CCS modem service interruption Wed. May 1 12:15 - 12:30 p.m..
Colin McFadyen
On Wednesday May 1 1996, the CCS Annex terminal servers will be unavailable
from 12:15 - 12:30 p.m. During this time, the terminal servers will upgraded
to the latest software revision.
The dial-up modems in all CCS modem pools (520-1000, 520-4411, 520-1010
and 520-7840) will be unavailble during this upgrade.
--
Colin McFadyen - Systems Support - col...@ccs.carleton.ca
Carleton University Computing and Communications Services
Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1S 5B6
Dave O'Neill
Paul Derbyshire (pder...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
> Colin McFadyen (col...@superior.carleton.ca) wrote:
> > On Wednesday May 1 1996, the CCS Annex terminal servers will be unavailable
> > from 12:15 - 12:30 p.m. During this time, the terminal servers will upgraded
> But 520-3900 will be?
It's only 15 minutes -- live with it. Go eat lunch or something.
DaveO (And here I though the collective IQ of c.g would go up when summer
started...)
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Paul Derbyshire
Colin McFadyen (col...@superior.carleton.ca) wrote:
> On Wednesday May 1 1996, the CCS Annex terminal servers will be unavailable
> from 12:15 - 12:30 p.m. During this time, the terminal servers will upgraded
> The dial-up modems in all CCS modem pools (520-1000, 520-4411, 520-1010
> and 520-7840) will be unavailble during this upgrade.
But 520-3900 will be?
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Jessica Cohen
Paul Derbyshire (pder...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
> Colin McFadyen (col...@superior.carleton.ca) wrote:
> > On Wednesday May 1 1996, the CCS Annex terminal servers will be unavailable
> > from 12:15 - 12:30 p.m. During this time, the terminal servers will upgraded
> > to the latest software revision.
> > The dial-up modems in all CCS modem pools (520-1000, 520-4411, 520-1010
> > and 520-7840) will be unavailble during this upgrade.
> But 520-3900 will be?
520-3900 is not available during the time period of the upgrade
in the first place, so no.
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Aaron Merifield
Paul Derbyshire (pder...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
> Colin McFadyen (col...@superior.carleton.ca) wrote:
> > from 12:15 - 12:30 p.m.
> But 520-3900 will be?
Umm.. Paul, this is a big wopping 15 minutes! Just about enough time to
take your fingers of the keyboard, take a breath, shake your hands out so
you dont get tennis elbow and then log in again.. think of it as a
comercial.. take a washroom break..
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Colin McFadyen
>Colin McFadyen (col...@superior.carleton.ca) wrote:
>> On Wednesday May 1 1996, the CCS Annex terminal servers will be unavailable
>> from 12:15 - 12:30 p.m. During this time, the terminal servers will upgraded
>> to the latest software revision.
>> The dial-up modems in all CCS modem pools (520-1000, 520-4411, 520-1010
>> and 520-7840) will be unavailble during this upgrade.
>But 520-3900 will be?
520-3900 is available only between 17:00 - 08:00 on weekdays.
alex chesser
Dave O'Neill (dmon...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
> It's only 15 minutes -- live with it. Go eat lunch or something.
> DaveO (And here I though the collective IQ of c.g would go up when summer
> started...)
a) i think you mean AVERAGE IQ ... collective IQ with hundreds fewer
people will go nowhere BUT down unless there's someone with an IQ
of 38,000 who joins just for the summer months...
b) how could it possibly go up with your negative score still bringing
us down?
c) summer is the WICKEDZ!
d) nuff said :)
Paul Derbyshire
Aaron Merifield (amer...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
> Paul Derbyshire (pder...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
> > Colin McFadyen (col...@superior.carleton.ca) wrote:
> > > from 12:15 - 12:30 p.m.
> > But 520-3900 will be?
> Umm.. Paul, this is a big wopping 15 minutes! Just about enough time to
> take your fingers of the keyboard, take a breath, shake your hands out so
> you dont get tennis elbow and then log in again.. think of it as a
> comercial.. take a washroom break..
I wasn't complaining, I was trying to clear up an ambiguous matter. He
stated that "all the modems would be down" and then he contradicted it by
enumerating all of the modems that would be down omitting 520-3900,
implying that that number would be available. Obviously he simply made a
mistake, and the matter is now cleared up, and all of you flamebrains can
go on to other threads.
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Paul Derbyshire
> >But 520-3900 will be?
> 520-3900 is available only between 17:00 - 08:00 on weekdays.
