A request

[Samira Atashi]

Hi guys,

As you may know, today 20th February 2011 there is another protest in
Iran.
What we know till now is
People in different cities of Iran
(Tehran, Rasht, Tabriz, Isfahan, Shiraz, Hamedan, Sanandaj,
Mahabad ...)
are joining protesters in streets. However, news from citizen
reporters are showing till now
many of protesters have been arrested, 16 people in Tehran have been
shot
and probably 1 person in Tehran is killed by regime forces. Please
distribute the news.

So if you like to support us, please do share this status in your
facebook and
let the world knows that we are standing till taking back our country
from dictators:

United for freedom in Iran
20th February 2011


Thank you all in advance.

All the best,
Iranians

[Aylin Kasapoglu]

Hey everyone,

if you find the papers which were given as literature for cybernetics. Could you please share?

thanks..

 

 

Beer, S. (1985). Diagnosing the system for organization, Chichester: Wiley.
 
Espejo, R. (1994). What is systemic thinking? System Dynamics
Review, vol. 10(2/3), pp. 199-212. 
 
Morgan, G. (1982). Cybernetics and Organization Theory: Epistemology or Technique? Human Relations, vol. 35(7), pp. 521-537. (Only abstract available in the library)

 

Schwaninger, M. (2008). Intelligent Organizations. Powerful Models for Systemic Management. Berlin: Springer

[Mahsa Eshtehardi]

Hi, I have attached 2 of them.(2&3) The forth one is book that if I know which chapter is required,may be I can prepare it. MahsA --- On Tue, 2/22/11, Aylin Kasapoglu <ayli...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Aylin Kasapoglu]

thank you very much Mahsa
 

Aylin Kasapoglu

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From: Mahsa Eshtehardi <mesht...@yahoo.com>
To: case_sessions_for-2-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 1:48:02 PM
Subject: Re: literature

[Aylin Kasapoglu]

I want to thank to a person who sent an anonymous  e-mail to Jaime. Thank you really, you did very good job to snitch  your friends in a very wrong way and very rude attitude (even mentioning the people who don't deserve). Many people affected because of your behaviour and everyone who deserves or not got lower grade..I hope you are so happy now. But you should know that you can't rise through strikeover other people.

So far I understand we should spy everyone from this time. And many people know who cheats on exams..from this time whenever I see who is cheating on exam, I am gonna report to the teachers but not  as anonymous  !!!!

 

thank you anyway we are proud of you, anonymous guy (!) ...

[Samira Atashi]

what is the story?
I didn't get anything anything.. cheating on exam or email or what?

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UNITED for FREEDOM in IRAN
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

[tolga85]

if i need to have any comments i will ask this anonymous guy! maybe he
or she will start to give some tutoring for our thesis as well..
muhauhahuuhauha :)

[Rasha Al-Humadi]

Okey. What is going on ?

What are you talking about?

[Deniz KIZILCA]

I would like to say thank you too. Thank you so much! you the "anonymous guy" did teach us that some people around the world are full of ignorance, stupidness and cowardice.

Just because of your foolishness, some people got lower grades that actually this is not the point, because I unfortunately lost my trust to my classmates. 

I'm sure sooner or later you'll be fucked up. Hope it happens very soon!

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From: Aylin Kasapoglu <ayli...@yahoo.com>
To: case_sessions_for-2-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 5:52:48 PM
Subject: anonymous e-mail

[Mahsa Eshtehardi]

Aylin, let us know more about the subject!!! what had happen?! MahsA --- On Tue, 2/22/11, tolga85 <aty...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Banafsheh Parsa]

Hej all, 

Please someone who knows the story tell others what happens?

I couldn't understand the story.

Who cheat, what is the email and what happen?

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^///^//

[Aylin Kasapoglu]

as I told before that is the story:

 

Somebody sent an anonymous e-mail to Jaime and, she/ he checked all our first assignments and matched them with internet sources and tried to find plagiarism. Then  she/ he made a list of some people from the class and underlined the copied (!) places in their assignments to show some people did plagiarism. Then I guess Jaime got angry and changed everyones grades and decrease them. that is the story !! 

