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Michel Jichlinski

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Oct 7, 2013, 8:14:11 AM10/7/13
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LeapFrog's engine seized and the mechanics recommendation is not to attempt to fix a 1981 saltwater cooled engine but to replace it.  I would appreciate all tips and suggestions you may have.

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Michel Jichlinski

Bob Putnam

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Oct 7, 2013, 8:40:58 AM10/7/13
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On Better Mousetrap (Hull #335), we had a terminal engine event around a dozen years ago.  Started with a leaky head gasket – we found the engine would still run OK at higher RPMs … so we didn’t fix the gasket right away.  Bad idea: getting some water into the leaky side cylinder led to over pressure there, causing the engine to break the connecting rod.  It was OVER for that engine.

 

After working hours on a non race night, we towed the boat into AYC and used one of the lifts to pick up the old engine … can’t recall now what we did with it.  But it wasn’t all that hard.  Then we took the boat home, and waited a week or so for a new engine to arrive, ordered from Bayshore Marine.  Got the motor in a pick up truck, took it to the AYC sailing center and – sneaking in on another non race night – dropped it into the boat and connected everything.

 

It wasn’t all that hard to do the installation ourselves … everything came sorta pre-set up.  The cost of the motor was around $6K as I recall, but I’m thinking it’s much more now.  I think Larry Christy got a re-built engine for Big Kahuna at one point.

 

ALSO – there’s a mechanic at Bayshore who has a side line of rebuilding these engines, and would be a good source for a cheaper-than-new installation.

 

Good Luck.

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Bonnie Schloss

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Oct 7, 2013, 9:30:37 AM10/7/13
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The guy who came to check out my engine this year told me I should get a new boat.   But they fixed the head gasket and $2500 later the engine works fine. 
My recommendation is to find someone other than Bayshore Marine to fix the boat.  Anyone. 
At least you didn't have it seize up in the middle of summer.
Bonnie
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Karl von Schwarz

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Oct 7, 2013, 11:01:47 AM10/7/13
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I have had good service from Bay Shore on Huron's engine which was replaced in 96.

Karl

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Michel Jichlinski

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Oct 7, 2013, 11:21:45 AM10/7/13
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Thanks to all for the advice, this is great progress already for me.

Are there any class rules I need to be aware of re engine weight etc?


Michel Jichlinski

Stark, William D

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Oct 7, 2013, 1:17:09 PM10/7/13
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I would recommend Chris Oliver (the elder).  He did a good job rebuilding my Yanmar 2GM20.

Bill Stark

 

 

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The guy who came to check out my engine this year told me I should get a new boat.   But they fixed the head gasket and $2500 later the engine works fine. 

McGill Family

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Oct 7, 2013, 12:44:36 PM10/7/13
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We replaced Mary Lou's engine about 10 years ago.

We went with the genuine Yanmar and are pleased. It cost about 10k and the guys at Marine Engines Unlimited in Galesville did the work. I think they do good work and they continue to maintain it for me. This engine has a heat exchanger, so fresh water with anti-freeze (Dex cool) runs through the block and the heat exchanger cools the anti-freeze. It is also much quieter than the old engine.

The one weird part about it was they wanted it to spin up to 3600 rpm to certify the warranty. With the prop I had, it would only go to about 3300, so I ended up dropping another $800 on a new prop with less pitch. I was able to sell the old prop and recoup a little of that part.

Good luck,
Michael McGill


Michael Lovendusky

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Oct 7, 2013, 2:25:52 PM10/7/13
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The guys at Marine Engines Unlimited in Galesville re-built my Yanmar diesel engine on my Morgan 32 a few years ago and did good work for me also.

Berry, Beth

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Oct 7, 2013, 2:48:25 PM10/7/13
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Continuing g the Galesville Love Fest, I have been very pleased with the work Spike at Hartge's Yacht Yard (the old Hartge's) on Main St. has done on numerous engines. He's honest and does not do unnecessary work.

Beth Berry
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The guys at Marine Engines Unlimited in Galesville re-built my Yanmar diesel engine on my Morgan 32 a few years ago and did good work for me also.

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We replaced Mary Lou's engine about 10 years ago.

We went with the genuine Yanmar and are pleased. It cost about 10k and the guys at Marine Engines Unlimited in Galesville did the work. I think they do good work and they continue to maintain it for me. This engine has a heat exchanger, so fresh water with anti-freeze (Dex cool) runs through the block and the heat exchanger cools the anti-freeze. It is also much quieter than the old engine.

The one weird part about it was they wanted it to spin up to 3600 rpm to certify the warranty. With the prop I had, it would only go to about 3300, so I ended up dropping another $800 on a new prop with less pitch. I was able to sell the old prop and recoup a little of that part.

Good luck,
Michael McGill

On 10/7/2013 11:21 AM, Michel Jichlinski wrote:
Thanks to all for the advice, this is great progress already for me.

Are there any class rules I need to be aware of re engine weight etc?


Michel Jichlinski


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I have had good service from Bay Shore on Huron's engine which was replaced in 96.

Karl

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On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:30 AM, Bonnie Schloss <Bear...@verizon.net<mailto:Bear...@verizon.net>> wrote:
The guy who came to check out my engine this year told me I should get a new boat. But they fixed the head gasket and $2500 later the engine works fine.
My recommendation is to find someone other than Bayshore Marine to fix the boat. Anyone.
At least you didn't have it seize up in the middle of summer.
Bonnie

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LeapFrog's engine seized and the mechanics recommendation is not to attempt to fix a 1981 saltwater cooled engine but to replace it. I would appreciate all tips and suggestions you may have.

Thanks

Michel Jichlinski
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LeapFrog's engine seized and the mechanics recommendation is not to attempt to fix a 1981 saltwater cooled engine but to replace it. I would appreciate all tips and suggestions you may have.

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Michel Jichlinski
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Larry Christy

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Oct 7, 2013, 1:48:47 PM10/7/13
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Engine must be same weight as old one

Larry

Bob Putnam

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Oct 7, 2013, 4:27:45 PM10/7/13
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Here’s something interesting I found out a couple months ago, when having work done on our J-105 engine:

 

The J-30 and the J-105 have the same engine – except the installation in the 105 includes the fresh water cooling feature Mike and Kathleen had installed in Mary Lou.

 

I haven’t looked up the specifics, but I would guess the version with fresh water cooling is just a little bit heavier (additional heat exchanger and coolant reservoir).  If I were replacing my J-30 engine today, I would want to know how much weight the fresh water cooling feature would add … but I would lean toward accepting that slight increase.

Larry Christy

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Oct 7, 2013, 1:47:20 PM10/7/13
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Mile McGill and Rich Harrison have but replaced engines

Larry


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