CHAT Account Expiry Date.
Steven Meece
Roger Chang (rch...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
> Have you considered charging $ and becoming an ISP for Carleton Alumni?
This isn't the first time that has been brought up. I think that it would
be a fantastic idea; it would provide a needed service and would be a
useful outreach to the carleton alumni community.
It's too much for the alumni association to handle, or so say the majority
of replies. It would involve an added pressure on CCS, a fund transfer
from the alumni association to them, tech support, extra lines and
hardware, etc etc. The alumni association is pretty much a volunteer
effort, and being an ISP is a little too labour intensive.
"Just use & support Freenet"
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Steven Meece
http://chat.carleton.ca/~smeece
"A police baton across the skull is the clearest example of 'government
interference with the individual' that I can imagine."
-- from ont.general
Charlie Younghusband
: Roger Chang (rch...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
: > Have you considered charging $ and becoming an ISP for Carleton Alumni?
: This isn't the first time that has been brought up. I think that it would
: be a fantastic idea; it would provide a needed service and would be a
: useful outreach to the carleton alumni community.
Rather, I would suggest a computer to host a 'permanent' email address,
from which you can control to where it is forwarded. No account, just
mail forwarding. In the current Internet environment, it is quite likely
that most people will have to change their email several times which is a
pain. In a sense, freenet already can do this for you, but something
that is clearly an @alumni.carleton.ca or whatever would be better. Such
a machine would really only require effective management in order to be
cost effective; a P90 with some decent ram and and a gig hard drive could
probably handle it for some time.
: It's too much for the alumni association to handle, or so say the majority
: of replies. It would involve an added pressure on CCS, a fund transfer
: from the alumni association to them, tech support, extra lines and
: hardware, etc etc. The alumni association is pretty much a volunteer
: effort, and being an ISP is a little too labour intensive.
Seems to me the relative costs for such as system are pretty low. Just
time to administer it, and if set up properly, could require minimal
level of understanding to run it.
Charlie Younghusband
Andy Mason
: Rather, I would suggest a computer to host a 'permanent' email address,
: from which you can control to where it is forwarded. No account, just
: mail forwarding. In the current Internet environment, it is quite likely
: that most people will have to change their email several times which is a
: pain. In a sense, freenet already can do this for you, but something
: that is clearly an @alumni.carleton.ca or whatever would be better. Such
Such a thing already exists: pobox.com
Same idea, but a much larger scale (everyone in the world).
I suppose that with services like four11 it isn't really necessary, but
it would be nice.
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Charlie Younghusband
Andy Mason (ama...@lager.engsoc.carleton.ca) wrote:
: Charlie Younghusband (cha...@lager.engsoc.carleton.ca) wrote:
: : Rather, I would suggest a computer to host a 'permanent' email address,
: : from which you can control to where it is forwarded. No account, just
: : mail forwarding. In the current Internet environment, it is quite likely
: : that most people will have to change their email several times which is a
: : pain. In a sense, freenet already can do this for you, but something
: : that is clearly an @alumni.carleton.ca or whatever would be better. Such
: Such a thing already exists: pobox.com
: Same idea, but a much larger scale (everyone in the world).
: I suppose that with services like four11 it isn't really necessary, but
: it would be nice.
Well, if you're happy about paying something like $15 a year to pobox for
such a service, go right ahead.
(also, I would suggest that a Carleton email should be more stable than
an Internet-related company right now)
Yes, things can still be done with four11, but it will always be a bit of
a pain in the butt. I'm guessing that there are more than 5 Andrew
Masons on the net...chat users already have a hard time getting mail to
jdoe@chat that was intended for jdoe2@chat...
Charlie
Charlie Younghusband
Mike Shaver (sha...@neon.ingenia.com) wrote:
: Charlie Younghusband (cha...@lager.engsoc.carleton.ca) wrote:
: Really?
: Carleton's got some pretty overworked administrators, and maintaining
: a large database of aliases and mail forwarding information is
: non-trivial.
: Just ask Brad Knowles.
Ahh...sorry, was thinking of at the time of the idea of it being another
engsoc implementation (as I was discussing with Alex Devries through email)
rather than a CCS. (it also isn't a very confident 'should' as long as
Mike Harris is still in)
Yes, I would agree that maintaining a complete Carleton one would would
be non-trivial; Carleton probably has a yearly student turnaround rate of
say, 8000? Engineering can't be greater than 450...Definetely a big
difference in a few years time...(also, like having to apply for a chat
account, I don't think that a permanent email should be kept by default)
However, the added impletementation cost could well be worth it in terms
of improved alumni support in the future.
Brad Knowles? (after not-recognizing that name, I will admit to briefly
searching the name -for a bart calling the bar in the simpsons- (eg Amanda
Huginkiss) type thing. Didn't find one.
Charlie
Andy Mason
Charlie Younghusband (cha...@lager.engsoc.carleton.ca) wrote:
: Well, if you're happy about paying something like $15 a year to pobox for
: such a service, go right ahead.
: (also, I would suggest that a Carleton email should be more stable than
: an Internet-related company right now)
I guess it depends on what kind of time you're talking about. I suspect
that neither are going to be > 20 yr solutions. I guess people are going
to have to figure something out, like we all have for phone numbers
(without getting into portability, etc).
: Yes, things can still be done with four11, but it will always be a bit of
: a pain in the butt. I'm guessing that there are more than 5 Andrew
: Masons on the net...chat users already have a hard time getting mail to
: jdoe@chat that was intended for jdoe2@chat...
It's significantly easier for the people who would have to implement it.
Just let people know that such a thing exists.
Don't know about Andrew Masons, but there are 7 Andys, and I'm 4 of them.
And since we've stopped using chat, they've implemented a user search
feature, so it shouldn't be too hard anymore.