 

Aylin Kasapoglu

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From: Mahsa Eshtehardi <mesht...@yahoo.com>

To: case_sessions_for-2-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 6:37:14 PM
Subject: Re: anonymous e-mail

[Rasha Al-Humadi]

I’m sorry to hear this Ayline and Deniz.
Its a very hard situation and this anonymous person is so root ,what is his  benefits in doing this?wired.
I know about this problem of plagiarism and some of us have to redo his first task.
But I have no idea about you gays.

Rasha

[Samira Atashi]

Guys,

I already talk to some of you about this.

But as far as I know they checked the assignments for copyright issue
weeks ago. Yet, I was told that this issue were existed in almost everyone of
us. Since I was told that this is a new rule from now on to check
assignments with that software.

Anyhow, sorry to hear all of these things happening in a mature environment.

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:16 PM, FANTASTIC RITA <fantas...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey guys! It seems quite serious. I'm quite sorry for this non-ethical issue. I'm usually a calmed-down person. But now influenced by your emotions, I feel quite angry now. With my wisdom, I guess maybe we need to think out solutions rather than just being angry. Calm down, think out a solution and take actions! /Best regards Chen

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Thanks a lot for your kindness!
Best Regards

[Deniz KIZILCA]

Chen,

You're right, we should take some actions because blaming someone for plagiarism is a serious issue. In other words it is slandering others. Maybe, we can ask Jaime or the faculty to officially trace this anonymous e-mail address and its sender's IP.

For me all papers should be checked by examiners if their content include fraud or not. But this e-mailing is another issue.  

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From: FANTASTIC RITA <fantas...@gmail.com>
To: case_sessions_for-2-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 7:16:08 PM
Subject: Re: anonymous e-mail

Hey guys! It seems quite serious. I'm quite sorry for this non-ethical issue. I'm usually a calmed-down person. But now influenced by your emotions, I feel quite angry now. With my wisdom, I guess maybe we need to think out solutions rather than just being angry. Calm down, think out a solution and take actions! /Best regards Chen

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Rasha Al-Humadi <rashaa...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Tolga Yılmaz]

Hej guys,

 

the problem or issue is not being controlled by software programs or not.i lost my trust to whole of my classmates as well.i saw this email with my own eyes.so do not cheat on exams.do not do anything which is such as cheating or something like that.i keep on my eyes on you.i will report everything from now on.i knew some of our classmates were cheating a lot before.but no more tolerance anymore.

[Rasha Al-Humadi]

In its type of situation its effects all the class and they will check everyone so strictly.
Which I feel so angry for this also coz this effect us all.

On 2/22/11 7:16 PM, "FANTASTIC RITA" <fantas...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey guys! It seems quite serious. I'm quite sorry for this non-ethical issue. I'm usually a calmed-down person. But now influenced by your emotions, I feel quite angry now. With my wisdom, I guess maybe we need to think out solutions rather than just being angry. Calm down, think out a solution and take actions! /Best regards Chen

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Rasha Al-Humadi <rashaa...@gmail.com> wrote:

I’m sorry to hear this Ayline and Deniz.
Its a very hard situation and this anonymous person is so root ,what is his  benefits in doing this?wired.
I know about this problem of plagiarism and some of us have to redo his first task.
But I have no idea about you gays.

Rasha



On 2/22/11 6:41 PM, "Aylin Kasapoglu" <ayli...@yahoo.com <http://ayli...@yahoo.com/> > wrote:

as I told before that is the story:
 
Somebody sent an anonymous e-mail to Jaime and, she/ he checked all our first assignments and matched them with internet sources and tried to find plagiarism. Then  she/ he made a list of some people from the class and underlined the copied (!) places in their assignments to show some people did plagiarism. Then I guess Jaime got angry and changed everyones grades and decrease them. that is the story !!
 
Aylin Kasapoglu

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From: Mahsa Eshtehardi <mesht...@yahoo.com <http://mesht...@yahoo.com/> >
To: case_sessions_for-2-...@googlegroups.com <http://case_sessions_for-2-...@googlegroups.com/>

Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 6:37:14 PM
Subject: Re: anonymous e-mail

Aylin, let us know more about the subject!!! what had happen?!

