Feijoa's in the Northern Hemisphere?
Joshua Lamorie
Gidday there,
I've been away from the Antipodes (New Zealand) for three years,
and I've suddenly had a craving for some Feijoa's... but nobody here
(Canada) knows what they are!
Does anyone know where (in the world) they came from? I know
Kiwifruit came from china (?), is that the same place that the Feijoa's
came from?
If you know anything about these fruit, as in another name for
them. Even the botanical binomial nomenclature title... I would
appreciate it? I'd also love to know where they grow outside of New
Zealand and if they can be found in Canada anywhere. That goes for Feijoa
juice too.
Please reply to the group and to my email if possible.
Joshua Lamorie - jlam...@engsoc.carleton.ca
Thanks in advance
JOshua
suman bhattacharyya
Joshua,
The feijoa (feijoa sellowiana), a small tree of the Myrtle family, is
related to the guava and often called pineapple guava. It is native to
southern Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay, and parts of Argentina and is
cultivated in mild, dry climates for its fruit. The feijoa was introduced
into southern Europe in 1890 and into California about 1900. Hope this is
of some use to you.
"When someone with the authority of a teacher, say,
describes the world and you are not in it, there is a moment of psychic
disequilibrium, as if you looked into a mirror and saw nothing."
-- Adrienne Rich, "Invisibility in Academe"
Suman Bhattacharyya
Journalism II
Carleton University
sbha...@chat.carleton.ca
Brian Harmer
On 5 Aug 1996 13:49:32 GMT, jlam...@engsoc.carleton.ca (Joshua
Lamorie) wrote:
>Gidday there,
>
> I've been away from the Antipodes (New Zealand) for three years,
>and I've suddenly had a craving for some Feijoa's... but nobody here
>(Canada) knows what they are!
>
> Does anyone know where (in the world) they came from? I know
>Kiwifruit came from china (?), is that the same place that the Feijoa's
>came from?
>
> If you know anything about these fruit, as in another name for
>them. Even the botanical binomial nomenclature title... I would
>appreciate it? I'd also love to know where they grow outside of New
>Zealand and if they can be found in Canada anywhere. That goes for Feijoa
>juice too.
From website:
http://newcrop.hort.purdue.edu/hort/newcrops/Crops/Feijoa
Feijoa
------
Pineapple guava
Myrtaceae Feijoa sellowiana Berg.
Source: Magness et al. 1971
Feijoa trees are rather small, to 15 feet, with evergreen leaves 2 to
3 inches long. They will endure winter temperatures down to about
15°F. Fruit is generally oval in shape, 1.5 to 3 inches long. The
prominent calyx is persistent. Skin is waxy, dark green to yellow.
Scattered trees bave been planted in Florida, California and
Hawaii; but there are no orchard acreages.
Season, bloom to harvest: 5 to 7 months.
Production in U.S.: None commercial, mainly dooryard trees.
Use: Fresh eating, jelly, marmalade.
Part of fruit consumed: Interior pulp.
C. N. Robertson
In article <4u4u5c$b...@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>, jlam...@engsoc.carleton.ca (Joshua Lamorie) writes:
|> Gidday there,
|>
|> I've been away from the Antipodes (New Zealand) for three years,
|> and I've suddenly had a craving for some Feijoa's... but nobody here
|> (Canada) knows what they are!
You may be out of luck - I don't think they're grown anywhere in North America.
My local supermarket (Providence, RI - near Boston) has an 'exotic fruits'
section. In it they have a bowl of tiny, wrinkled, low-grade feijoas for sale.
The price? US$1.99 - each.
My advice - wait till you next visit New Zealand. Sorry!
Chris
Ken Davis
At a point in time, jlam...@engsoc.carleton.ca (Joshua
Lamorie) wrote:
>Gidday there,
> I've been away from the Antipodes (New Zealand) for three years,
>and I've suddenly had a craving for some Feijoa's... but nobody here
>(Canada) knows what they are!
> Does anyone know where (in the world) they came from? I know
>Kiwifruit came from china (?), is that the same place that the Feijoa's
>came from?
> If you know anything about these fruit, as in another name for
>them. Even the botanical binomial nomenclature title... I would
>appreciate it? I'd also love to know where they grow outside of New
>Zealand and if they can be found in Canada anywhere. That goes for Feijoa
>juice too.
> Please reply to the group and to my email if possible.
