? Can we still try to lobby them and make any change? From Dean Yu, I'm thinking of either seeking funding from his office or just getting some suggestions about how we could persuade ASC to give us more money. (it actually depends on his ability to support individual student orgs... And we should just hope for the best and prepare for the worst)

Also, I can't come to Chinese Corner tonight:( I'm sorry and I hope to meet you all soon!

Best

Yue

发自我的 iPhone

在 2011-4-20，20:54，John Callahan <jb...@virginia.edu> 写到：

[Chen Shu-chen]

Hi All,
So who is coming to Chinese Corner tonight?  Please give me the phone number.

Chen Laoshi

[Fei Song]

I will come. 434-466-6332

2011/4/21 Chen Shu-chen <sc8uc...@gmail.com>

[Lingtian Wan]

I will come. My # is 434-466-6041. Btw who ordered food for today?

2011/4/21 Fei Song <fs...@virginia.edu>

--
Best,
Lingtian Wan
School of Engineering and Applied Science
University of Virginia 2013

[Chen Shu-chen]

I did since yesterday.  Chen Laoshi

Lingtian Wan <lw...@virginia.edu> 於 2011年4月21日下午1:40 寫道：

I will come. My # is 434-466-6041. Btw who ordered food for today?

2011/4/21 Fei Song <fs...@virginia.edu>

I will come. 434-466-6332

.

[Kan Chen]

I will be there but I'm not sure how long I can stay. 434-466-6338

2011/4/21 Chen Shu-chen <sc8uc...@gmail.com>

--
Best wishes,

Kan Chen

University of Virginia

Class of 2013

[John Callahan]

I will be there right at 6. 540-661-8609

On 4/21/2011 1:47 PM, Kan Chen wrote:

I will be there but I'm not sure how long I can stay. 434-466-6338

2011/4/21 Chen Shu-chen <sc8uc...@gmail.com>

I did since yesterday.  Chen Laoshi

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I will come. My # is 434-466-6041. Btw who ordered food for today?

2011/4/21 Fei Song <fs...@virginia.edu>

I will come. 434-466-6332

.

 

2011/4/21 Chen Shu-chen <sc8uc...@gmail.com>

Hi All,
So who is coming to Chinese Corner tonight?  Please give me the phone number.

Chen Laoshi

Yue Bi <yb...@virginia.edu> � 2011��4��21������1:30 ������

Hey guys I plan to talk to Dean Yu someday next week. Is funding from ASC for next semester already decided? Can we still try to lobby them and make any change? From Dean Yu, I'm thinking of either seeking funding from his office or just getting some suggestions about how we could persuade ASC to give us more money. (it actually depends on his ability to support individual student orgs... And we should just hope for the best and prepare for the worst)

Also, I can't come to Chinese Corner tonight:( I'm sorry and I hope to meet you all soon!

Best

Yue

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> This evening, the Council met for the last time this semester and decided upon the different amounts of money to give to various organizations and events. As you know, Chinese Corner was one of the events that was considered.
>
> After questions and voting, the Council decided to grant only $600 to Chinese Corner for the Fall 2011 semester.
>
> Some of the arguments of the Council members are as follows:
> --Chinese Corner only serves a very small portion of the College of Arts and Sciences student body.
> --The majority of the money goes towards food, which does not meet the goals of the College Council.
>
> This is my response:
> --Firstly, Chinese Corner was not designed to serve the majority of the Arts and Sciences student body (which numbers in the thousands)--to my knowledge, no weekly event in this entire University has the capability of serving that many people. Chinese Corner is intended for students of Chinese and native Chinese speakers; allowing other students to participate would not only defeat the purpose of Chinese Corner (they would have nothing to say!), but it would also be a major strain on resources.
> --Secondly, Chinese Corner is not just about the food. Yes, money buys food, but the food is there to serve a purpose, and that is to attract native speakers and students of Chinese with a nice meal once a week so there will be plenty of people the students may practice with and get their speaking assignments completed on time.
>
> It is ridiculously difficult to get Council members to understand just how important Chinese Corner is. The only way to make them understand is to invite them to Chinese Corner--I have encouraged members of the Council several times to attend Chinese Corner, but no one has shown up.
>
> I will continue asking Council members to come out, but in the meantime, we must work with the funding we have.
>

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--
Best,
Lingtian Wan
School of Engineering and Applied Science
University of Virginia 2013

[Fei Song]

Tingting and I will go and talk with Dean Yu next Wed.