It's not available during school hours. School is finished as of sometime
around now. (I'm not sure exactly). The concern about modem traffic on
3900 when the staff and them are trying to get in on these lines only applies
during the academic term. (Of course this doesn't mean that some person
that isn't firing with all the ion engines might not have kept
the restriction into times when it does not apply; witness the CHAT time
limit applying in the wee hours and, in weakened form, in the summer, and
witness the freenet 1 hour time limit applying in the wee hours even
though they understood the uselessness of time limits at those hours when
they set up their 2-hour limit...)
Jessica Cohen
Paul Derbyshire (pder...@chat.carleton.ca) was heard to write:
> Colin McFayden (col...@ccs.carleton.ca) wrote:
> > 520-3900 is available only between 17:00 - 08:00 on weekdays.
> It's not available during school hours. School is finished as of sometime
> around now. (I'm not sure exactly). The concern about modem traffic on
> 3900 when the staff and them are trying to get in on these lines only applies
> during the academic term. (Of course this doesn't mean that some person
Actually this is completely wrong.
The reason that the 3900 line isn't available during the day is because
it's used by Administration as normal voice phones during the day.
After 17:00 all these offices are closed, and the lines are made available
to modem users.
Since all these offices are open during the summer , then obviously the lines
cannot be available during the weekday.
Colin McFadyen
>Aaron Merifield (amer...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
>> Paul Derbyshire (pder...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
>> > Colin McFadyen (col...@superior.carleton.ca) wrote:
>> > > from 12:15 - 12:30 p.m.
>> > But 520-3900 will be?
>> Umm.. Paul, this is a big wopping 15 minutes! Just about enough time to
>> take your fingers of the keyboard, take a breath, shake your hands out so
>> you dont get tennis elbow and then log in again.. think of it as a
>> comercial.. take a washroom break..
>I wasn't complaining, I was trying to clear up an ambiguous matter. He
>stated that "all the modems would be down" and then he contradicted it by
>enumerating all of the modems that would be down omitting 520-3900,
>implying that that number would be available. Obviously he simply made a
>mistake, and the matter is now cleared up, and all of you flamebrains can
>go on to other threads.
I did not make a mistake. The operation of the 520-3900 modem pool was not
going to be affected by the downtime so I did not include it in the list.
Had I included it, I am sure that someone would have pointed out that 520-3900
is not available during that time.
Paul Derbyshire
Jessica Cohen (jco...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
> Since all these offices are open during the summer , then obviously the lines
> cannot be available during the weekday.
Why the hell would they be open all summer? :\ This has some guy paying
another guy to sit in stultifying boredom behind a desk for four months...
Paul Derbyshire
Colin McFadyen (col...@max.carleton.ca) wrote:
> I did not make a mistake. The operation of the 520-3900 modem pool was not
> going to be affected by the downtime so I did not include it in the list.
> Had I included it, I am sure that someone would have pointed out that 520-3900
> is not available during that time.
HUH? You did it again! You say the operation of the 520-3900 modem pool
was not going to be affected, and then you say it wasn't available... and
the other guy said it wasn't available... Oh blinker me peepers !
If it wasn't available it was affected... if it was available it wasn't
affected...?
Andy Mason
Fuck you are dumb Paul. Really quite impressively clueless.
Colin said: the 3900 modems WERE NOT AFFECTED because they are NEVER
available during those times.
It would have been redudant (funny that that word should appear anywhere
near your name...) to say they were going to be unavailable.
How fucking difficult is that?
Andy.
PS. The 3900 modems are not available during they day.
PPS. Ever.
Paul Derbyshire (pder...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
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Colin McFadyen
>Colin McFadyen (col...@max.carleton.ca) wrote:
>> I did not make a mistake. The operation of the 520-3900 modem pool was not
>> going to be affected by the downtime so I did not include it in the list.
>> Had I included it, I am sure that someone would have pointed out that 520-3900
>> is not available during that time.
>HUH? You did it again! You say the operation of the 520-3900 modem pool
>was not going to be affected, and then you say it wasn't available... and
>the other guy said it wasn't available... Oh blinker me peepers !
>If it wasn't available it was affected... if it was available it wasn't
>affected...?
520-3900 wasn't available so it wasn't affected. Yes, it was down, but it
did not affect any users. Since no users were affected, it doesn't really
matter that 3900 was affected even though it really is not available. When
3900 is available, I try to make sure that it is not affected. If ever 3900
is going to be affected when it is supposed to be available, I'll be sure to
post an informative message.