MahsA

--- On Tue, 2/22/11, tolga85 <aty...@gmail.com <http://aty...@gmail.com/> > wrote:

[Aylin Kasapoglu]

it is not about revising the paper. actually from now on, all of us will be checked so strickly and  for this course many people got very low grade because of that person. and the most important one, I lost trust to people..So, whenever I see someone cheats on exams-I know the people do that--,  I should report her/him and I will do it by using my name, not anonymous way..Cause if you do something, you should stand behind it. So thats why I wrote these things then may be (!) taht person can understand how she/he harmed people..

 

 

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From: Rasha Al-Humadi <rashaa...@gmail.com>
To: case_sessions_for-2-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 7:05:23 PM
Subject: Re: anonymous e-mail

[Tolga Yılmaz]

 

and even i didnt have any plagiarism.i used only course book.this anonymous guy commented and highlighted some of my sentence,which he or she thought it was copied from some resources.anyway.that is the story.

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Tolga Yılmaz <aty...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Samira,

 

my name was written in the email .and there were a list of people also.Probably someone who was failed in the assignment,sent this comments.It was kindly requesting  to Jaime  to check those people's assignments and they have also some plagiarism.So it is blaming.why shall i trust more to my classmates ?

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Samira Atashi <samira...@gmail.com> wrote:

If Tolga saw that email with his own eyes, then this is another story.
Guys, please do not blame or threat each other by these words. It does not
have a useful reflection but fading trust more and more.

[Samira Atashi]

If Tolga saw that email with his own eyes, then this is another story.
Guys, please do not blame or threat each other by these words. It does not
have a useful reflection but fading trust more and more.

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Tolga Yılmaz <aty...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Tolga Yılmaz]

Dear Samira,

 

my name was written in the email .and there were a list of people also.Probably someone who was failed in the assignment,sent this comments.It was kindly requesting  to Jaime  to check those people's assignments and they have also some plagiarism.So it is blaming.why shall i trust more to my classmates ?

[Banafsheh Parsa]

Oh my GOD!

Now I got the matter, then me as well should thank that person. Now I could understand that why I got revise for the first assignment, because I shocked when I got the email that I should revise my assignment, and when I asked Behrooz, he told me that some students had plagiarism and should do again and I told to Tolga that night. so, it seems that one of our friends caused this matter. poooof

I can only say thanks.

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[Deniz KIZILCA]

Rasha,

I'm so angry with that idiot and sorry for other guys who were blamed. 

Nothing bad happened to me and Aylin just we learnt this sad story today.

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From: Rasha Al-Humadi <rashaa...@gmail.com>

To: case_sessions_for-2-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 7:05:23 PM
Subject: Re: anonymous e-mail

[Aylin Kasapoglu]

actually I  agree on obtaining the IP of that person. you can't blaim people without having strong argument..
 

Aylin Kasapoglu

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From: Erdelina Kurti <erdeli...@gmail.com>
To: case_sessions_for-2-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 7:59:04 PM
Subject: Re: anonymous e-mail



Hi all,

 

I missed all this heated discussion :)). Today I got informed about this anonymous email, and btw my name was on that list. So apparently according to this email sent to Jaime I also cheated. However this is not the point. The point is that this is not a way to deal with problems. This is the most coward, stupid, purposeless and childish way to blame others, who happen to be your classmates. I really don't get the point, but let this person judge this act.

In case Jaime invites me to meet with him, like he did with Tolga, I will definitely insist to "decrypt" this anonymous email. There are ways to do this.

 

Lina

 

----- Original Message -----

[FANTASTIC RITA]

Hey guys! It seems quite serious. I'm quite sorry for this non-ethical issue. I'm usually a calmed-down person. But now influenced by your emotions, I feel quite angry now. With my wisdom, I guess maybe we need to think out solutions rather than just being angry. Calm down, think out a solution and take actions! /Best regards Chen

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Rasha Al-Humadi <rashaa...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Aylin Kasapoglu]

I guess that mailing happened after people got revisions. that incident is not related to email.
 

Aylin Kasapoglu

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From: Banafsheh Parsa <banafsh...@gmail.com>
To: case_sessions_for-2-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 7:47:29 PM
Subject: Re: anonymous e-mail

[Tolga Yılmaz]

i aggree on it as well.