>Joshua Lamorie - jlam...@engsoc.carleton.ca
>Thanks in advance
>JOshua
Joshua,
This caught my eye. Several years back we had 2 Feijoa
trees cut as 'privacy shrubs' by a previous owner. They
bore fruit every year - this being in San Mateo, about 20km
south of San Francisco. I have also seen them recently in
a local farmers market in San Jose, California, but don't
know the local name here. I'll be down there this weekend.
If they're there, I'll find out what I can and post you the
news.....
Regards ---- Ken
Rachel Priebee
Joshua Lamorie wrote:
> That goes for Feijoa
> juice too.
YUMMY! Feijoa juice!
I really love Grapefruit and Feijoa juice, but I only rarely stumble
across it in some coffee shop, I've never found a reliable source for
it.
I heard that the Gisborne milk delivery also delivers grapefruit and
feijoa juice, but that's a little far afield for me!
Has anyone seen it anywhere near Wellington?
--
Rachel Priebee ("Supergoof!")
and Murphy the Mad Mutt
Derek Goring
Joshua Lamorie wrote:
09999>
>
> I've been away from the Antipodes (New Zealand) for three years,
> and I've suddenly had a craving for some Feijoa's... but nobody here
> (Canada) knows what they are!
I don't know about Canada, but 20 years ago I lived in Pasadena,
California for a few years and we had a feijoa at our back door. It
produced a bumper crop every year in spite of the desert-like
climate. In fact, we tried growing other vegetables (much to the
amusement of the neighbours)with absolutely no success, but the feijoa
thrived.
--
Derek Goring
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What is unfashionable is what other people wear.
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Michael L Steven
In article <4u4u5c$b...@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>,
jlam...@engsoc.carleton.ca (Joshua Lamorie) wrote:
> Gidday there,
>
> I've been away from the Antipodes (New Zealand) for three years,
> and I've suddenly had a craving for some Feijoa's... but nobody here
> (Canada) knows what they are!
> Joshua Lamorie - jlam...@engsoc.carleton.ca
The botanical name is Acca sellowiana and they come from South America
(Chile?) but I don't know where else they are grown - I've never seen them
in Oz either now that I think about it.
Vicki Steven
Kaylene Murdoch
Seven years ago when I was in Boston, you used to be able to get them at
the Star market in Porter Square, Cambridge. They were grown in
California so I guess there at least *used* to be some level of
commercial production in the US.
In the UK, locals do not know what they are but there are a few specialist
nursersies that sell them. We bought one earlier this year and it only
flowered at the end of July (in Oxford). I guess that if the time from
flowering to fruiting is really 5-7 months, we're going to be out of luck
as far as fruit goes!
Kaylene
murd...@oup.co.uk
Jim A
In article <4u9h7k$n...@news.ox.ac.uk>, Kaylene Murdoch
<k...@physics.ox.ac.uk> writes
We've grown one from seed, but it's a bit young still. Where did you
get your plant?
--
With Best Regards
Jim A.
Kaylene Murdoch
Jim A (Ji...@ampthill.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: We've grown one from seed, but it's a bit young still. Where did you
: get your plant?
Err, I think the name of the nursery was Hall's and it was definitely in
Norfolk and they had about 5 varieties. I got the number of the nursery
from the 1996 Plant Finder (browsable at all good bookshops!). Several
nurseries sell them - normally just one variety though. I got a self-fertile
variety: 'Unique' that was supposedly early-fruiting. It cost about 8
quid including p and p.
Kaylene
murd...@oup.co.uk
Jim A
In article <4ucrce$4...@news.ox.ac.uk>, Kaylene Murdoch
<k...@physics.ox.ac.uk> writes
Okay, got that.
Probably it's Reads Nursery, Hales Hall, Loddon. They have 5 varieties
listed and its the only nursery that does.
I must admit that I didn't think to go and look for plants. We've grown
quite a few plants from seed brought over from NZ - mostly trees - and
it becomes a habit to be self reliant.
Kaylene Murdoch
Jim A (Ji...@ampthill.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: Probably it's Reads Nursery, Hales Hall, Loddon. They have 5 varieties
: listed and its the only nursery that does.
That's the one! Telephone (01508) 548395, if anyone's interested.
Kaylene
murd...@oup.co.uk
Megan Farr
Jim A <Ji...@ampthill.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>I must admit that I didn't think to go and look for plants. We've grown
>quite a few plants from seed brought over from NZ - mostly trees - and
>it becomes a habit to be self reliant.
