change furling line from port to starboard?

[Dan Gilch]

My dock access is on the port side and the furling line is kind of in the way.

Thinking of swapping it to the starboard side and wondering if anyone else has done this on their 355?

Will check this weekend to see if it would foul the anchor locker or anything else.

If I have to re-wrap the jib in the other direction or something probably wont work as the cover would be on the wrong side.

Appreciate any insight on this.

Dan

Slip Away #144

[Delbert Patterson]

Dan

Take a look at CatalinaDirect part number Z3589 "Furling Block Dual Sleave".  These should allow you to route the furling line along the outboard side of the stanchions and thus reduce interference with port side boarding.

Del Patterson

Symphony #100 

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[mcboatface]

I saw that someone else used the Harken 7403 blocks to do the same thing. If anyone has actually used the Harken or the Catalina Direct part #Z3589, do either of them really truly get the furling line out of the trip zone when boarding on the port side? I too am tied port-to, and that line is right where you really want to put your feet. 

It appears we would need four of the blocks to get the job done, but since our stanchions have the "U" hook at the base, I am not sure just how low, or how close to the toerail we can get the line. 

I assume we do not have to change out the standard Garhauer lead block?

Darryl

[Michael]

Darryl,

Can you send some photos of your current setup?

-Michael

[mcboatface]

Here is a photo from our survey day, but this boat has the standard 355 setup with the four Garhauer inboard blocks until the furling line gets to the cockpit where John Salley made a couple of changes to deal with the aft stanchion weakness problem. This includes a cam cleat just outside the cockpit, which, of course, brings the line more inboard than those run to the stanchion. And thus, even more into the trip zone. 

Darryl

[Michael]

Darryl, I'm setup on starboard side.  It's dark here now, but I'll get you some photos in the morning.

-Michael

[Michael]

It looks like I have the same profurl on hull #50.  There is a torx set screw underneath you can loosen and rotate the feeder to the other side.  Running the furling line on the outside of the lifelines would free up deck space, but you would still need to cross the boarding gate.  If you are boarding port side, moving it it to starboard might just solve that issue though.  I would probably just swap the existing hardware to the other side and go sailing a few times to see what works and what doesn't.

[David Mills]

I have same problem with my dock being on the port side. My solution was when at the dock to secure the furling line on the midship cleat, then just let the limp line lay in board of the genoa track. Seems to work well, as there is nothing to really trip over while boarding.

Dave

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On Aug 28, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Michael <michael.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

It looks like I have the same profurl on hull #50.  There is a torx set screw underneath you can loosen and rotate the feeder to the other side.  Running the furling line on the outside of the lifelines would free up deck space, but you would still need to cross the boarding gate.  If you are boarding port side, moving it it to starboard might just solve that issue though.  I would probably just swap the existing hardware to the other side and go sailing a few times to see what works and what doesn't.

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On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 8:33:47 PM UTC-5 Michael wrote:

Darryl, I'm setup on starboard side.  It's dark here now, but I'll get you some photos in the morning.

-Michael

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 7:48:20 PM UTC-5 mcboatface wrote:

Here is a photo from our survey day, but this boat has the standard 355 setup with the four Garhauer inboard blocks until the furling line gets to the cockpit where John Salley made a couple of changes to deal with the aft stanchion weakness problem. This includes a cam cleat just outside the cockpit, which, of course, brings the line more inboard than those run to the stanchion. And thus, even more into the trip zone. 

Darryl

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 8:37:56 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:

Darryl,

Can you send some photos of your current setup?

-Michael

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 7:18:57 PM UTC-5 mcboatface wrote:

I saw that someone else used the Harken 7403 blocks to do the same thing. If anyone has actually used the Harken or the Catalina Direct part #Z3589, do either of them really truly get the furling line out of the trip zone when boarding on the port side? I too am tied port-to, and that line is right where you really want to put your feet. 

It appears we would need four of the blocks to get the job done, but since our stanchions have the "U" hook at the base, I am not sure just how low, or how close to the toerail we can get the line. 