The point is that 520-3900 is NEVER available during the day. Since nobody
would be using 3900 during the scheduled downtime, it really was not necessary
(IMO) to include 3900 in the original announcement.
Jessica Cohen
> > Since all these offices are open during the summer , then obviously the lines
> > cannot be available during the weekday.
> Why the hell would they be open all summer? :\ This has some guy paying
> another guy to sit in stultifying boredom behind a desk for four months...
1) There are summer courses for undergrads.
2) Grad students are generally here in the summer.
3) Preparations by various departments for the next regular year
is done in summer.
And I am sure I am missing quite alot of other reasons why in this
list.
Universities are year-round institutions, behind the scenes.
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Andrew Ross
>
> HUH? You did it again! You say the operation of the 520-3900 modem pool
> was not going to be affected, and then you say it wasn't available... and
> the other guy said it wasn't available... Oh blinker me peepers !
> If it wasn't available it was affected... if it was available it wasn't
> affected...?
Paul, plain and simple => SHUT UP!
its a simple issue and you have succeded in flogging it to death.
a lapse in service in the afternoon CANNOT affect a 5pm-9am modem pool...
The End.
thank you
Erdem Onder
> > Since all these offices are open during the summer , then obviously the lines
> > cannot be available during the weekday.
> Why the hell would they be open all summer? :\ This has some guy paying
> another guy to sit in stultifying boredom behind a desk for four months...
Hmmm are you THIS stupid?! Admins busiest tiem is during summer
for registration, plus many peoeple (myself included) take summer courses
and may want to reach profs, goddamit get a life!
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Paul Derbyshire
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> F**k you are dumb Paul...
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If you have to waste your time and others' with petty flaming...
...at least be original!
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Paul Derbyshire (pder...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
> Brian Ross (br...@engsoc.carleton.ca) wrote:
> > Dear:
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> [etc]
> If you have to waste your time and others' with petty flaming...
> ...at least be original!
> ;-P
You means yours was original? Why don't you just admit that you were WRONG?
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>
> If you have to waste your time and others' with petty flaming...
>
> ...at least be original!
or a FREAK right PAUL?
thought so...
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> help is available, call 1-800-382-5968 now!
What is the number for? :)
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> What is the number for? :)
For help, apparently... :)
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Paul Derbyshire (pder...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
> Aaron Merifield (amer...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
> > Paul Derbyshire (pder...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
> > > > from 12:15 - 12:30 p.m.
> > > But 520-3900 will be?
> > Umm.. Paul, this is a big wopping 15 minutes! Just about enough time to
> > take your fingers of the keyboard, take a breath, shake your hands out so
> > you dont get tennis elbow and then log in again.. think of it as a
> > comercial.. take a washroom break..
> I wasn't complaining, I was trying to clear up an ambiguous matter. He
> stated that "all the modems would be down" and then he contradicted it by
> enumerating all of the modems that would be down omitting 520-3900,
> implying that that number would be available. Obviously he simply made a
> mistake, and the matter is now cleared up, and all of you flamebrains can
> go on to other threads.
> \ '
> Flamebrain (n.) A person whose entire existence is dedicated to reading a
> newsgroup extremely carefully looking for the slightest thing
> that does not get the Super-Duper Seal of Approval (q.v.); in
> order that they may use a flamethrower, nuclear bomb, or other
> mechanism to flame the hapless poster of the
> slightly-less-than-perfect (or maybe just
> opposed-to-his-opinion, or posted by a person they
> irrationally dislike) post. Flamebrains are advised to go
> find a moderated group where all the posts will meet the
> grade.
You are not a human mop.
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K.M. Mennie
In article <4mo2h0$e...@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>,
Chris Belway <cbe...@chat.carleton.ca> wrote:
:You are not a human mop.
Now that Chris Belway, provider of kook phrases in his own right, has used
this, I expect it can be unceremoniously retired as a done, done, done bit
of wit.
Vernon Nielsen
: > Why the hell would they be open all summer? :\ This has some guy paying
: > another guy to sit in stultifying boredom behind a desk for four months...
: Hmmm are you THIS stupid?! Admins busiest tiem is during summer
: for registration, plus many peoeple (myself included) take summer courses
: and may want to reach profs, goddamit get a life!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hmmmmm..... could this be a case of the pot calling the kettle black?
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Erdem Onder
Paul Derbyshire (pder...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
> If you have to waste your time and others' with petty flaming...
> ...at least be original!
Ahh and you would be one to talk becauuuuse
[X] your so called original work has been around for a year now