2011/4/21 John Callahan <jb...@virginia.edu>

I will be there right at 6. 540-661-8609

On 4/21/2011 1:47 PM, Kan Chen wrote:

I will be there but I'm not sure how long I can stay. 434-466-6338

2011/4/21 Chen Shu-chen <sc8uc...@gmail.com>

I did since yesterday.  Chen Laoshi

Lingtian Wan <lw...@virginia.edu> 於 2011年4月21日下午1:40 寫道：

I will come. My # is 434-466-6041. Btw who ordered food for today?

2011/4/21 Fei Song <fs...@virginia.edu>

I will come. 434-466-6332

.

 

2011/4/21 Chen Shu-chen <sc8uc...@gmail.com>

Hi All,
So who is coming to Chinese Corner tonight?  Please give me the phone number.

Chen Laoshi

Yue Bi <yb...@virginia.edu> 於 2011年4月21日下午1:30 寫道：

Hey guys I plan to talk to Dean Yu someday next week. Is funding from ASC for next semester already decided? Can we still try to lobby them and make any change? From Dean Yu, I'm thinking of either seeking funding from his office or just getting some suggestions about how we could persuade ASC to give us more money. (it actually depends on his ability to support individual student orgs... And we should just hope for the best and prepare for the worst)

Also, I can't come to Chinese Corner tonight:( I'm sorry and I hope to meet you all soon!

Best

Yue

发自我的 iPhone

在 2011-4-20，20:54，John Callahan <jb...@virginia.edu> 写到：

> 大家好

>
> This evening, the Council met for the last time this semester and decided upon the different amounts of money to give to various organizations and events. As you know, Chinese Corner was one of the events that was considered.
>
> After questions and voting, the Council decided to grant only $600 to Chinese Corner for the Fall 2011 semester.
>
> Some of the arguments of the Council members are as follows:
> --Chinese Corner only serves a very small portion of the College of Arts and Sciences student body.
> --The majority of the money goes towards food, which does not meet the goals of the College Council.
>
> This is my response:
> --Firstly, Chinese Corner was not designed to serve the majority of the Arts and Sciences student body (which numbers in the thousands)--to my knowledge, no weekly event in this entire University has the capability of serving that many people. Chinese Corner is intended for students of Chinese and native Chinese speakers; allowing other students to participate would not only defeat the purpose of Chinese Corner (they would have nothing to say!), but it would also be a major strain on resources.
> --Secondly, Chinese Corner is not just about the food. Yes, money buys food, but the food is there to serve a purpose, and that is to attract native speakers and students of Chinese with a nice meal once a week so there will be plenty of people the students may practice with and get their speaking assignments completed on time.
>
> It is ridiculously difficult to get Council members to understand just how important Chinese Corner is. The only way to make them understand is to invite them to Chinese Corner--I have encouraged members of the Council several times to attend Chinese Corner, but no one has shown up.
>
> I will continue asking Council members to come out, but in the meantime, we must work with the funding we have.
>

> 谢谢，
> 立忠

--
Best,
Lingtian Wan
School of Engineering and Applied Science
University of Virginia 2013

[Yue Bi]

when on Wed are you going? I'd love to join you! Do you need me to go schedule an appointment with him today? Give me a time you are free..sometime around 4PM?

2011/4/22 Fei Song <fs...@virginia.edu>

[Fei Song]

I have already scheduled a 2:30pm appointment. I will go with Tingting. Feel free to join us. Thanks very much!

2011/4/22 Yue Bi <yb...@virginia.edu>

[Yue Bi]

I'll be having a class then..what a pity:( good luck to your meeting then!!! please let me know what else I can do!

2011/4/22 Fei Song <fs...@virginia.edu>