[Banafsheh Parsa]

Dear Classmates specially Tolga, 

Please let us don't put our accuse finger to some special group. By the story that Aylin told, I understand that I got revise because of that email, but it's not fair that I accuse those who totally fail or not. let's be calm as Chen suggest. If they want to check everyone strictly, so we all should wait until the result come up. I think it takes time. Now maybe most of us became distrust of each other, but we should be patient to see what will happen. We all, always tried to do our best in our assignments and none of us had no big problem in their assignment. so don't worry if they want to check our works.

I don't know who pass and who fail for a 1.5 credit assignment. we all passed 80 times more than this credit.

Although all of us are angry, but try to don't accuse any person.

I don't think that you are more angry than me that I'm the victim of this email.

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[Erdelina Kurti]

Ohh that is so easy Aylin. And btw accusing someone via anonymous email is a "crime" according to the law.

[Erdelina Kurti]

hahahah Alex my friend you are unbelievable. Actually I am thinking to name
you: Youtubepedia :)))

Lina

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex el pais" <alex....@gmail.com>
To: <case_sessions_for-2-...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: anonymous e-mail

Waaa what's going on here .... just logged on for a long time again in
my good old google Account and WTF ....

Anyways the lessons learned:

a) Life's a bitch and some people start early with training.
b) Be happy that it didn't already happed in kindergarten and be happy
that it didnt happened later in your future career at a company, be
happy that it happened now !
c) Dont bother and work hard (or relax nicely with your friends ^^) -
Anything is better than thinking about that dimwitted story. Every
second used for it is a wasted second, so is every hour and every day.

On a side note: Actually I wondered why they university didnt find the
plagiarism themselves ... didn't they say it all the time that they
are going to test it ??

@Deniz:
If that guy or girl is not totally stupid that he/she used a Proxy IP
... hej - we are IS students here, everybody should know how it works.
But ok, on the other hand, if that person failed ... ^^

@Lina:
Hmmm .. falsely accusing maybe a crime .. but that person delivered
proof, didnt (s)he ?
If I send a mail and state that you are a murderer then it is one
thing, if I send the dead body and a video of the killing, too, then
it is another thing.

Anyways: Good luck to all of you, and let's pray for the poor soul
that sent the mail. Tolga asked before what kind of person can do
such a thing ... the answer is clearly "a (very) unhappy and sad one".

And of course the usual YT video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GegStTB-PqI&feature=player_detailpage#t=405s

Naturally, the speaking professor is a poor soul, too, but still -
some people are like that.

Greetings to All Of You

Alex

P.S: How many people failed totally ? At least you should be able to
trust the ones that passed in the first round ;-)
Furthermore I assume that you can trust everyone on the infamouse
list. I dont thinkt that the person was that clever to blame
him/hereself, too ;-)

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Deniz KIZILCA <deniz....@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> I totally agree with Erdelina. As I said, we should find out who sent the
> e-mail.

> ________________________________
> From: Erdelina Kurti <erdeli...@gmail.com>
> To: case_sessions_for-2-...@googlegroups.com

> Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 8:18:15 PM
> Subject: Re: anonymous e-mail
>
> 

[Alex el pais]

Anyways the lessons learned:

Alex

> ________________________________
> From: Erdelina Kurti <erdeli...@gmail.com>
> To: case_sessions_for-2-...@googlegroups.com

> Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 8:18:15 PM
> Subject: Re: anonymous e-mail
>
> 

[Mahsa Eshtehardi]

haha,Thank you Alex! you changed the mood of this conversation:) and also remarked good points;) MahsA

--- On Wed, 2/23/11, Alex el pais <alex....@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Alex el pais <alex....@gmail.com>

[FANTASTIC RITA]

yeah. as i mentioned, it's better to calm down first. don't let the anger destroy our wisdom. and i guess we've already have time to calm down and maybe some have been in nice sleep:-). 

we need to behavior after careful thinking. we r intellects so we've our judgements with our wisdom or called intelligence. i guess we need to confirm or discover the facts. although the philosophy around us includes interpretivism, heumeunurtics etcs. for myself, i still trust in the testified scientific and objective habit. we need to learn about the facts first. 

and at the same time, i guess there will be opportunities to defend. Sweden is quite a democracy nation, let alone in academic area. No matter if anyone is extremely angry, the rules will not be decided by any powerful individuals. the ability in defending dissertations is also required and vital in master and doctoral studies. 

