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[Brayan Sedillo]

TheClean Cars Program represented the first program that directly regulates carbon dioxide (CO) emissions. Transportation is the fastest-growing source of CO in the U.S. and CO2 is the most prevalent GHG. In Maryland, approximately one third of CO2 emissions are emitted from cars. In addition to regulating GHG from passenger vehicles, the Clean Cars Program includes a Zero Emissions Vehicle (ZEV) mandate that car manufacturers must meet. These vehicles produce zero or near zero tailpipe emissions and will further help reduce pollutants from the transportation sector and reduce dependence on foreign oil.

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Seriously? I've never heard of any dealer charging for oil change contracts on an EV. If they did and someone isn't smart enough to know that then they probably shouldn't be driving. That aside, none of the mentioned items have ever been required and I've absolutely never had a problem with a dealer when I just told them that I'm not buying any extras. The dealers can't force anyone to buy a car with paint protection add ons or anything else. If they tried it, then just go buy the car somewhere else. Leaving a Google review is more productive than more government rules.

Good morning Mark,

I had fallen a victim of this extra charges from dealers, such as extended warranty and additional insurance, even though I had my own insurance already.

I did a trade in before I got my present car, the dealer never told me my trade in valued, the car I purchased was $17,000 and I signed the financing paper, but the dealer forged and my signature and also changed the car price to $22,000, now the total price that I have pay back is $35,000, I have been dealing with this issues for over 1 year, but I not got justice yet, this seller took advantage of me because I am female.

I have filed this case with BBB and consumer affairs ,

Dealer offers upgrade or fix mechanical issues on the car.

but I disagreed because it is a case of false price, forged signature and dealer open bank account on my name and without my consent.

I am still trying to find help on this issue.

Have a nice Day

Emerald,

What you describe likely constitutes several crimes including forgery, filing a false instrument, bank fraud and possibly others. I would suggest that you bring all your documentation to your local District Attorney's office.

I wish this wld've been in effect 6 yrs ago. The dealership where I purchased my car, took advantage when I took my car in for a heater core shortly after I purchased the vehicle, with the agreement to replace the heater core that went out before I purchased the vehicle. A yr later, I took the vehicle back in bcuz the heater core went out again (apparently, the dealership did not replace the heater core the first time). They had my vehicle for 23 days for a simple heater core that wld've taken 1 - 2 days at most. The awful thing was that my 90 yr old father who lived 2 hours away was in hospice dying. They wld not give me a vehicle to go say goodbye to my father. They wld give me excuses that the truck that delivered their parts had broken down, etc. After the funeral I went to pick up my vehicle. It had over $1,800 dollars damage. The windshield had been replaced, there was serious damage to the doors where they pushed my doors into a steel beam to keep the doors open while they took out the windshield, etc. I went to an atty & he said the judge wld only tell me, "you have insurance to cover that". :(

I literally just made a complaint of something similar and i am forced to get a higher loan on a better vehicle because im a female. No lawyers would help so now i figured if i have to pay what im paying atleast ill do my research and get something worth it. Im sorry you have experienced this also.

Report the Dealer to your local DMV Department of Motor Vehicles I think you will get very quick action. Dealers don't want DMV coming in and doing investigation on other possible fraudulent activities. They can shut a dealer down. Once the dealer knows DMV is involved your problem will be solved :)

DMV only covers for dealerships and themselves. Brought a Range Rover in for a windshield 9 weeks I get a flood vehicle back and no windshield fixed brought it to DMV inspection couldn't verify the vin and fake title they said it's under investigation with a Dave Fruwirth in the fleet dept. 3 yrs no answer and why would it be under fleet.

All of this comes from the fact that cars are the only retail item that aren't supposed to make money. Consumers want dealerships to discount everything to the point where the dealer is losing money, so the only way they can make a profit is by selling extended warranties and so on. Jewelry, furniture, and many other avenues mark their products up by a ridiculous margin. A normal car has barely any markup on it at all from what the dealer owns it for, to the MSRP. I understand hating that car-buying is scary, but these people are just trying to feed their families too. Most sales people are very friendly. and most managers and owners are family-men and women. If everyone wants the fear-factor to go away, everyone should just agree to let the dealer make a few thousand dollars on the transaction, and I guarantee they will happily serve you and take very good care of you. But instead, what most people do is go in and demand the lowest possible price, blow up social media about how awful the dealership was, and demand extra stuff for free. See the problems we as a society have created for the car business?

Start buy purchasing at a reputable franchise dealer and not a rock lot privately owned bad credit buy here pay here auto broker. Too many government regulations to protect the .000001% of the idiots in the world get in the way of good business.

Have you ever bought a used car? I can't believe how much bait and switch still goes on. I have the internet on my phone and they still deny they said this or offered that. Anything the FTC that helps stop these scammers is appreciated.

True. I just traded our new truck for a newer SUV and the ridiculous hoops I had to jump through to keep from getting cheated were a nightmare. They now have a lower rating and lost sales. Their parent company immediately trained them again. They Probably trained them to smile more while they are selling worthless add ones that nobody needs and don't get back when you trade in within a year but lesson learned. Will be going to a different dealership and Company next time. More laws just mean more Government fees. That seems to only help the politicians, not the people

Lots Lots of young people and 1st time buyers don't know that they don't have to buy extended warranty, etc. so these laws help those people. This law is not intended for someone that knows everything about shopping for, and doing research on cars. Sales dept knows how to decieve and misinform.

I agree with you Mark. I know some dealers try to do all the things people stated in the replies, but they can't force anyone to buy, or accept the terms. If a dealer attempts these things, you are at the wrong dealer. Leave and write a Google review.

I applaud the FTC for doing this.

I wish they would have done it sooner.

Not everyone has an electrical/ mechanical engineering degree.

My 78 year old mom doesn't.

If everyone knew the meaning of integrity we wouldn't need any laws.

Unfortunately that's not the case.

I want to thank the FTC for this new rule when it comes to purchasing cars. I have turned in a dealership with what their comptroller was doing to the FTC and to the state of Florida I have also come across car dealerships doing bait and switch because they didn't even have the car on the lot this company I did not turn in. If I did not have experience with a car dealership and how they operate I would not have known the difference but having 8 years experience working for a Ford dealership I did know the difference. People do not know how the as is works on vehicles and dealerships do not explain this to them. I work for a printing company when this one came out and I did ask the NADA what this stood for and they explained it to me. I do have a hard time buying a car because no one wants to work with me which tells me their integrity. Knowledge is power I do hope he will take advantage or learn what their options are.

Thank you again

People have a hard time taking accountability, educating themselves and having a backbone. More regulation equals higher fees to the consumer because of all the hoops the dealer has to jump through to be compliant because a few bad actors. Find a reputable dealer, they are abundant! Do your homework, if you don't like the deal walk away. Dig on GOP? Give one example of modern DEMS making a city, state or the country better.

The new CARS Rule will only level the playing field for the reputable car dealers, and make no mistake, there are many reputable dealers. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason whatsoever, other than trying to pull off a fast one, for the hidden unscrupulous seller to not quote the full and actual price. I can understand the exclusion of tax and registration because if the sale happens to be to an out-of-state buyer, these particular costs must be determined on a case by case basis.

Read some of the thousands of reviews of people who set out to buy a vehicle from unscrupulous dealers who are not obviously so. As things stand currently, there is so much time, money and energy wasted in trying to get down to the real price. This waste is totally unnecessary unless you're the seller hoping to gain from the chaos.

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