Jim,
can you do that here (UK). I had always thought you couldn't bring
seeds in, I guess this is based on the fact that you can't take them
into NZ. I suppose people bring plants in from Holland all the time
(sorry, the Netherlands). I couldn't even pursuade my mother to bring
Watties Pumpkin soup into the country, although she did bring Giant
Jaffas for the (English) other half! Now, anyone know how to get hold
of Pumpkin soup? I can't even buy pumpkins in Cumbria (they even use
turnips for lanterns at halloween!).
My mouth is watering, where are those Minties!
Megan Farr
Calderbridge
Cumbria
England
Jim A
In article <4ufhe6$p...@morse.ukonline.co.uk>, Megan Farr
<megan...@ukonline.co.uk> writes
Seeds aren't a problem, but by bring them into the country you undertake
by default not to bring any disease with them. So it is wise to ensure
that they are cleaned properly. Not all customs officers are aware of
the regulations though and can be awkward, but I have had no problems.
If you want further information, contact the local MAFF office (Ministry
of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food). That's what we did. It's possible
to send seed by airmail, and is quite a good method except for the very
perishable varieties.
Taking seed into NZ, Australia and USA is another matter. In NZ you
need to apply for a permit, and the types of seed are tightly
controlled. If you are in transit with seed be careful, particularly in
the USA. They won't even allow you to be in the transit lounge.
In the case of plants I am not sure what the regulations say. Haven't
really considered bringing complete plants to the UK but it does happen
so there must be a recognised procedure.
arachne
megan...@ukonline.co.uk (Megan Farr) wrote:
>can you do that here (UK). I had always thought you couldn't bring
>seeds in, I guess this is based on the fact that you can't take them
>into NZ. I suppose people bring plants in from Holland all the time
>(sorry, the Netherlands). I couldn't even pursuade my mother to bring
>Watties Pumpkin soup into the country, although she did bring Giant
>Jaffas for the (English) other half! Now, anyone know how to get hold
>of Pumpkin soup? I can't even buy pumpkins in Cumbria (they even use
>turnips for lanterns at halloween!).
Oh Megan - I feel for you. I lovce pumpkin soup and also can't get
pumpkins here except at Halloween. However, we can buy canned pumpkin
and I have to admit that using this is MUCH easier than cooking the
whole damn pumpkin and then struggling to remove the skin. Also, the
water content seems to bne about right for thingsa like soup and
pumpkin pie.
Try searching for the canned stuff.
mj
Women who strive for equality with men lack ambition.
http://www.communications.uci.edu/~inform/mj/arachne.html
Megan Farr
Jim A <Ji...@ampthill.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Seeds aren't a problem, but by bring them into the country you undertake
>by default not to bring any disease with them. So it is wise to ensure
>that they are cleaned properly. Not all customs officers are aware of
>the regulations though and can be awkward, but I have had no problems.
>If you want further information, contact the local MAFF office (Ministry
>of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food). That's what we did. It's possible
>to send seed by airmail, and is quite a good method except for the very
>perishable varieties.
Thanks for the advise. I think I will send my mother down to Palmer's
for me to get some seeds! I've just got to decide what to get.
Sending them sounds like the answer, given the problems with having
them with you in transit anywhere!
Hmm now, feijoas, what else? Any suggestions for a kiwi patio garden?
Anyone. Suggestions would be much appreciated, particularly from
southerners, them having a similar climate (sorry I'm a namby pamby
Aucklander!).
Nico Mody-Nikoloff
megan...@ukonline.co.uk (Megan Farr) wrote:
>Thanks for the advise. I think I will send my mother down to Palmer's
>for me to get some seeds! I've just got to decide what to get.
>Sending them sounds like the answer, given the problems with having
>them with you in transit anywhere!
>
>Hmm now, feijoas, what else? Any suggestions for a kiwi patio garden?
>Anyone. Suggestions would be much appreciated, particularly from
>southerners, them having a similar climate (sorry I'm a namby pamby
>Aucklander!).
>
I believe that you need male and female trees for feijoas, or so I've
heard. They don't have to be close, just in the neighbourhood.
For a patio, cordylines in terracotta pots are nice. How about tree
ferns too (they grow well in Milford)
Nico
------------------------------------------------------------
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My views are my own and not necessarily those of my employer
Megan Farr
ara...@uci.edu (arachne) wrote:
>Oh Megan - I feel for you. I lovce pumpkin soup and also can't get
>pumpkins here except at Halloween. However, we can buy canned pumpkin
>and I have to admit that using this is MUCH easier than cooking the
>whole damn pumpkin and then struggling to remove the skin. Also, the
>water content seems to bne about right for thingsa like soup and
>pumpkin pie.