furthermore, after all professors will have a nice and care attitude towards us. i guess their purpose is to train us to respect the copyright. To avoid plagiarism can also be called to respect the copyright. rules will generally derive stree on humans especially when they have not been emphasized or agreeed but will result terrible punishment. i fuzzily remembered, prof. Andrew Basen mentioned about the Generosity (to be generous) in academics area. the protect of copyright, especiall Microsoft or other softwares, may actually not behavior good from some perspective. but i'm not sure about my memory. however, since the reference is a convention. it's better to follow them:-). 

i just temporarily and roughly/fuzzily thought out those ideas. i'm not sure if they r correct or not. i love harmony. living a friendly environment will be good to everyone in all aspects, i guess. with the nice influence to each other, we can then create an even more beautiful world. i hope everyone will live happily. i prefer to trust and love everyone before any confirmed sad report. 

more important, we have the system thinking and thesis tasks. we should concentrate on them rather than wasting time in anger. but for this time, raise highest attention on the copyright, at least adequate for a defend of questioning. does anyone has plan to present towards supervisor tomorrow? good preparation for u then. 

final to final, maybe we'd better keep the trust before any sad report. u know, trust is easy to build up but hard to be re-built up. but at the same time, i'll also agree with all kind of investigations. if there is any evil hidden among us, it's better to guide it correct or at least catch it. actually it's quite cruel to catch evil in peers. i dare not to see it. But it's better than being attacked in any unpredictable time. So whoever we r, including the evils, life will never come to an end. nice wishes for everyone! again, my ideas are possible to be incorrect and they may be my temporary ideas only. i'm just expressing out. Nice wishes again! 

Best Regards

Chen

[Deniz KIZILCA]

I totally agree with Erdelina. As I said, we should find out who sent the e-mail. 

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From: Erdelina Kurti <erdeli...@gmail.com>
To: case_sessions_for-2-...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 8:18:15 PM
Subject: Re: anonymous e-mail



[Rasha Al-Humadi]

There are some student who got to revise there papers because of this new program of plagiarism and I one of these students.and when I talked to James and behrooz they just asked to revise my paper.
But for this stupid person He/She,its a shame to do this for a 2nd master student.
For me its better like Lina said to decrypt the email in order to know who is that person he/she,and not to loose faith and trust in each other.

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From: Mahsa Eshtehardi <mesht...@yahoo.com <http://mesht...@yahoo.com/> >
To: case_sessions_for-2-...@googlegroups.com <http://case_sessions_for-2-...@googlegroups.com/>

Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 6:37:14 PM
Subject: Re: anonymous e-mail

Aylin, let us know more about the subject!!! what had happen?!

MahsA

--- On Tue, 2/22/11, tolga85 <aty...@gmail.com <http://aty...@gmail.com/> > wrote:

From: tolga85 <aty...@gmail.com <http://aty...@gmail.com/> >

[Mahsa Eshtehardi]

I don't know about anonymous email, but as Jaime told me and some guys: this is a new rule that they check all the assignments with a plagiarism checker software! and he emphasized that even if you use your own previous words from your previous individual assignments is plagiarism because you had got grade for that and ...!!! I got so sad to hear such conversation among us!  Although I am not sure about the anonymous email, but it is such a shame that in master level of education, we have such thinking manner!   I hope that the theory of anonymous email is just an excuse ...! MahsA --- On Tue, 2/22/11, Deniz KIZILCA <deniz....@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Tolga Yılmaz]

Samira,

 

the issue is not about who did see the email.the problem is about who sent this email.who can be so bad  to everyone?

[Erdelina Kurti]

Hi all,

 

I missed all this heated discussion :)). Today I got informed about this anonymous email, and btw my name was on that list. So apparently according to this email sent to Jaime I also cheated. However this is not the point. The point is that this is not a way to deal with problems. This is the most coward, stupid, purposeless and childish way to blame others, who happen to be your classmates. I really don't get the point, but let this person judge this act.

In case Jaime invites me to meet with him, like he did with Tolga, I will definitely insist to "decrypt" this anonymous email. There are ways to do this.

 

Lina

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Tolga Yılmaz

To: case_sessions_for-2-...@googlegroups.com

[R A.M]

this jungle we r living in, is full of CHEAP fucking rats!