I assume we do not have to change out the standard Garhauer lead block?

Darryl

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[Ken Kloeber]

I have a cam cleat mounted to the side of the coachroof (coachside???) and the hanked line has its home on a cabin top winch.  That leave passage that’s 99.999% untrippable. 

When single handed I have it long enough to run back to and cleat near the helm.  The location of the cam cleat is also such that once popped the angle of the  furling line run doesn’t automatically get caught in it (if I’m operating from the helm.)

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[Michael Green]

I re-routed my furling line to the outside with the Harken blocks and I really liked the improvement.  I always backed into my marina slip so we got on and off via the transom and didn't have the tripping problem you mentioned, but moving the furling line outside made more deck space all the way along the deck and made it easier to step out from under the Bimini to go forward.

Also made it easier to stow my whisker pole to the forward port stanchions when not in use.

I had a swiveled turning block anchored to the deck rail to allow me to temporarily (until I cleat-ed it) take the furling line to my port winch, or to my powered cabin-top winch which gave me a nice even and snug genoa wrap.  Ship shape.  :-)

Mike

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[Bruce Toothaker]

An easy fix! Great idea and so simple too.

Bruce Toothaker – Dirigo #97

 

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Subject: Re: [Catalina 355:3734] change furling line from port to starboard?

 

I have same problem with my dock being on the port side. My solution was when at the dock to secure the furling line on the midship cleat, then just let the limp line lay in board of the genoa track. Seems to work well, as there is nothing to really trip over while boarding.

 

Dave

Island Time II

On Aug 28, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Michael <michael.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

It looks like I have the same profurl on hull #50.  There is a torx set screw underneath you can loosen and rotate the feeder to the other side.  Running the furling line on the outside of the lifelines would free up deck space, but you would still need to cross the boarding gate.  If you are boarding port side, moving it it to starboard might just solve that issue though.  I would probably just swap the existing hardware to the other side and go sailing a few times to see what works and what doesn't.

 

 

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On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 8:33:47 PM UTC-5 Michael wrote:

Darryl, I'm setup on starboard side.  It's dark here now, but I'll get you some photos in the morning.

 

-Michael

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 7:48:20 PM UTC-5 mcboatface wrote:

Here is a photo from our survey day, but this boat has the standard 355 setup with the four Garhauer inboard blocks until the furling line gets to the cockpit where John Salley made a couple of changes to deal with the aft stanchion weakness problem. This includes a cam cleat just outside the cockpit, which, of course, brings the line more inboard than those run to the stanchion. And thus, even more into the trip zone. 

 

Darryl

 

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 8:37:56 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:

Darryl,

 

Can you send some photos of your current setup?

 

-Michael

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 7:18:57 PM UTC-5 mcboatface wrote:

I saw that someone else used the Harken 7403 blocks to do the same thing. If anyone has actually used the Harken or the Catalina Direct part #Z3589, do either of them really truly get the furling line out of the trip zone when boarding on the port side? I too am tied port-to, and that line is right where you really want to put your feet. 

 

It appears we would need four of the blocks to get the job done, but since our stanchions have the "U" hook at the base, I am not sure just how low, or how close to the toerail we can get the line. 

 

I assume we do not have to change out the standard Garhauer lead block?

 

Darryl

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[mcboatface]

So many good suggestions here. Thanks to all. There is some chance we will be changing slips in the next few months, so I think I will wait to see if we end up port-to or starboard-to before making any changes. I do like those Harken blocks though as they appear to have a lower profile. I was looking at the possibility of just turning our existing hardware outboard, as suggested by Michael, but at a quick glance it seems this would bring the line outside the toerail. I might try turning one just to see...

Darryl

[Dan Gilch]

As an update I got the outside furling sheaves recommended by Del. Looks like this will be a big improvement for me. I got four to replace the four inside fairleads I had and I probably could have used five but think I am ok.