>Try searching for the canned stuff.
>mj
No luck, but my parents in law are talking about buying a 'lifestyle
block' (good kiwi term!) and guess what they are going to have to
grow! Isn't it strange you can't get the canned stuff here either.
There seems to be no tradition of eating anything pumpkin in Britain,
at least not in the north! No doubt if I were in London...
Jim A
In article <4uoa4h$j...@ren.fp.co.nz>, Nico Mody-Nikoloff
<mody...@fp.co.nz> writes
Cordylines are okay, you'll find that Cordyline Indivisa is tougher.
Tree ferns probably won't put up with the Cumbrian climate - I haven't
had much luck with Silver Ferns. Dicksonia Antarctica (Aussie) is the
hardiest, but rather a slow grower. Tea Trees, Totara's and Kaihikatea's
are plenty hardy if you like trees, and what about a Kaka Beak? We've
found they are okay as long as you don't let the soil freeze over.
Nico: Co-incidentally I was visiting Fisher & Paykel in March last year,
somewhere around Ellerslie/Mt Wellington if I remember correctly. Do you
know Geoff Logan?
Nico Mody-Nikoloff
Jim A <Ji...@ampthill.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Nico: Co-incidentally I was visiting Fisher & Paykel in March last year,
>somewhere around Ellerslie/Mt Wellington if I remember correctly. Do you
>know Geoff Logan?
No I don't, sorry - Fisher & Paykel is spread over several locations in
East Tamaki and Mount Wellington. I am at East Tamaki Head Office.
And there is no Geoff Logan in the current phone list. Sorry.
Alan Brown
In article <kdpMvIAS...@ampthill.demon.co.uk>,
Jim A <Ji...@ampthill.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Cordylines are okay, you'll find that Cordyline Indivisa is tougher.
>Tree ferns probably won't put up with the Cumbrian climate - I haven't
>had much luck with Silver Ferns.
Funnily enough, there are more cultivated varieties of Cordyline australis
in the UK than there are here. Here they're cabbage trees. In the UK
they're known as the palm trees on the south coast resorts and the colour
and variegation is quite stunning.
> Dicksonia Antarctica (Aussie) is the
>hardiest, but rather a slow grower.
The NZ Dicksonias grow well as long as they're protected from frost when
they're young. I've seen them covered in snow in the kaimanawas without
too many ill effects the following summer.
AB
--
(3) With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is
not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they
are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them
as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925 - Fundamental Truths of Networking
Kaylene Murdoch
Alan Brown (al...@papaioea.manawatu.gen.nz) wrote:
: Funnily enough, there are more cultivated varieties of Cordyline australis
: in the UK than there are here.
There is an excellent clump of them right outside the Blackfriars tube in
the City of London. Of all places.
Anyone notice how on garden programs on radio and telly, Cordyline
australis is always 'from Australia'. This includes Radio 4's
'Gardener's Question Time' where there is even a spot highlighting
horticultural Latin. Sheesh.
And the entire Metrosideros genus gets referred to as the 'NZ Christmas
Tree', or occasionally just M. robusta (the northern rata) - instead of
M. excelsa (pohutakawa). We also publish a book 'Plants and their Names'
which gives the whole of the Metrosideros genus the name 'rata'. I've
been away too long - is this right? I thought there were only two ratas
- M. robusta (northern) and M. umbellata (southern). Not that I could
tell the difference between any of them if I were to stumble across a
bunch in some unlikely location outside a tube stop... ;-)
Kaylene
murd...@oup.co.uk
Alan Brown
In article <1996Aug20.153832@cantva>, <misc...@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> wrote:
>while southern is one of the heaviest woods in the world at ~1200 kg/m^3
Hmmm. A wooden boat anchor perhaps?
Michael Klose
Hello Alan
> >while southern is one of the heaviest woods in the world at ~1200 kg/m^3
>
> Hmmm. A wooden boat anchor perhaps?
Water weighs aprox. 1 kg per liter, one liter being (0.1 m)^3 = 0.001 m^3,
which means one cubic meter of water weighing 1000 kg, or as a density:
1000 kg/m^3.
So 1200 kg/m^3 isn't really that heavy (it is for wood though!)