Also added a block attached to the toe rail as far back as I could get it.  I did not have the block attached to the stern rail which caused issues for some.  Adding the block at the toe rail keeps the line closer to the toe rail and makes it easier to furl the line.  Think I am going to like this set up a lot better. Thanks for all the suggestions. 

[Michael Green]

Yep, that's the way I did mine, too.

Mike

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[STEWART SMITH]

Dan, in your photo are these the Shaffer clear step furling blocks and if so how did you get them over the boarding gate stancions ? I can see removal of the life lines on the singles but the boarding gates seem to be another matter. Stu Smith #80

[Steve Lader]

Quick electrical question for the group.  I have used my cabin lights very little so far this season with our extended daylight hours.

Tonight I tried to turn on the main cabin lights with no success after turning on the switch.  The lights controlled by the other 2 switches 

(fore & aft cabins & courtesy lights) work fine.  Any thoughts?  Pulled down the electrical panel and did not see any obvious issues.

Individual switches on lights themselves were all on in the main cabin.

Thanks

Simplicity Hull #81

 

[Zach Smith]

I had a moment when I thought the lights system had died. Make sure you haven't accidentally bumped the light switches next to the galley sink and turned them off. 

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[Steve Lader]

Thank you Zach.  That totally slipped my mind after not having used that switch for so long.  I'm pretty sure that will be 

the answer when I have a chance to check it out this week.  I had a feeling that it was something simple that I was just 

not recognizing.  Very good! 

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[Dan Gilch]

https://www.catalinadirect.com/shop-by-boat/catalina-38/hull-deck/midship/furling-block-dual-sheave/?SearchResults=1 

No Stu these are Catalina parts .....see the link above.  no need to slide them down the stantions just remove the screw and it fits  like a "U" clamp around the base.  Dont tighten too much until you have them positioned where you want them.  I got four but would get five.

Dan

[Ken Kloeber]



CTY deck hardware is by Garhauer. 

https://www.garhauermarine.com/stanchions-accessories/stanchion-blocks.html

It appears that CD may gave learned it’s lesson about marking up things beyond its dealer discount that owners can buy direct for less.  CD typically marked up 15% to 20+%. 

Ken

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[STEWART SMITH]

Thanks Dan, I did order 5 as you suggested

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[Bob Story]

Good idea ... assume you got the SB-4?

-Bob.

[Dan Gilch]

Bob I ordered from Catalina Direct part z3589 which fits the 1" stanchions which was the right size for me.

Looks like SB3 on the garhauer site is for 1" stanchions and SB4 is for 1 1/4"?

[Bob Story]

Dan - yes you're right ... my mind took a modest break! :-/ Thanks for the correction.

-Bob.

[Bob Story]

Dan - I now have these on our boat and I am very pleased. It keeps the line away from the usable deck and is easier to furl the jib probably because of less friction. Thanks for the recommendation!

-Bob.

[Dan Gilch]

Glad to hear it Bob...I think it was a great improvement for us too.

Cheers.

Dan

[Victorian Yacht Charters]

Hi ,

Can someone post or send me a pic what you put towards the bow end going from the furler. To run the furling line?

Thanks Dave

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[Dan Gilch]

David

I am having issues getting a pic to load but check the posts above and Michaels picture from Aug 28 last year. His furler is on starboard side but has the same block at the bow that I have on mine. Hope that helps.

Dan

[Victorian Yacht Charters]

Hi Dan ,

Thanks do you mean this block?

In pic. attached .

Do you have yours facing the same way ?

Or did you rotate it to face outboard ?

I have this one on mine but on port side .

Ive ordered 5 of the double sheaves from Catalina direct.

Looking forward to getting them.

I run  skippered charters and will be a big safety improvement moving the furling line off the side deck.

Thanks David .

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[Dan Gilch]

I was not able to see your pic but was able to copy Michaels from last August.  His is on the starboard side but looks like the same one I have on port side. I did not rotate it to face outboard but did rotate it slightly to the back and outside to line up with the new double sheave. I have been pleased with the way they work.  Cheers...Dan